Hayduke's Seldom Seen Garden

DKskater75

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lookin good man. those second and third pics look awesome, super healthy, thats the red diesel i think? how many plants you got total in there now i cant even count lol and what exactly are you trying to accomplish with the zombies again??
 

Hayduke

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Thanks all!!

lookin good man. those second and third pics look awesome, super healthy, thats the red diesel i think? how many plants you got total in there now i cant even count lol and what exactly are you trying to accomplish with the zombies again??
Yeah DK those are the red diesels, which I have 6 of. The 3 bushy ones with the scrawny branches are the "Krazy-Train" (kush x trainwreck) that I bought site unseen and they turned out to be very small barely rooted clones in full flower. Not wanting to lose my $45 I have had them under veg for like 7 weeks reverting them back to veg to get them bigger, get clones to keep genetics, then flower the bushes! Then there are the 3 headband zombies for a total of 12.

The headband is my favorite smoke. I am re-vegging until I can get clones, again to save the genetics. I will then add the re-vegged "zombies" back to flower when there is room, then smoke those zombie bitches!

The red diesels grew an inch overnight following their feeding. I had to lower the shelf in the veg box. It is completely packed full. If I do not get a couple of males soon I will just have to continue vegging in the flower box under the HPS. I plan on growing out a male inside of 2 rubbermaid totes stacked opening to opening. Inside painted white, 1-3 42w cfl's and exhaust fan. I would like to collect pollen to be able to lightly polinate a lower branch occaisionally to avoid buying seed or screwing with clones. I need to do some research on collecting and keeping cannabis pollen.
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DKskater75

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sounds like a lot of work man lol. can you not find the headband anywhere else or some shit?? i gotta start lookin into breedin too man i know what you mean. i just tossed all my males this time around, didnt really know what to do with them. could keep them in the veg tent but i want to get a new batch going here soon so thats not really an option. oh well i got plenty of seeds to keep me busy for a while haha bongsmilie
 

Hayduke

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You might have looked at this already Haydauke but just in case you haven't here is the link for info on collecting and keeping cannabis pollen in RUI FAQ

https://www.rollitup.org/view.php?pg=faq&cmd=category&id=82


good growing to ya Haydauke


yellowsnakes

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Thanks snake dude, It is sounding complicated. Also some say the viability is in days. I do not believe this! I am sure viability is reduced but pollen is used in ecology to determine forest communities composition over time. We know when the Chestnut trees died out, from pollen in the mud around lakes (not that ancient pollen is viable). Uncle Ben mentions long term storage in his method. More research maybe...

sounds like a lot of work man lol. can you not find the headband anywhere else or some shit?? i gotta start lookin into breedin too man i know what you mean. i just tossed all my males this time around, didnt really know what to do with them. could keep them in the veg tent but i want to get a new batch going here soon so thats not really an option. oh well i got plenty of seeds to keep me busy for a while haha bongsmilie
Headband is clone only from what I understand and I really don't want to pay $20-$25 each.

You have enough seeds to last a while!!!!!!!!!!!! I think I would still play around with cloning to save some though.
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DKskater75

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fair enough. yeah i got almost 100 seeds still lol. only like 5 are fem tho so ill be messin with a bunch of one strain at a time after this i suppose. i should really have cloned this purple wreck since i used all of the seeds. definitely will tho when i get down to the last of this skywalker haha. still got 3 more of em after these 2 i just planted :bigjoint:
 

Hayduke

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My favorite #5 is a f'n dude! He is out of box on toilet tank living on indirect light. forgot to close off that part of the house and the damn cat nibbled on 3 of the dudes leaves...hope she doesn't get a taste for weed...for the cat's sake!

Now I got to figure out what to do with male(s)

1. kill all the bastards!

2. Flower one in rubbermaid bin growbox and collect pollen.

3. take cuttings to practice, top, FIM, etc (basically torture in the name of science...awfully fascist, yet maybe needed) afterward, flower a rooted male clone to save on height, then collect pollen.

4. Take female cuttings also and combine one small rooted male with a small rooted female in the rubbermaid tub growbox to collect seed filled buds as opposed to lightly polinating a select few buds, with the risk of unwanted polination.

6 week pics tomorrow.
 

DKskater75

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sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me. maybe im just really high and dont understand what the fuck youre talking about but whatever... i found little balls on my purple wreck yesterday!! had to pick them off not cool... planted 12 new ones too 9 of them fem so no more fuckin around with those damn dudes! that sounded kinda gay...
 

