Anybody else notice / have concerns about the extreme level of violence lately?

hanimmal

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Its like a marriage man. If it fails it both sides fault. I respect your opinion, and I'm telling you what I see. The news, and the conspiracy theorist videos trying to nay say... look at it all and decide. Thats what I'm saying. Do I believe it? Why not? Its not that far out of reach honestly. Thats just being realistic. But to say the videos that defend Trump and show "the truth" are also a tactic of the right side. So I stick witb the American people and say dare to question everything. Thats all brother. Im not attacking you bud. Im just looking at the whole pot of shit soup not just a spoon full. Feel me?
Why not. Because they are lying to you and being paid to do it. When someone lies to you, it is time to stop trying to think you are sophisticated enough to figure out when they are and when they are not, because everything being presented is propaganda aimed to get people to 'feel' the truthiness of something without actually just going to AP news or Reuters to see whats really known about the situation.

I dont have the velvet tongue to say this the way it is in my head so just work with me please. I have a point I don't know if I'm conveying it correctly. The right side probably pays conspiracy theorist for videos like the left pays people to riot...(accusations not what I feel) however I say it makes sense that fire is fighting fire...with fire. If I said that right lol
The right wing propaganda machine not only pays for those videos on YT that get spread everywhere. They also pay for the websites that con people into thinking that they are talking to other people and not just a few trolls acting like they are, and the actual news producers like Fox and Hate radio to harden people's beliefs in the lies.

I am calling bullshit, and saying that it is this kind of nonsense that is being used to trick people into these 'both sides' garbage.

Even the rioting that occurs during the social justice protests is part of this propaganda. Take the white nationalist that was breaking windows dressed in black and holding an umbrella that gets filmed and later that night the buildings start burning painting a false narrative for people on the right to get to point to when they are arguing with their family.

The 'both sides' shit needs to be seen for what it is, the same lies that anyone who has tussled with a bully hears when they have to be in the principles office next to a crying brat.
 

Massachusetts86

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Why not. Because they are lying to you and being paid to do it. When someone lies to you, it is time to stop trying to think you are sophisticated enough to figure out when they are and when they are not, because everything being presented is propaganda aimed to get people to 'feel' the truthiness of something without actually just going to AP news or Reuters to see whats really known about the situation.


The right wing propaganda machine not only pays for those videos on YT that get spread everywhere. They also pay for the websites that con people into thinking that they are talking to other people and not just a few trolls acting like they are, and the actual news producers like Fox and Hate radio to harden people's beliefs in the lies.

I am calling bullshit, and saying that it is this kind of nonsense that is being used to trick people into these 'both sides' garbage.

Even the rioting that occurs during the social justice protests is part of this propaganda. Take the white nationalist that was breaking windows dressed in black and holding an umbrella that gets filmed and later that night the buildings start burning painting a false narrative for people on the right to get to point to when they are arguing with their family.

The 'both sides' shit needs to be seen for what it is, the same lies that anyone who has tussled with a bully hears when they have to be in the principles office next to a crying brat.
You know...I dont disagree with any of what your saying. Thats my point. Outside looking in. Yiur saying what I'm saying I guess I'm just being very passive and leaving too many doors open. I find you to be very intelligent in what your saying. Now if an educated nay sayer could come up with an intelligent point of view against your above statement we could try to understand and come together on...something. I guess that would be were all passionate American patriots..
 

Massachusetts86

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lulz

Triggered much?

Anyway, your post belongs in the past. We saw your kind for what they are on Jan 6. Too funny that after failing to overturn the election that Trump lost and assassinate Trump's political enemies, you cowards would lie to avoid the consequences.

Bunch of white men with pussies.
With respect, your clearly not grasping my point. Like I said previously today It may be the way I'm conveying. ...no not triggered even a little. Im the farthest thing from a pussy sir. Lets keep this talk classy or just don't respond brother. No need for that crap.
 

Fogdog

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With respect, your clearly not grasping my point. Like I said previously today It may be the way I'm conveying. ...no not triggered even a little. Im the farthest thing from a pussy sir. Lets keep this talk classy or just don't respond brother. No need for that crap.
Simply disgusted at the lying shit you guys promote. No respect given back. You complain about "division". The division comes from Republican culture wars and Republican white nationalist terrorism.
 

Massachusetts86

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Simply disgusted at the lying shit you guys promote. No respect given back. You complain about "division". The division comes from Republican culture wars and Republican white nationalist terrorism.
Yeah... you don't get what I'm saying at all and thats my fault.
 

hanimmal

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Yeah... you don't get what I'm saying at all and thats my fault.
Ill try this. Let's say you are here as a middle of the road American and say something like 'Both sides'.

I log into my right wing jesus troll account and back you up saying how something like Democrats are trying to divide us on race to be able to steal an election using minorities somehow. And I link to something like 'The Nation' to sell some lie about how Russian military attacking our country is really not a big deal, and that the Democrats are way worse.

Then I log into my 'left-troll' account and attack you for being a right wing fucktard who blows ProudBoys and is a traitor racist who is in bed with 'the elite'. And I post a link to 'the Hill' that shows something misleading that you see is a lie, coming from the 'left', even though it is funded by Russian backers to spread the cherry picked narrative for the 'left' who will never vote for a racist like Trump. But who might be able to be convinced to not vote if they can be tricked that Biden's kid is whatever propaganda they designed.

