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CikaBika

CikaBika

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I cant believe that some idiots are attacking Police for last shooting.
Ask parents of attacked girl how they feel , do they judge the cop..

That idiot that wrote he could shoot warning shot?
Yeah like it would stop her.Every NORMAL person would stop fight when police came, but no that rhino tried to slaughter that poor girl.

wooow I didnt knew that people from RIU hang out in Vermont park..
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hanimmal

hanimmal

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gonnagro said:
After watching the video, gotta side with cop on this one. He just arrived on scene and evaluated the situation he saw. He has some seriously sharp eyes to have caught the knife was in her hand because no one else around seemed to notice it. Appears to me he did his job and followed proper procedures.

P.S. Chauvin on the other hand deserves worse than he's probably going to get. The other 3 officers on scene should all go down with him.

P.P.S. Waters was stupid to incite the crowd like that. That's like something Trump would do.
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I will have to watch it eventually. I am not a fan of watching kids get killed though so it might be a while.

I would say though that in the 10-15? minutes it took from a phone call to the police getting there that nobody was injured by this teenaged girl going mental ending in a bunch of bullets within seconds of the cop getting on the scene is what I call bullshit about. When people call the cops it doesn't mean that they are doing it for them to come out and immediately put down people like they are rabid dogs.

This doesn't mean that I think this guy should immediately become Chauvin's bunk mate (but if the blue lives matter mask thing that someone in the crowd said one of the cops was wearing according to a mention on msnbc that DIY talked about, it is evidence that they have been radicalized online by Trump trolls lies and propaganda), but it a clear example of how we need systemic changes in our policing.


As for Waters I disagree. Trump would have been the one that paid for and promoted the hate rally and then used it to get his people in a hate lather and unleashed them. Waters was were when she made the statement? And what did she say to entice violence? I think the pearl clutching about telling people that they have to fight back against being murdered on the streets is not the same by a mile as a hate monger like Trump inventing lies to con his flock with to get them to do things like break into the capital and stop congress.

I agree with you on Chauvin.
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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CikaBika said:
I cant believe that some idiots are attacking Police for last shooting.
Ask parents of attacked girl how they feel , do they judge the cop..

That idiot that wrote he could shoot warning shot?
Yeah like it would stop her.Every NORMAL person would stop fight when police came, but no that rhino tried to slaughter that poor girl.

wooow I didnt knew that people from RIU hang out in Vermont park..
woow

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Oh look more foreign trolling.
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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https://apnews.com/article/north-carolina-warrant-shooting-andrew-brown-082fe702910015753005ba591a77eedf
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ELIZABETH CITY, N.C. (AP) — A North Carolina deputy shot and killed a Black man while serving a search warrant Wednesday, authorities said, spurring an outcry from community members who demanded law enforcement accountability and the immediate release of body camera footage.

Authorities wouldn’t provide details of the shooting but an eyewitness said that Andrew Brown Jr. was shot while trying to drive away, and that deputies fired at him multiple times. The car skidded out of Brown’s yard and eventually hit a tree, said Demetria Williams, who lives on the same street.

Williams said after hearing one gunshot, she ran outside, where she saw other shots being fired at the car.

“When they opened the door he was already dead,” Williams told The Associated Press. “He was slumped over.” She said officers tried to perform chest compressions on him.

A car authorities removed from the scene appeared to have multiple bullet holes and a broken rear windshield.

The Pasquotank County Sheriff’s deputy was placed on leave pending a review by the State Bureau of Investigation, Sheriff Tommy Wooten II said at a news conference. Court records show Brown was 42 years old and had a history of drug charges and a misdemeanor drug possession conviction.

Dozens of people gathered at the scene of the shooting in Elizabeth City, a municipality of about 18,000 people 170 miles (274 km) northeast of Raleigh, where they expressed their anger and rallied around Brown’s family members. A large crowd later stood outside City Hall while the City Council held an emergency meeting, some holding signs proclaiming “Black Lives Matter” and “Stop killing unarmed Black Men.” As the evening wore on, a group gathered in the parking lot of the sheriff’s office and a crowd that grew to more than 200 blocked traffic on a main thoroughfare of the city, forcing cars to turn around.

“The police didn’t have to shoot my baby,” said Martha McCullen, an aunt of Brown who said she raised him after his parents died. McCullen stood on the stoop of Brown’s rental home, her eyes moist with emotion.

“Andrew Brown was a good person,” she said. “He was about to get his kids back. He was a good father. Now his kids won’t never see him again.”

Wooten said the deputy shot Brown about 8:30 a.m. The deputy was wearing an active body camera at the time of the shooting, said the sheriff, who declined to identify the officer or say how many shots he fired, citing a pending review by the State Bureau of Investigation. Wooten also did not say what the warrant was for.

