I Agree With The Republicans

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schuylaar

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xtsho said:
Do you think that a teeneager working part time at McDonalds taking orders at the drive-thru should be getting paid $15 an hour?

I worked for minimum wage and when that wasn't enough I took another job. Sometimes I had three jobs. I did what it took. Too many people today are just plain lazy. They work some simple job that requires no skills, they go home early if they can soon they can watch some stupid reality crap like Honey Boo Boo. There is plenty of opportunity in America. There are plenty of jobs. If someone is too lazy to work harder or can't get a better job because they can't stop smoking weed long enough to pass a drug test then that's their problem.

All through the pandemic Amazon has been hiring in Portland. Those jobs already start out at $15 an hour and they can't fill them. There are people complaining about being months behind in their rent even though with the combined state and federal unemployment they were receiving they actually had more money than when they were working. As soon as they found out there was a moratorium on evictions they stopped paying rent and started blowing their money on junk. Some people could be paid three times what they already make and they would still be poor because they blow their money as soon as they get it on all kinds of frivolous items.

The minimum wage should not be based on the cost of living. There are jobs that should not be considered living wage jobs.
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how old were you when you had three jobs? were you married? any children?
 
xtsho

xtsho

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rollitup said:
and evidently never took an Economics class! :roll:



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Oh I did. But I found that in the real world the key to making money and keeping it is to get skills that are in demand, spend your money wisely, and save all that you can.

I do believe that many jobs should pay more. I disagree that just raising the minimum wage for all jobs in not the right thing to do. Fast food, the guy on the landscape crew running a leaf blower, the kid working at the farm supply store on the weekend. Those are not $15 an hour jobs.

I have a friend that can barely read and write that learned a skill as a bricklayer years ago. It's hard backbreaking work but he's doing great. He worked his ass off, didn't go to college, but now owns a home, has a couple cars, money in the bank, and does every side job that comes his way. People that are willing to learn and work can prosper.
 
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schuylaar

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xtsho said:
Do you think that a teeneager working part time at McDonalds taking orders at the drive-thru should be getting paid $15 an hour?

I worked for minimum wage and when that wasn't enough I took another job. Sometimes I had three jobs. I did what it took. Too many people today are just plain lazy. They work some simple job that requires no skills, they go home early if they can soon they can watch some stupid reality crap like Honey Boo Boo. There is plenty of opportunity in America. There are plenty of jobs. If someone is too lazy to work harder or can't get a better job because they can't stop smoking weed long enough to pass a drug test then that's their problem.

All through the pandemic Amazon has been hiring in Portland. Those jobs already start out at $15 an hour and they can't fill them. There are people complaining about being months behind in their rent even though with the combined state and federal unemployment they were receiving they actually had more money than when they were working. As soon as they found out there was a moratorium on evictions they stopped paying rent and started blowing their money on junk. Some people could be paid three times what they already make and they would still be poor because they blow their money as soon as they get it on all kinds of frivolous items.

The minimum wage should not be based on the cost of living. There are jobs that should not be considered living wage jobs.
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Amazon Alabama is trying to unionize seems they're pissed about losing fingers, arms and legs from the machinery all for $15- a bargain.

www.cnbc.com

Democratic lawmakers show solidarity for Amazon union vote in Alabama: 'We stand with you'

A group of Democratic congresspeople traveled to an Amazon warehouse in Alabama where a historic union election is currently underway.
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“I want Amazon workers across the country to pay attention because you should be doing the same thing in your workplace,” Bowman said Friday at a press briefing outside of RWDSU Mid-South Council’s union hall in Birmingham, Alabama. “And we’re not stopping with Amazon. This is Lyft, this is Uber, this is Walmart, this is Tesla — all the companies across this country that continue to be abusive and provide terrible work conditions for workers, we stand with you.”

Something else you 'should be doing the same thing in your workplace'

you can become part of Amazon Nomad 'CamperForce'..for those with no home you still get a job- so kind..just thinking right out of the box.

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so fvcked up they're making a movie called 'Nomadland'..this is the begining of Book of Eli days.

www.cnbc.com

'Nomadland' spotlights Amazon's RV workforce — here's what it's really like

CamperForce, launched in 2008, is a small sector of Amazon's warehouse workforce, tapping into a sizable community of RVers and van-dwellers for seasonal work.
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so your camper gets about 2 miles to the gallon and they want you to what..? :shock:
 
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CunningCanuk

CunningCanuk

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xtsho said:
Oh I did. But I found that in the real world the key to making money and keeping it is to get skills that are in demand, spend your money wisely, and save all that you can.

I do believe that many jobs should pay more. I disagree that just raising the minimum wage for all jobs in not the right thing to do. Fast food, the guy on the landscape crew running a leaf blower, the kid working at the farm supply store on the weekend. Those are not $15 an hour jobs.
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Who the fuck are you to say $15 an hour is too much?

