Random Jabber Jibber thread

FresnoFarmer

FresnoFarmer

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manfredo said:
I think it all comes down to the lesser of 2 evils, for me anyways.

The vaccine is not even approved by the FDA and they tell you that when they give it. "It's an experimental drug" is what they told me....But I'd rather take my chances with an unknown vaccine that is working for most people, and has had some testing, than take my chances with a virus that has proven it can seriously harm or kill me...Plus I'm turning 60 this year, have COPD and a few other health issues. If I was 30 and healthy I'd probably be questioning whether to get one also.

Just think of all the college kids that are being forced to get vaccinated if they want an education. That's kind of fucked up forcing them too, but by the same token the virus went crazy here last fall when they returned and that's not right either.

I also got a "active pass" from NYS which is proof of vaccination on my cell phone, which I just used at my dentists to prove I am vaccinated, but I noticed it expires 10/08/2021. It will be expired before it's even approved probably, and we'll be needing another shot this fall.

Unfortunately I think covid is here to stay. I hope I'm wrong.
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I think anybody who needs the protection should get it if they want to. Just like the flu shot. My family has had terrible experiences with the flu shot, but others say it works for them. My mothers doctor told her she doesn’t need the shot because she is healthy. Then there are people with no medical background whatsoever screaming down people for not getting vaccinated. Like should my mother follow her doctors advice or some triggered stranger? It’s just wild right now. I feel like I’m living in Orwellian 1984 lol.
 
manfredo

manfredo

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FresnoFarmer said:
I think anybody who needs the protection should get it if they want to. Just like the flu shot. My family has had terrible experiences with the flu shot, but others say it works for them. My mothers doctor told her she doesn’t need the shot because she is healthy. Then there are people with no medical background whatsoever screaming down people for not getting vaccinated. Like should my mother follow her doctors advice or some triggered stranger? It’s just wild right now. I feel like I’m living in Orwellian 1984 lol.
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Which shot are you talking about? Because I have not heard of any doctors saying that about the covid vaccination to anyone over the age of 18.

Yes it's a personal decision whether or not to get a vaccination. But you could be killing others by not, and you might wind up killing someone you love.

Here's a little true story. A good friend of mine, about my age, has a large family. They ignored the guidelines and had a Christmas gathering. Their mom got covid and died in January. How fucked up is that? I imagine that will haunt them all for the rest of their lives!

I couldn't get my shots fast enough!!
 
FresnoFarmer

FresnoFarmer

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manfredo said:
Which shot are you talking about? Because I have not heard of any doctors saying that about the covid vaccination to anyone over the age of 18.

Yes it's a personal decision whether or not to get a vaccination. But you could be killing others by not, and you might wind up killing someone you love.

Here's a little true story. A good friend of mine, about my age, has a large family. They ignored the guidelines and had a Christmas gathering. Their mom got covid and died in January. How fucked up is that? I imagine that will haunt them all for the rest of their lives!

I couldn't get my shots fast enough!!
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The Covid shot. He said she is healthy and has had bad reactions to the flu shot so she shouldn’t get it unless she really wants to. He told her to supplement her diet with zinc and vitamin D3. Vaccinated people can spread the virus and kill people too. Where is the conclusive study showing these vaccines prevent transmission? I can only find the studies that say it is effective at lowering symptoms. None were tested for reducing transmission.
 
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FresnoFarmer

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doublejj said:
it's a matter of personal responsibility and public safety....fruit is fruit
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Public safety? Where are the conclusive studies proving that these reduce transmission? It’s not personal responsibility as much as it is virtue signaling. Also, would you rather stand in line behind somebody with no mask on breathing normally or somebody with a mask on coughing up phlegm into a spit bottle and having trouble catching their breath?
 
FresnoFarmer

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doublejj said:
yeah working for trump was a tough gig.....
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Was it really because he was working for Trump? Or because he came to that conclusion after reviewing the 14 random control trials that stated masking has no significant effect on reducing transmission of influenza-like illness?
 
Singlemalt

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FresnoFarmer said:
Was it really because he was working for Trump? Or because he came to that conclusion after reviewing the 14 random control trials that stated masking has no significant effect on reducing transmission of influenza-like illness?
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I read, and he has subsequently apologised for it, that he claimed masks were not necessary at the beginning because they knew there would be a run on them and they wanted to make sure med. and 1st responder personnel had them. Hell, look at what happened with paper goods and cleaning products
 
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