Williams, the eyewitness who also was among those demonstrating outside City Hall on Wednesday evening, said Brown, who was known by neighbors as “Drew,” wasn’t a violent person.

“I didn’t believe that (officers) really did that because he wasn’t a threat to them. He was driving off even though he was trying to get away,” Williams said.

During the emergency meeting, Black members of the City Council spoke emotionally about the fears of their community amid multiple police shootings across the country and implored investigators to remain transparent.

“I’m afraid as a Black man,” an emotional Councilman Gabriel Adkins told his colleagues. “I’m afraid that I may be the next one that my family might have to see on the news that I was gunned down.”

Adkins said businesses in the neighborhood of the shooting had begun boarding up their windows in anticipation of violence.

“Not only do we need transparency ... we need accountability,” said City Councilman Darius Horton, who called for the immediate release of bodycam footage, the search warrant and a speedy explanation of what led to the shooting. “We need answers. ... Let’s not hide behind anything.”

Others councilors urged the community to remain calm until all of the facts about the shooting are known.

Brown’s grandmother, Lydia Brown, and his aunt Clarissa Brown Gibson told The Associated Press that they learned about his death through a TV news report. Both said they want the shooting thoroughly investigated.

“I am very upset. Andrew was a good person,” Lydia Brown said. The deputy “didn’t have to shoot him like that.”

Clarissa Brown Gibson said: “We want to know if he was served with a warrant, why the shooting over a warrant?”

Among those who gathered at the scene of the shooting was Keith Rivers, president of the Pasquotank County chapter of the NAACP.

“When is it going to stop? We just got a verdict yesterday,” Rivers said in a phone interview, referring to the guilty verdicts handed down Tuesday in the trial of former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin in the death of George Floyd. “Is it open season now? At some point, it has to stop. We have to start holding the people in charge accountable.”

The State Bureau of Investigation will turn the findings of its review over to District Attorney Andrew Womble, who pledged a thorough and deliberate inquiry.

“What we are looking for at this time will be accurate answers and not fast answers,” Womble told a news conference. “We’re going to wait for the full and complete investigation ... and we’ll review that and make any determinations that we deem appropriate at that time. This will not be a rush to judgment.”

Elizabeth City is located near where the Pasquotank River empties into the Albemarle Sound. It is home to a U.S. Coast Guard air station, Elizabeth City State University and a medical center, all of which support numerous jobs. The city’s population is more than 50% Black and about 40% white, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. Nearly 23% of residents live in poverty.
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injinji

injinji

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The wife and I were talking about this yesterday after we heard a press release about the original police report in the Floyd case. Even with all the body cam footage, and personal cell phones recording the whole thing, they still spin it completely out of shape.

 
CikaBika

CikaBika

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hanimmal said:
Oh look more foreign trolling.
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Trolling? did you saw the video.. Swings on her with knife??
So if that was your child and that whale stabbed her in the neck ,or shoulder and she dies who is guilty then?
Again cops!?
EveN Don Lemon on Cnn told that was justified shooting..
Are you dumb as that stupid view bit*hes.. ??
I really don't get it..
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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CikaBika said:
Trolling? did you saw the video.. Swings on her with knife??
So if that was your child and that whale stabbed her in the neck ,or shoulder and she dies who is guilty then?
Again cops!?
EveN Don Lemon on Cnn told that was justified shooting..
Are you dumb as that stupid view bit*hes.. ??
I really don't get it..
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I'm totally sure that you don't get it.
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hanimmal

hanimmal

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https://apnews.com/article/health-police-government-and-politics-mental-health-coronavirus-f8931f4907b46b49dfb4dea651d7e1e7
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WASHINGTON (AP) — When police respond to a person gripped by a mental health or drug crisis, the encounter can have tragic results. Now a government insurance program will help communities set up an alternative: mobile teams with mental health practitioners trained in de-escalating such potentially volatile situations.

The effort to reinvent policing after the death of George Floyd in police custody is getting an assist through Medicaid, the federal-state health insurance program for low-income people and the largest payer for mental health treatment. President Joe Biden’s recent coronavirus relief bill calls for an estimated $1 billion over 10 years for states that set up mobile crisis teams, currently locally operated in a handful of places.

Many 911 calls are due to a person experiencing a mental health or substance abuse crisis. Sometimes, like with Daniel Prude in Rochester, New York, the consequences are shocking. The 41-year-old Black man died after police placed a spit hood over his head and held him to the pavement for about two minutes on a cold night in 2020 until he stopped breathing. He had run naked from his brother’s house after being released from a hospital following a mental health arrest. A grand jury voted down charges against the officers.

