Dwc requiring less nutes

Wastei

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BioAg Cyto Plus is a pretty good 3 part mix if you want to try it. kelp, fulvic, micros.
You need something like this for kelp to work in the nutrient solution. Regular kelp extract is way to dirty, same goes for Humic IMO. You yanks got access to all the nice fancy stuff. You won't find BioAg anywhere in the EU.

I always used regular kelp extract as foliar, it's more effective that way. You can actually see respons in 24h with more shoots forming by axillary dominance.

But if you're away for two weeks at a time like @rkymtnman this won't work as good. BioAg to the rescue! Cheers!
 

George2324

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You need something like this for kelp to work in the nutrient solution. Regular kelp extract is way to dirty, same goes for Humic IMO. You yanks got access to all the nice fancy stuff. You won't find BioAg anywhere in the EU.

I always used regular kelp extract as foliar, it's more effective that way. You can actually see respons in 24h with more shoots forming by axillary dominance.

But if you're away for two weeks at a time like @rkymtnman this won't work as good. BioAg to the rescue! Cheers!
Yeah im in Europe I’m going to give the mills nutrients a try. Very similar in fact they contain fulvic humics kelp etc.

I mainly like the fact that the bulk of the nitrogen is in a separate bottle so I can reduce the nitro.
 

Wastei

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Yeah im in Europe I’m going to give the mills nutrients a try. Very similar in fact they contain fulvic humics kelp etc.

I mainly like the fact that the bulk of the nitrogen is in a separate bottle so I can reduce the nitro.
Good stuff! Haven't heard about Mills before. I'm always interested in checking out new stuff, thanks mate!
 

George2324

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Good stuff! Haven't heard about Mills before. I'm always interested in checking out new stuff, thanks mate!
Quite expensive but does seem to have lots of good stuff.

me personally I’ve always gotten nitrogen tox then deficiencies from other nutes due to too high nitrogen %in the bottle. Having control over the nitrogen looks really useful
 

rkymtnman

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Quite expensive but does seem to have lots of good stuff.

me personally I’ve always gotten nitrogen tox then deficiencies from other nutes due to too high nitrogen %in the bottle. Having control over the nitrogen looks really useful
for you guys across the pond, cna you get GHE floranova bloom (1 part bottle). it has humic in it.
 

George2324

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yikes. cancel that suggestion. i've always heard Mills are super expensive.
Yeah they are just bought 20l a-b 5l c4 5l ultimate pk 1l vitalise 10l of sumo boost and 5l of evoponic steroids to try on my next batch.
Cost me 1350 euros and if I replace my nute tank every week and if I use 50% of the advertised dosage I’d use the lot in 1 grow.

but each grow here in Europe I turnover around. 20,000 euros so it’s not too bad.
Just on my mission to ever improve my quality
 

rkymtnman

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Yeah they are just bought 20l a-b 5l c4 5l ultimate pk 1l vitalise 10l of sumo boost and 5l of evoponic steroids to try on my next batch.
Cost me 1350 euros and if I replace my nute tank every week and if I use 50% of the advertised dosage I’d use the lot in 1 grow.

but each grow here in Europe I turnover around. 20,000 euros so it’s not too bad.
Just on my mission to ever improve my quality
i would look into dry salts then if you use that much.
 

George2324

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i would look into dry salts then if you use that much.
ive used megacrop but the issue of high N came up. I know they have a split version but not available in Europe yet.
I like the simplicity of mixed nutrients rather than me having to buy several bags of dry nutrients individually
 

rkymtnman

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ive used megacrop but the issue of high N came up. I know they have a split version but not available in Europe yet.
I like the simplicity of mixed nutrients rather than me having to buy several bags of dry nutrients individually
gotcha. i recently started using Jack's RO formula 1 part dry. they make a Tap formula too. i love it. i'm a big fan (now) of a 3-1-4 ratio start to finish. no N tox issues.
 

George2324

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gotcha. i recently started using Jack's RO formula 1 part dry. they make a Tap formula too. i love it. i'm a big fan (now) of a 3-1-4 ratio start to finish. no N tox issues.
Yeah jacks was my first choice before megacrop... couldn’t get that here either.

I’m hoping this mills sorts out my nutrient issues then I won’t care about the cost as it will be worth every penny
 

Wastei

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Yeah jacks was my first choice before megacrop... couldn’t get that here either.

I’m hoping this mills sorts out my nutrient issues then I won’t care about the cost as it will be worth every penny
I don't think it's necessary a N toxicity issue from the plant food containing to much nitrogen. I mean many people run MegaCrop from start to finish in containers with amazing results. I think you just have to feed less.

I've practically seen people with N tox running Canna, GH, Dyna Gro and Jacks/MegaCrop. Are they all running to high nitrogen in the plant food? I don't think so.

Don't follow what's written on the bag, every single feeding chart, manufacturers recommendations are always way to hot. N toxicity should not be a problem in containers. Cheers!
 

George2324

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I don't think it's necessary a N toxicity issue from the plant food containing to much nitrogen. I mean many people run MegaCrop from start to finish in containers with amazing results. I think you just have to feed less.

I've practically seen people with N tox running Canna, GH, Dyna Gro and Jacks/MegaCrop. Are they all running to high nitrogen in the plant food? I don't think so.

Don't follow what's written on the bag, every single feeding chart, manufacturers recommendations are always way to hot. N toxicity should not be a problem in containers. Cheers!
i thought that too but if I run low enough to not get n tox I just get other deficiencies.
PK deficiencies in flower I guess I could use a PK boost but I’d rather just go with a line that’s setup that way.

not going to trust a product that claims to be stand Alone that I then have to use other products with .

will see how this mills turns out though.
 
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