Should I be watering to runoff?

GardenWeasel77

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Everything I use is
FFOF
Compost (Malibu)
Worm castings
Dr earth all purpose 4-4-4
Dr earth flower girl 3-9-4
Generic perlite
Clover seeds as a top soil cover
Pure epsom salt as a foliar spray.
Thank you.
And you top dress as needed?

I have a similar regiment minus the Epsom salt and compost. But my girls look like crap... Not sure what I have been doing wrong.
 

Raspberrykiwi

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Thank you.
And you top dress as needed?

I have a similar regiment minus the Epsom salt and compost. But my girls look like crap... Not sure what I have been doing wrong.
Well I don’t too dress. At first I plant my seed in just a solo cup of only FFOF. After that I transplant to 3 gallons with some 4-4-4 and everything else. After a month or 2 I transplant to 15g and flip to flower. In the 15g I put a small amount of 4-4-4 and I feed 3-9-4 once the buds have formed. The water with ONLY RO water. I don’t ph. I will give a compost tea here and there if I feel the plant can use it. Also get a bottle of fish and kelp fert. I add a small amount to my water just to add microbes to the soil. You want to keep your bacteria healthy. Healthy bacteria will give you healthy plants.
 

Raspberrykiwi

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Your plants don’t eat the nutrients as they are. The bacteria in your soil breaks it down to mineral for. Google cationic exchange to better understand how your plant uses the food.
 

GardenWeasel77

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Your plants don’t eat the nutrients as they are. The bacteria in your soil breaks it down to mineral for. Google cationic exchange to better understand how your plant uses the food.
Hmm.. Thanks for the good tips. I did what drsaltzman suggested and bout some liquid fert. One of my plants looks like its dying. Not how I envisioned this grow would go but such is life.

I have plenty of downtoearth for my next grow and hopefully with your pointers I wont be running into the same issues I did this time.
 

getogrow

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Its definitely an ingredient needed to grow organically. Not the main ingredient though. :bigjoint:
When i think of organic , i automatically think of organic food so in my opinion Its the main ingredient as it has all the food in it. In this case i call the EWC and the compost the main ingredients. Of course you cannot grow in containers with only compost or EWC but i still think of it as the main source of food in the mix. i guess is what im trying to say....:eyesmoke:
 

Raspberrykiwi

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When i think of organic , i automatically think of organic food so in my opinion Its the main ingredient as it has all the food in it. In this case i call the EWC and the compost the main ingredients. Of course you cannot grow in containers with only compost or EWC but i still think of it as the main source of food in the mix. i guess is what im trying to say....:eyesmoke:
Well yeah. Organics is based on the amount of organic matter in the soil. The more, the better. You can get away with soil, compost and worm castings from seed to harvest. But if you start removing compost and worm castings and just use soil, you’ll run into issues with only soil and dry amendments. I used dry amendments only my first try, cooked my plants in 2 weeks. I tried to add more amendments thinking maybe they’re deficient. They died within a couple days.
 

Hollatchaboy

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When i think of organic , i automatically think of organic food so in my opinion Its the main ingredient as it has all the food in it. In this case i call the EWC and the compost the main ingredients. Of course you cannot grow in containers with only compost or EWC but i still think of it as the main source of food in the mix. i guess is what im trying to say....:eyesmoke:
Yea I know what you was getting at. Lol... and I kinda view it the same way. :bigjoint:
 

Hollatchaboy

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Well yeah. Organics is based on the amount of organic matter in the soil. The more, the better. You can get away with soil, compost and worm castings from seed to harvest. But if you start removing compost and worm castings and just use soil, you’ll run into issues with only soil and dry amendments. I used dry amendments only my first try, cooked my plants in 2 weeks. I tried to add more amendments thinking maybe they’re deficient. They died within a couple days.
Ahhh.... the struggle of living and learning. I wanted to cry when my first plants died. Lol.... it's funny to me that when I first started I though to myself "it's just growing a plant. Water, light, dirt, how hard can it be? ". Man if I only knew. :bigjoint::wall:
 
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