Now, to you a totally real person, you would see this as 'both sides' are being dicks right?



But in reality it is one person who is being paid by the right wing propaganda machine. And in reality sock puppets are endless so it is not just a couple accounts and one actual person, it is unlimited accounts and however many that the people of Russia's money is paying for due to Putin using it any way he wants.

This is why 'both sides' is bullshit.
 

Fogdog

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Yeah... you don't get what I'm saying at all and thats my fault.
Aww, play the pity card now.

Shameless lying from right wing authoritarians. That's all we've seen from your kind for the last 10 years or more. Trump turned it up and served up lies from the WH nonstop and wore that tactic out. We saw your kind for what you are on Jan 6. Republican leadership not only failed to convict the insurrectionist in chief, they backed him and repeated his lies.

The gas lighting doesn't work. The fake bullshit doesn't work. Jan 6 ended your kind's ability to hide in the weeds and whisper lies. We see you. Just like we saw Chauvin murder Floyd and your kind try to cover it up with their lies. We saw that too.
 

jonnynobody

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When I get bored these days I watch fox news for about 15 minutes to see what reality looks like for those that live in fantasy land. It's downright scary over there. By the time I change the channel I have 4 questions:
1) Where's my gun
2) Where's my bible
3) How much are you paying that good looking blonde anchor with super duper sexy tan legs to parrot all those horrible xenophobic lies for you?
4) Can I borrow her for 15 minutes? I've got some hate bubbling inside me I'd love to unload :)

Was that too direct? 'Merrica bitches :)
 

Fogdog

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When I get bored these days I watch fox news for about 15 minutes to see what reality looks like for those that live in fantasy land. It's downright scary over there. By the time I change the channel I have 4 questions:
1) Where's my gun
2) Where's my bible
3) How much are you paying that good looking blonde anchor with super duper sexy tan legs to parrot all those horrible xenophobic lies for you?
4) Can I borrow her for 15 minutes? I've got some hate bubbling inside me I'd love to unload :)

Was that too direct? 'Merrica bitches :)
You be you.

a coward, a hypocrite and a misogynist.

No wonder ReTrumptards have stopped trying to compete through ideas. They have none.
 

Massachusetts86

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As soon as someone screams "both sides" you can tell they have been indoctrinated into a cult
Yes...a cult..in my country home where we live self reliantly, dont ask the gkve
Aww, play the pity card now.

Shameless lying from right wing authoritarians. That's all we've seen from your kind for the last 10 years or more. Trump turned it up and served up lies from the WH nonstop and wore that tactic out. We saw your kind for what you are on Jan 6. Republican leadership not only failed to convict the insurrectionist in chief, they backed him and repeated his lies.

The gas lighting doesn't work. The fake bullshit doesn't work. Jan 6 ended your kind's ability to hide in the weeds and whisper lies. We see you. Just like we saw Chauvin murder Floyd and your kind try to cover it up with their lies. We saw that too.
Ok man.
 

HGCC

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I hit up the both sides argument sometimes. I like to think I'm pretty clear in my views though and it's important to be critical of one's own party...or you wind up going with demon sperm arguments instead of actual justifiable criticism.

During the W Bush years there was a whole bunch of criticism of the patriot act. I agreed it was trash and didn't support it. Obama renewed it, in some instances going further. It's reasonable to say both sides suck shit on domestic spying. It's reasonable to criticize that decision.

But welp, tan suit and Dijon mustard were the arguments made so it is also absolutely true that the two sides aren't equal and one has become utterly retarded.
 

Massachusetts86

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Except when you're wife fucks your brother while you're out of town on a fishing trip. That's a one sided type of situation :)
Only my wife's fucking my brother because I'm getting fat...and I'm only getting fat because everytime I fuck your mother she feeds me sandwiches...and thats how it goes...one sided seemingly but there's a circle of deception.
 

hanimmal

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I hit up the both sides argument sometimes. I like to think I'm pretty clear in my views though and it's important to be critical of one's own party...or you wind up going with demon sperm arguments instead of actual justifiable criticism.

During the W Bush years there was a whole bunch of criticism of the patriot act. I agreed it was trash and didn't support it. Obama renewed it, in some instances going further. It's reasonable to say both sides suck shit on domestic spying. It's reasonable to criticize that decision.

But welp, tan suit and Dijon mustard were the arguments made so it is also absolutely true that the two sides aren't equal and one has become utterly retarded.
Defiantly worth being critical, and never being satisfied.

But also knowing whats up with reality and then deciding if it is even actually something that is wrong, and to what degree.

I remember back with the Bush stuff being all hardcore about it, but looking back I am not sure if it wasn't just a bunch of bullshit trolling of it being spammed by the very people who wanted to be able to attack us more easily. One question I have been thinking about is if it would be ok if the US government jacked the Russian militaries data on all of us Americans and used that if it wouldn't be some workaround to any data privacy concerns.

Anyways, I would be up to taking a real look at it (the domestic spying stuff) again, it would be interesting to think about it with a decade+ of history to weigh it with. Especially knowing how Snowden smuggled everything to the Russian military to use against us.

Also yeah, that is the best thing to come out of Trump. He utterly exposed the entire world to the troll that the right wing was pushing onto us all.
 
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