Dispatching teams of emergency medical technicians and behavioral health practitioners would take mental health crisis calls out of the hands of uniformed and armed officers, whose mere arrival may ratchet up tensions. In Eugene, Oregon, such a strategy has been in place more than 30 years, with solid backing from police.

The concept “fits nicely with what we are trying to do around police reform,” Eugene Police Chief Chris Skinner said. The logic works “like a simple math problem,” he adds.

“If I can rely on a mechanism that matches the right response to the need, it means I don’t have to put my officers in these circumstances,” Skinner explained. “By sending the right resources I can make the assumption that there are going to be fewer times when officers are in situations that can turn violent. It actually de-conflicts, reducing the need for use of force.”

Eugene is a medium-size city about 100 miles (160 kilometers) south of Portland, known for its educational institutions. The program there is called Crisis Assistance Helping Out On The Streets, or CAHOOTS, and is run by the White Bird Clinic. CAHOOTS is part of the local 911 emergency response system but operates independently of the police, although there’s coordination. Crisis teams are not sent on calls involving violent situations.

“We don’t look like law enforcement,” White Bird veteran Tim Black said. “We drive a big white cargo van. Our responders wear a T-shirt or a hoodie with a logo. We don’t have handcuffs or pepper spray, and the way we start to interact sends a message that we are not the police and this is going to be a far safer and voluntary interaction.”

CAHOOTS teams handled 24,000 calls in the local area in 2019, and Black said the vast majority would have otherwise fallen to police. Many involve homeless people. The teams work to resolve the situation that prompted the call and to connect the person involved to ongoing help and support.

At least 14 cities around the country are interested in versions of that model, said Simone Brody, executive director of What Works Cities, a New York-based nonprofit that tries to promote change through effective use of data.

“It’s really exciting to see the federal government support this model,” Brody said. “I am hopeful that three years from now we will have multiple models and ideally some data that shows this has actually saved people’s lives.”

About 1,000 people a year are shot dead by police, according to an analysis by the Treatment Advocacy Center, which examined several publicly available estimates. Severe mental illness is a factor in at least 25% of such shootings, it estimated. The center advocates for improved mental health care.

Mobile crisis teams found their way into the COVID-19 relief bill through the efforts of Oregon Democratic Sen. Ron Wyden, who chairs the Finance Committee, which oversees Medicaid.

“Too often law enforcement is asked to respond to situations that they are not trained to handle,” Wyden said. “On the streets in challenging times, too often the result is violence, even fatal violence, particularly for Black Americans.”

Wyden’s legislation includes $15 million in planning grants to help states get going. The Congressional Budget Office estimates the program could take a couple of years to fully implement. Wyden said the $1 billion is a “down payment” on what he hopes will become a permanent part of Medicaid.

The idea may be well-timed, said Medicaid expert MaryBeth Musumeci, of the nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation. The coronavirus pandemic has worsened society’s pervasive mental health and substance abuse problems. At the same time, protests over police shootings of Black people have created an appetite for anything that could break the cycle.

“All of those things coming together are putting increased focus on the need for further developing effective behavioral health treatment models,” Musumeci said.

In Rhode Island, nurse turned malpractice lawyer Laura Harrington is helping coordinate a grassroots campaign to incorporate crisis teams into the state’s 911 system. She said she’s been surprised at the level of interest.

“I don’t want to get into blaming,” Harrington said. “We could blame social services. We could blame people who don’t take their medications. We could blame the police. I want to move forward and solve problems.”
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schuylaar

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CikaBika said:
Trolling? did you saw the video.. Swings on her with knife??
So if that was your child and that whale stabbed her in the neck ,or shoulder and she dies who is guilty then?
Again cops!?
EveN Don Lemon on Cnn told that was justified shooting..
Are you dumb as that stupid view bit*hes.. ??
I really don't get it..
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was is it about Don Lemon? Bitches.
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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Sorry, I found it interesting that she was saying she had something about 'common law' and reminded me of the sovereign citizen or whatever nonsense out there.
 
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schuylaar

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hanimmal said:

Sorry, I found it interesting that she was saying she had something about 'common law' and reminded me of the sovereign citizen or whatever nonsense out there.
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i never heard of that either. but she linked it to christianity so maybe?

Christianity and common law
Most of the States, however, have recognized that, for some purposes and in some sense at least, Christianity is a part of their common law, the more general view being that it is part of the common law no further than Lord CAMPELL declared it to be part of the common law of England.
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stupid bitch at rx counter: i married my fiance today clerk: i'm sorry about that.
 
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