Grow directly in fresh sun baked cow poop.

Snoopy808

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The mushrooms if they bruise blue, will undoubtedly be better than the herb. IF a seed will first germinate, then grow in it.
 
Snoopy808

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Pro mix HP means high problems lol! Its too light and lacking in NPK as a stand alone medium like roots, or Ffof or other bagged soils. Its similar to tupur, it needs amending. But not fresh cow dung alone....id say transplanting a 6 week old start is the way to experiment instead of germination in that mix.
 
hillbill

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Still a lot of hot manure. “Fresh” and “Manure” don’t generally go together.

A person could easily go Nose Blind being around that shit.
 
Snoopy808

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Ive seen a few times sick as fuck cannabis nurseries from planting in straight cow manure and straight compost. An unaware person can prove too much of a good thing.
 
Vedruss

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Snoopy808 said:
Pro mix HP means high problems lol! Its too light and lacking in NPK as a stand alone medium like roots, or Ffof or other bagged soils. Its similar to tupur, it needs amending. But not fresh cow dung alone....id say transplanting a 6 week old start is the way to experiment instead of germination in that mix.
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I hear ya.

It is much heaverier with the cow dung and wormcastings.

And plants seem happy.
 

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GrassBurner

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I don't think "baking in the sun" for 3 days is effective at removing pathogens in anything more than 1/8"-1/4" thick, especially since it isn't transparent. I'm guessing whatever was living inside the cow pie, is still thriving .
I wouldn't want to take the chance of bringing in E. coli or something else. My hands get dirty all the time messing with my plants, I'd hate to be picking up and spreading pathogens inside the house.
If you're wanting to grow in something fresh, get some worm castings.
 
Snoopy808

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Now worm casts....what else did you mix in your not telling us! If you were heavy with the cow manure and worm cast expect micronutrient deficiencies to develop and nitrogen toxicity. Otherwise wise your mix, according to the pic shows not too much to be concerned about, but there's some suggestive signs in those plants to watch. Based on the picture. And blurple lighting will ensure you are late on identification of chlorosis symptoms FYI.
Good luck, hope its a success.
 
MAGpie81

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Millo said:
I don't know if saliva contains "beneficial" microbes for plants. I am not aware of any study.
The moisture theory may be true but even so, you would have to carry your seed in your mputh for like a whole day before the shell of the seed softens. Either way it still is science, nothing magical about it
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Yeah I doubt the microbe thing and wouldn’t trust my own mouth.
 
Vedruss

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Snoopy808 said:
Now worm casts....what else did you mix in your not telling us! If you were heavy with the cow manure and worm cast expect micronutrient deficiencies to develop and nitrogen toxicity. Otherwise wise your mix, according to the pic shows not too much to be concerned about, but there's some suggestive signs in those plants to watch. Based on the picture. And blurple lighting will ensure you are late on identification of chlorosis symptoms FYI.
Good luck, hope its a success.
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Blurple lighting makes it hard for me to see problems. I will have to look close.

I only mixed those three things together in 3 equal parts.

There is very little food in water 175 ppm

They went from cloner to 1 gallon fabric bags to 5 gallon.

My run off is 900

I think I see nitrogen toxicity in the tips of leaves they almost claw down.

Why do you think I will have a deficiency
I thought I was concerned about having to much food.
 
MAGpie81

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Vedruss said:
I agree.

So these are planted in
1/3 cow poop
1/3 worm casting
1/3 pro mix High porosity.
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So, you seem like someone conscious about the contents of your soil and environmental effects, so I’m going to share a problem folks like us run into trying to source quality organic ingredients. I cheat with my nutrients sometimes, but I am working on creating a large batch of soil I can reuse and amend with the most environmentally friendly products possible- meaning not simply organic, but less-traveled by petrol source, and sustainably and ethically produced.
Check out kisorganics or the podcast Cannabis Cultivation and Science for some ideas.

Anyhoo- Peat Moss (in ProMix) Bad?
www.life.ca

Why You Shouldn't Garden With Peat Moss

Peat moss has no place in an ecological garden because peat bogs are carbon sinks and harvesting harms the ecology.
www.life.ca www.life.ca
 
hillbill

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Promix XP just has more perlite for higher drainage, excellent and consistent base, grower needs to amend but an excellent base medium.
 
Snoopy808

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Now its clones not seeds? Did you mouth molest the rooted clones before transplanting? Lol jk jk
You are well intentioned in your grow style. I can get on board with that. Your soil is too much in some aspects and too little in others. Adequate watering to runoff, beneficial microbes and dolomite are things to consider down the line if issues arise.
In the cannabis nurseries it was too much nitrogen in the cow manure which was well aged, i get from the same place but mix in my outdoors holes and sits 2 weeks before transplanting. In the straight compost it was a visually confusing look of WTF! There was some micronutrient deficiencies caused by other micronutrients toxicities. Lab soil and tissue samples gave us that answer.
 
Vedruss

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Srry my run off on the high end is 900

Sometimes I have to water a little deeper to manage the salts.

Also if I'm running into a deficiency I assumed I could top dress.
 
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