Hayduke

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Yeah, I felt a little weird when I found out that the sexiest plant I had was a dude!:spew:
JK I voted no on 8!
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DKskater75

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lol yeah that does suck though... was strange im glad i actually took a close look at the plants haha i pulled one off and this little puff came out i was like OH FUCK NO get this shit outta here. there werent that many but i got the rest before any opened up..
 

Hayduke

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lol yeah that does suck though... was strange im glad i actually took a close look at the plants haha i pulled one off and this little puff came out i was like OH FUCK NO get this shit outta here. there werent that many but i got the rest before any opened up..
Just what you need...more seed! I feel a strange hatred towards the two males which are out of light on death row, I just want them to die when I see their little nuts.
 

Hayduke

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#2 and #6 showed male, I am pretty sure #1 is female, #3 shows absolutely no sign of even trying to sex. So I figured I would torture the males before their death. I got a humidity dome, seedling heating mat, rooting hormone, and some rockwool and decided to practice taking and rooting clones before I hack up a precious female. I might keep a male clone to add to a female clone to seed inside a trashcan with a cfl or two.

Pics are: death row (males), male flowers on #2, clones no lid, with lid, males topped and pinched and bent, top veg box, headband re-veg (zombies), k-train re-veg.
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Hayduke

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#4, the largest female was showing stress (purple petioles at top) I popped it out of its #1 nursery pot, and sure enough, packed with roots. I picked up 6-3 gallon white square pots that fit perfectly in the 2' x 3' flower box. They are about 11" square. So mixed up some soil and re potted the two confirmed females (#4 and #1). #3 still shows zero signs of sex and remains in the small pot. All 3 k-train have 10-12 nice stems with 4 or more nodes on them. One will make clones then become a mommy while the other 2 are going to receive some LST and be put in to flower near the same time as the red diesels due to the 3 and maybe 4 males. I have been playing with the males: pinched stalk and bent over, top then turned up overnight with only indirect light. Today after watching a youtube vid on LST, bent the stalk of another back and forth to loosen and bent without breaking and twist tied to pot, allowing light to lower branches creating many tops. This worked well and will be employed on female diesels as well.
no roots on male clones yet.

pics are new pots, veg box (headband reveg front, k-train and #3 red diesel middle, 2 female red diesel in back, a little lower), #4 height, #1 height, #4 width, tops of diesels with 1 k-train right front.
 

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yellowsnakes

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I picked up 6-3 gallon white square pots that fit perfectly in the 2' x 3' flower box. They are about 11" square.
. . . . good purchase HayDuke. I believe the square pot is a better utilization of your floor area.

I've been looking at my local garden supply store but they didn't have them their. The ones you got look perfect.



good growing to ya HayDuke


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Hayduke

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Yeah i am pretty stoked on the pots. 6 fit perfect in the flower box. I think 5 gallons might be excessive since I am not vegging till maturity. Plus they are white, so they do not absorb heat and reflect light!. It should be getting pretty close to happy time up there in the north isn't it Snakedude?:weed:
 

Hayduke

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I decided due to my height restrictions, LST was pretty much required. #4 was 18" and #2 was 16" I had already done this to a topped male and #3, the female that took 2 weeks to show 1 calyx and pistils. It was a difficult decision for #4 as she was so pretty, but she was growing near an inch a day since repotted, and only really had another 6-8" before I had to bend over tops. #3 was bent over at about 8" and has turned her top back up. The lower branches are responding to the added light. I probably should have started the LST earlier, but oh well. #4 and #2 were bent over at 12".

I had planned to start flowering at 18", and since #4 was...I cleaned out the flower box, moved all wiring external (besides 1 light extension cord for ionizer) and touch-up painted. I moved the 2 girls in 3 gallon pots (#4 and #3) under the HPS. The LST was an afterthought once they were in the flower box. The tops had lots of new growth and were bending from their own weight with the help of a fan. It was almost like they wanted to bend. As I played with them, there was no going back. I bought myself a couple of more weeks of veg, maybe. I also wanted them to get used to the new environment (9,166 lumens/sq.ft.) as well as open up some space for the K-train in the veg box. They are currently 18" from light and seem to be fine.

Due to only 3 females, 2 k-train will be flowered 2-3 weeks behind the 3 red diesels, and hopefully a headband zombie 2-3 weeks after that. The strongest k-train will be have as many clones taken as possible, then put back to recover and kept as a mommy. Probably start 2 AK-48 and 2 power skunk in 2 weeks. I am still a little freaked out about femminized seeds (what causes them-no straight answer, and I don't need bigger moobies!) but I sure understand the value of them now. I was hoping to do better than 50/50, but if that cant happen then males are a huge waste of space, time, soil, and hope.

Pics: Flower box, up close LST, #3 slowpoke, k-train, outside of flower box, bonus unrelated.
 

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