Pandemic 2020

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Unclebaldrick

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Dr.Amber Trichome

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I'm 67 yrs old. Age will bitch slap you. I have to put on suntan lotion to combat rosacea because I sit in front of 3 monitors most of the day. Be careful. Even your own immune system can attack you.

That being said, I'm still a sexy hunk in my mind with just a few more blemishes to hide.
That’s hysterical. I sit in front of 10 monitors everyday , no issues. It’s most likely because I have a dimmer on my ceiling lights , :lol:
We had a guy call off today after taking a test yesterday - for mono. Somehow I find mono hilarious now. Just hilarious.

Strange times.
Mono is the best. The kissing disease !!I had it in high school. A mild case. I got it from my sisters boyfriend . It’s not what you think !:lol:
He took his temp at our house and I took the thermometer and stuck it in my mouth . Lol. I wanted to get out of going to school. Got out for a week and just lied out in the sun working on my tan all week. Lol
 

Offmymeds

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I have a lot of Scottish/Irish blood. My father had rosacea for a spell but his went away. I thought the dermatologist was pulling my leg when she first prescribed suntan lotion for rosacea due to the radiation from the monitors. It might be just that the zinc in the lotion helps rosacea symptoms but it works whether it's due to the zinc blocking the radiation or some other physiological reason. It is about the only thing that has worked against my rosacea. I bought the suntan lotion from the dermatologist. I honestly don't trust the dermatologist but if somehting is working I'm sticking to it.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Promising At-Home Treatment for COVID-19 Discovered: FDA Approved Drug for Leprosy (scitechdaily.com)

Promising At-Home Treatment for COVID-19 Discovered: FDA Approved Drug for Leprosy

Phase 2 clinical trial could begin immediately for clofazimine, an FDA-approved drug on WHO’s List of Essential Medicines.

A Nature study authored by scientists at Sanford Burnham Prebys Medical Discovery Institute and the University of Hong Kong shows that the leprosy drug clofazimine, which is FDA approved and on the World Health Organization’s List of Essential Medicines, exhibits potent antiviral activities against SARS-CoV-2 and prevents the exaggerated inflammatory response associated with severe COVID-19. Based on these findings, a Phase 2 study evaluating clofazimine as an at-home treatment for COVID-19 could begin immediately.

“Clofazimine is an ideal candidate for a COVID-19 treatment. It is safe, affordable, easy to make, taken as a pill and can be made globally available,” says co-senior author Sumit Chanda, Ph.D., professor and director of the Immunity and Pathogenesis Program at Sanford Burnham Prebys. “We hope to test clofazimine in a Phase 2 clinical trial as soon as possible for people who test positive for COVID-19 but are not hospitalized. Since there is currently no outpatient treatment available for these individuals, clofazimine may help reduce the impact of the disease, which is particularly important now as we see new variants of the virus emerge and against which the current vaccines appear less efficacious.”

Promising candidate revealed by screening drug library
Clofazimine was initially identified by screening one of the world’s largest collections of known drugs for their ability to block the replication of SARS-CoV-2. Chanda’s team previously reported in Nature that clofazimine was one of 21 drugs effective in vitro, or in a lab dish, at concentrations that could most likely be safely achieved in patients.

In this study, the researchers tested clofazimine in hamsters–an animal model for COVID-19–that were infected with SARS-CoV-2. The scientists found that clofazimine lowered the amount of virus in the lungs, including when given to healthy animals prior to infection (prophylactically). The drug also reduced lung damage and prevented “cytokine storm,” an overwhelming inflammatory response to SARS-CoV-2 that can be deadly.

“The animals that received clofazimine had less lung damage and lower viral load, especially when receiving the drug before infection,” says co-senior author Ren Sun, Ph.D., professor at the University of Hong Kong and distinguished professor emeritus at the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA). “Besides inhibiting the virus, there are indications that the drug also regulates the host response to the virus, which provides better control of the infection and inflammation.”

Clofazimine also worked synergistically with remdesivir, the current standard-of-care treatment for people who are hospitalized due to COVID-19, when given to hamsters infected with SARS-CoV-2. These findings suggest a potential opportunity to stretch the availability of remdesivir, which is costly and in limited supply.

How clofazimine works
The study showed that clofazimine stops SARS-CoV-2 infection in two ways: blocking its entry into cells and disrupting RNA replication (SARS-CoV-2 uses RNA to replicate). Clofazimine was able to reduce the replication of MERS-CoV, the coronavirus that causes Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS), in human lung tissue.

“Potentially most importantly, clofazimine appears to have pan-coronavirus activity, indicating it could be an important weapon against future pandemics,” says co-senior author Kwok-Yung Yuen, M.D., chair of Infectious Diseases at the University of Hong Kong, who discovered the coronavirus that causes severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS). “Our study suggests that we should consider creating a stockpile of ready-made clofazimine that could be deployed immediately if another novel coronavirus emerges.”

In July 2020 Sumit Chanda shared more about his team’s race to find a treatment for COVID-19:
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captainmorgan

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Variant wave building in the EU, Germany has exponential growth, Poland back in partial lock down, numbers going up every where.
 

mooray

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Yea, he's right, unfortunately

This conversation needs to be front and center. On one hand, I can see RR's desire to get rid of government, but you'd still have a couple hundred million shitty people and you'd still have a shitty country, which is why I think it'd be better/smarter/wiser to invest in making better people.
 

printer

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Yea, he's right, unfortunately

Won't nitpick everything but, well there are a few miss truths just watching offhand. (Federal Provincial, Local, Sales,) tax, insurance only take 11% of the average Canadian wage? I wish. We do pay higher taxes than the US, but when you add in health insurance Americans pay more. A number of years ago when I first started talking to some Americans online about the horrors of the Canadian health system to try and set them right, I was shocked to hear what health insurance for a family of four costs. It was almost the amount two working parents here pay. American health costs are not 5X Canadian. It is higher, no more than 50% though.

