Exceedingly leafy plant any thoughts?

[Fordprefect42]

I’ve got a few grows under my belt now, at least enough that I have a general sense of what I’m doing, but haven’t seen this yet.

These buds are overwhelmingly leafy on this plant. For people who have been doing this longer, I wonder if someone could give me a take on whether there is likely to be some decent bud under that mess or am I going to trim away and find underneath all of that leaf the mystery surprise is a stem?

 

[Rurumo]

No worries, sometimes you just run across an especially leafy bud, I think it's more strain specific because I tend to grow a bunch of different strains at once, and when I see this, it's usually one plant, not all of them. Just more photosynthesis action to power the bud growth! Some plants are more desirable simply because of their calyx to leaf ratio.

 

[Fordprefect42]

No worries, sometimes you just run across an especially leafy bud, I think it's more strain specific because I tend to grow a bunch of different strains at once, and when I see this, it's usually one plant, not all of them. Just more photosynthesis action to power the bud growth! Some plants are more desirable simply because of their calyx to leaf ratio.

Thanks for the thoughts. I wasn’t fretting terribly because I have 2 other plants. Just wanted some opinions so I stop poking at them to see what’s underneath.

 

[Bsmoke78]

Thanks for the thoughts. I wasn’t fretting terribly because I have 2 other plants. Just wanted some opinions so I stop poking at them to see what’s underneath.

Your just giving her what she needs

 

[jimihendrix1]

Many leafy varieties have some afghanica as these types of plants are more worried about producing THC glands vs stigmas, and resin/buds. Yours is most likely due to genetics. Ive seen all kinds of super leafy types, and is one reason I go more towards Sativa Hybrids.

 

[Fordprefect42]

Many leafy varieties have some afghanica as these types of plants are more worried about producing THC glands vs stigmas, and resin/buds. Yours is most likely due to genetics. Ive seen all kinds of super leafy types, and is one reason I go more towards Sativa Hybrids.

So based on what you have seen in general should I expect a reasonable amount of bud under there that is just a pain in the ass to trim or does it imply less yield?

 

[ZeeeDoc]

Yep it’s gonna a bitch to trim. I’ve had the odd super leafy over the years and generally when it dries will be more leaf than bud. I put it down to genetics.

 

[hotrodharley]

Dark green color says enough nitrogen for a while. Some strains really respond and apparently this is one.

 

[Fordprefect42]

Dark green color says enough nitrogen for a while. Some strains really respond and apparently this is one.

Yep already with you on that. I’ve done just GH micro and bloom the last three times I’ve added nutes. One idea that occurred to me was I’ve been running my EC hotter than I had previously but kept the same NPK ratios. I thought that might have contributed to leafiness. Thanks for the thought.

 

[hotrodharley]

Yep already with you on that. I’ve done just GH micro and bloom the last three times I’ve added nutes. One idea that occurred to me was I’ve been running my EC hotter than I had previously but kept the same NPK ratios. I thought that might have contributed to leafiness. Thanks for the thought.

Lucas formula. I’ve run it in Pro Mix multiple times. Start to finish.

 

[Fordprefect42]

Lucas formula. I’ve run it in Pro Mix multiple times. Start to finish.

What differences do you see with Lucas versus traditional ratios?

 

[JSB99]

I’ve got a few grows under my belt now, at least enough that I have a general sense of what I’m doing, but haven’t seen this yet.

These buds are overwhelmingly leafy on this plant. For people who have been doing this longer, I wonder if someone could give me a take on whether there is likely to be some decent bud under that mess or am I going to trim away and find underneath all of that leaf the mystery surprise is a stem?

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You'll benefit greatly by trimming away some of the huge leaves up top, blocking the light to the lowers. This generally applies to indoor grows, where usable light is limited.

I did some comparisons last year, between trimming and not. The differences are very clear. In my grow thread (link in my signature box), you can see pics of the comparisons. Probably around page 50 or so.

 

[JSB99]

Here, take a look at some notes and pics when I tried an indoor grow without trimming. The results were quite unspectacular.

https://rollitup.org/t/which-would-produce-more-do-in-a-dwc.944432/page-49

 

[hotrodharley]

What differences do you see with Lucas versus traditional ratios?

Haven’t done a side by side but I don’t see any problems with mine as far as no Grow. If I do see fade low and early I give them a taste of it but most strains just cruise right along.

 

[Fordprefect42]

So we pulled back a few leaves and there are some tiny budlettes that look like they were suffocating under there along with some moisture. I took what I think is an unusual approach of trimming back some of that excess sugar leaf to expose those bud sites. I’ll share how that experiment goes when it’s done.

 

[hotrodharley]

So we pulled back a few leaves and there are some tiny budlettes that look like they were suffocating under there along with some moisture. I took what I think is an unusual approach of trimming back some of that excess sugar leaf to expose those bud sites. I’ll share how that experiment goes when it’s done.

Control your humidity 24/7 while in flower. Especially late flower. Keep air moving all around.

 

[Rozgreenburn]

So we pulled back a few leaves and there are some tiny budlettes that look like they were suffocating under there along with some moisture. I took what I think is an unusual approach of trimming back some of that excess sugar leaf to expose those bud sites. I’ll share how that experiment goes when it’s done.

Photos of technical defoliation please?

 

[Fordprefect42]

Control your humidity 24/7 while in flower. Especially late flower. Keep air moving all around.

Yep. 2 hurricane fans and a swiveling tower fan. Humidity has been sitting at 45% although I’m going to drop to 40 over the next few days.

 

[JSB99]

So we pulled back a few leaves and there are some tiny budlettes that look like they were suffocating under there along with some moisture. I took what I think is an unusual approach of trimming back some of that excess sugar leaf to expose those bud sites. I’ll share how that experiment goes when it’s done.

Not an experiment, as its already been done, proven, and documented. Trim in the second or third week of veg, depending on how many upper huge leaves are blocking everything below. Even tho those are on top, trim them away. Then, around the second week of flower, trim away the majority of big leaves, which I believe the plant uses to grow itself, exposing all the little leaves attached to the buds, which I believe function to grow the buds. The plant will still double or triple its size during flower, even with a lot of the larger fans below removed. If you have huge leaves covering up all the little leaves for bud development, your yields will certainly suffer.

 

[Fordprefect42]

Photos of technical defoliation please?