Tell that to the single mother trying to feed her kids asshole.
 
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schuylaar

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injinji said:
A goodly amount of my neighbors are not just GOP, but Trumpkins. RIU is the only place I can truthfully talk politics without real world repercussions. Like if I were to tell the guy from the county who comes around and sprays for skeeters what I really thought of his views, I would be over run with skeeters.
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lack of tolerance..so who's the intolerant one? the one who refuses to listen? this will never be over and your example is why. what is to become of us?
 
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schuylaar

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xtsho said:
Oh I did. But I found that in the real world the key to making money and keeping it is to get skills that are in demand, spend your money wisely, and save all that you can.

I do believe that many jobs should pay more. I disagree that just raising the minimum wage for all jobs in not the right thing to do. Fast food, the guy on the landscape crew running a leaf blower, the kid working at the farm supply store on the weekend. Those are not $15 an hour jobs.

I have a friend that can barely read and write that learned a skill as a bricklayer years ago. It's hard backbreaking work but he's doing great. He worked his ass off, didn't go to college, but now owns a home, has a couple cars, money in the bank, and does every side job that comes his way. People that are willing to learn and work can prosper.
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there is a Federal Minimum Wage because of people that think like you..that's how we came up with the agreement.

when your friend is dead at 65 and has to have both knees replaced or his lower back..hips? he'll make certain to wait until he's on the government dole of Medicare for those surgeries..guess how much they'll be?..guess? That We The People have to foot this bill with his paid for house, cars and cash in the bank.
 
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PadawanWarrior

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xtsho said:
Yes says me. I worked fast food jobs when I was in High School. It's not a $15 an hour job. If people want to make more than some teeneager then they need to get some job skills. Even back then I was able to move up into management and was an Assistant Manager at a Burger King when I was 18. All the lazy employees with no motivation were jealous. Making comments like X has been here longer and should have gotten the promotion. Well X was a lazy ass with no desire to taker on any additional responsibility so X continued to work the fry station while I sat in the back office counting the tills and interviewing prospective new employee's.

There is a culture of lazy in America. People that lack the desire to improve themselves and their financial conditions should not just be given a big payday for doing the bare minimum and taking the easiest jobs with no responsibility. I've worked my ass off all my life. I worked for minimum wage at low skill jobs. I wanted morte so I did something about it and improved my job skills. If others don't have the motivation to get shit done and improve their lives that's their problem. But forcing employers to pay a minimum wage of $15 an hour for jobs that require no skill and a blind monkey could do is just ridiculous.




No assumptions. Just a lifetime of observations. $15 an hour minimum wage is just plain stupid and would do more harm to the economy than good. That added cost would be passed onto the consumer or many businesses would close their doors. Some businesses are operating on extremely low profits. Raising the minimum wage would wipe them out. FACTS not assumptions.




I don't believe in trickle down. But I also don't think that a $15 an hour minimum wage is appropriate. Industries that require skilled labor already pay more than that. Those that don't require skilled labor like fast food, landscaping, and others should not be forced to raise their base pay to $15 an hour.
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Exactly. I think the federal minimum wage should go up a little, but $15 is ridiculous. It should be handled by the states.

$15 in New York isn't shit, but $15 an hour in somewhere like South Dakota is a lot. It should be based on the cost of living.

I'm getting tired of all the handouts.
 
injinji

injinji

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Here in Florida the voters voted for 15 bucks an hour. The fine print tells you it starts at $10 in September of 2021 and goes up a dollar every year after that. (I think it's $8.65 now)

Where I'm at the cost of living is low, as is wages. Living in Tampa or Miami could easily cost two to three times what it does here.
 
topcat

topcat

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xtsho said:
Oh I did. But I found that in the real world the key to making money and keeping it is to get skills that are in demand, spend your money wisely, and save all that you can.

I do believe that many jobs should pay more. I disagree that just raising the minimum wage for all jobs in not the right thing to do. Fast food, the guy on the landscape crew running a leaf blower, the kid working at the farm supply store on the weekend. Those are not $15 an hour jobs.

I have a friend that can barely read and write that learned a skill as a bricklayer years ago. It's hard backbreaking work but he's doing great. He worked his ass off, didn't go to college, but now owns a home, has a couple cars, money in the bank, and does every side job that comes his way. People that are willing to learn and work can prosper.
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I have a friend that says "Paris isn't Paris". I call him "Jim".
 
hanimmal

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The 'I had it rough, so noonday else should be able to have it easy' mindset it lacking. Especially when it gets added to a bit of 'kids these days'.


If this pandemic has proven anything it is that front line jobs are real jobs and should get hazard pay for dealing with the disgusting public that too many can't be bothered to wear a stupid mask to stop the spreading of a deadly virus.

It is time to inflate our economy from the bottom up, and not just the top down.
 
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