But people have more freedom and they can chose what kind of life they want in the US I was told. That is unless you want to do something like change jobs but if you do you will not be covered by your preexisting condition (as an example I had been told). In Canada, if you want to up and move to a different province for a new job, go right ahead. Each province has its own system and things are run a little differently but you will be covered by the province if you end up needing treatment.

So the vid does seem to be exaggerating things when really it does not have to. And you wonder why people do not believe what they are being told, that is unless they believe everything they are being told. One thing that does make the US medical system more expensive is you have more slack in the system, more workers, machines and the like. So things happen faster, if your insurance company agrees. We have lists for procedures and the people that need them in a hurry is put in the front of the line. So if you have something funny and need an MRI to check it out it may be months before you get in (my knee was acting up and told my doctor, went for an xray that day, nothing found so scheduled for a MRI. Had one done half a year later and nothing showed up. My knee does act up once in a while, probably hasn't for a year or more.) But if you come to Emergency and need an MRI you will get one that day. (I know, I worked in a hospital)

So at my age there is no way I would consider moving to the US just for the medical insurance costs alone. We do not have the insurance company overhead as the US does and it makes our system cheaper just on that point. Both countries are struggling to keep the healthcare costs down. The thing is, the end of care costs are the ones that suck the most out of the systems. But it does take a lot of resources to keep a person alive when otherwise they would have dropped dead.
 

TacoMac

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On one hand, I can see RR's desire to get rid of government, but you'd still have a couple hundred million shitty people and you'd still have a shitty country,
You know what you get when you get rid of government and you digress to a city state / village structure where a bunch of different factions constantly struggle for power?

Ireland.

You become Ireland.
 

Grandpapy

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So at my age there is no way I would consider moving to the US just for the medical insurance costs alone. We do not have the insurance company overhead as the US does and it makes our system cheaper just on that point. Both countries are struggling to keep the healthcare costs down. The thing is, the end of care costs are the ones that suck the most out of the systems. But it does take a lot of resources to keep a person alive when otherwise they would have dropped dead.
Poor soul, you'll never know the absolute joy of meeting your $8000 deductible, by April.
 

printer

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Poor soul, you'll never know the absolute joy of meeting your $8000 deductible, by April.
Until today the thought never occurred to me. To be said, we still have drug costs mostly not covered by our government. I do have a limited level of health insurance, it does cover 80% of my pill costs, basically pays for itself. We do have insurance we can buy, most employers have some form, where you get dental, chiropractic, physio and other non-hospital type of things covered. I just looked up our Provincial drug assistance, there is a sliding scale but we roughly have a 5% of your income deductible on drugs then the government pays the rest. Also there are some drugs that the government lowers the price on, so there are some costs to us, but there are programs to help out depending on circumstances.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The US vaccine effect: rapid rollout starts to bear fruit | Financial Times (ft.com)

The US vaccine effect: rapid rollout starts to bear fruit
Analysis of official figures shows sharper decline in hospitalizations and deaths of older people

The rapid rollout of Covid-19 vaccines across the US is starting to work, according to a Financial Times analysis of official data that shows the number of deaths and hospital admissions are falling more quickly among older people than in the wider population.

The US has overseen one of the fastest vaccination programmes in the world, administering more doses than any other country and vaccinating a large proportion of its population.

Older people and those in nursing homes were first in line for vaccinations, resulting in a rapid decline in Covid-19 hospitalisations and deaths among these groups in the past few weeks. The declines in these groups has been faster than in the rest of the population, which has also seen a broad-based reduction since the winter peak.

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Tom Frieden, the former director of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said: “Vaccines are already saving thousands of lives in the United States. Rapid declines in the number and proportion of deaths among nursing home residents are the direct result of vaccines saving lives.”

The US has suffered more in terms of overall fatalities than any other country from Covid-19, with over 500,000 deaths. But it has also proved more successful at vaccinating large numbers of people, having now administered nearly 33 doses per 100 people.

The first groups to be vaccinated have been healthcare workers and those working and living in nursing homes, which states started inoculating in December, as soon as the US drugs regulator authorized the first vaccine.

"The safest place in the country to be right now as far as Covid-19 goes is a nursing home".
Ruth Katz, LeadingAge


In the first month of the rollout, an estimated 78 per cent of nursing home residents were vaccinated, according to a study last month by the CDC. Since then that number has continued to rise, according to those working in the sector, who say they think that in many homes almost all residents have now received at least one shot.

Government data show that cases and deaths among nursing home residents started to fall around a week after the rollout began, even as both cases and deaths across the country as a whole continued to climb.

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In the following two months until the end of February, cases among nursing home residents dropped 96 per cent, while deaths fell 87 per cent.

During the same period, cases among people aged 18-54, the least likely group to have been vaccinated, fell by 72 per cent, while deaths dropped by 80 per cent.
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mooray

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Poor soul, you'll never know the absolute joy of meeting your $8000 deductible, by April.
And the really cool thing about hitting that $8000 deductible is that....you actually had to pay for that plan. You have to pay a decent about every month, *just for the opportunity* to pay a whole lot more. Awesome. Richest country in the world.....provided we're not talking about integrity and morality and empathy and...
 

mooray

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You know what you get when you get rid of government and you digress to a city state / village structure where a bunch of different factions constantly struggle for power?

Ireland.

You become Ireland.
Nah, Americans don't have that caveman playground alpha superiority complex, so we'd be fine.
 
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