Examples of GOP Leadership

mooray

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So you voluntarily pay to incarcerate people for weed and to kill people with drones that haven't harmed you ?

That's a great society you participate in there Chief!

So if I take all of the fruit of your labor and call it a tax, you're okay with that then ? As long as I call it a tax, it won't be theft right ? Or is there a particular percentage threshold that once crossed makes it theft ? What is that percentage ?
I do voluntarily pay for that, and I pay for plenty worse. And so do you, it's just that I don't lie to myself about it to feel better.

It's not a great society. That's the real "big lie" going on in this country, our delusion awesomeness.

All, that word again? No, I wouldn't be. The people collectively decide the percentage. Are you new in the US? Some of our issues do seem ESL related.
 

Rob Roy

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The people collectively decide the percentage. Are you new in the US? Some of our issues do seem ESL related.
False. Theft is when you (singular or plural) take something that isn't yours without permission. You can't vote somethings not theft even when it is, anymore than you can vote gang rape is a consensual orgy because the collective said so.

The only thing people can do is speak for themselves. When they speak for others, without their consent, it's a kind of theft of choice isn't it ?

Consent is the word you are avoiding and abusing the meaning of, just to keep you on track.
 

mooray

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False. Theft is when you (singular or plural) take something that isn't yours without permission. You can't vote somethings not theft even when it is, anymore than you can vote gang rape is a consensual orgy because the collective said so.

The only thing people can do is speak for themselves. When they speak for others, without their consent, it's a kind of theft of choice isn't it ?

Consent is the word you are avoiding and abusing the meaning of, just to keep you on track.
I'm not avoiding it at all. I'm saying by choosing to live and work in the US, you are giving consent. Your actions are giving consent, no matter how much them flappy lips say otherwise. That's the structure of the country we live in.
 

Rob Roy

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I'm saying by choosing to live and work in the US, you are giving consent.
False. In fact it's ridiculous and somewhat of a platitude.

"By choosing to be born on a cotton plantation, little Toby has chosen to be a slave" - You
 

mooray

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Look man, my memory ain't as good as it used to be. :bigjoint:

I'll read it, later, maybe.


edit - Nope you didn't really define it. I'm a little hurt.
False. In fact it's ridiculous and somewhat of a platitude.

"By choosing to be born on a cotton plantation, little Toby has chosen to be a slave" - You
Unless you're a baby in perpetuity, you choose to participate in society and fund our atrocities by living and working here. That's the reality of it. That's a fact. You say you don't, but it's a lie. Screw yesterday, there are more moments in time than the second you were born. You've participated for years, likely many decades, in adulthood.
 

Rob Roy

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Unless you're a baby in perpetuity, you choose to participate in society and fund our atrocities by living and working here. That's the reality of it. That's a fact. You say you don't, but it's a lie. Screw yesterday, there are more moments in time than the second you were born. You've participated for years, likely many decades, in adulthood.
Your arguments are vague and not very convincing. You went from defending coercion, to saying, "well you do it too".

It took longer than a second to birth me. It was days. I was 18 pounds and it killed my natural mother.
I was raised by Sasquatches, but we always had food on the table. Well not exactly on the table, but if we'd had one, that's where it woulda been.
 

mooray

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Lol I've never defended coercion. I've said it's not coercion. It's the design and we chose it and by staying here and participating in it, we continue to choose it everyday, and that's not at all coercion. That's just willingly participating in something you don't like because the things you do like outweigh it.

I'm saying that I willingly participate in this shitty society. It's not an excuse, it's just being honest. I don't like it and plan to change it. You just close your eyes/ears and say, "la la la I see nothing, not a willing participant", but it's chicken shit lies because you want to feel good about yourself because you think you're awesome, whereas I...am a bit of a masochist and prefer accuracy over ego.
 
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CunningCanuk

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Lol I've never defended coercion. I've said it's not coercion. It's the design and we chose it and by staying here and participating in it, we continue to choose it everyday, and that's not at all coercion. That's just willingly participating in something you don't like because the things you do like outweigh it.

I'm saying that I willingly participate in this shitty society. It's not an excuse, it's just being honest. I don't like it and plan to change it. You just close your eyes/ears and say, "la la la I see nothing, not a willing participant", but it's chicken shit lies.
You’ve been around here long enough to know you’re wasting your time.

 

printer

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Georgia Judge Orders Audit of 147K Fulton County Absentee Ballots
A Georgia judge on Friday agreed to unseal absentee ballots in Fulton County in a lawsuit alleging that thousands of counterfeit ballots were cast there.

Henry County Superior Court Judge Brian Amero’s order forces Georgia’s largest county to allow a group of Georgia voters and their experts to inspect copies of 147,000 mail-in ballots cast in light of their evidence-challenged claims that the ballots were fraudulent.

Amero said details regarding specifics of the inspection would be forthcoming.

The order comes after Georgia ballots were audited on three separate occasions, all confirming President Biden’s victory in the Peach State in November and that no widespread fraud occurred.

Rob Pitts, the chair of the Fulton County Board of Commissioners, panned the ruling as “outrageous” and said it perpetuated the lie touted by former President Trump and his allies that the White House election was stolen.

“The fact remains that Fulton County safely and securely carried out an election in the midst of a public health pandemic,” Pitts said in a statement to The Washington Post. “It’s a shame to see that the ‘Big Lie’ lives on and could cost the hardworking taxpayers of this county.”

Still, the ruling underscores the sway unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud still hold on large swaths of the GOP. Polls have showed that many Republicans continue to doubt President Biden’s victory in November despite no evidence of widespread fraud or irregularities emerging since votes were tallied last year.

Republicans touted the ruling, saying it was a step in restoring faith in election integrity.

“Allowing this audit provides another layer of transparency and citizen engagement,” tweeted Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger.

“The integrity of future elections is critical, and Judge Amero's decision is a helpful step in restoring transparency, accountability, and voter confidence. We look forward to the findings and their role in promoting transparency and rebuilding faith in our elections,” added former Sen. Kelly Loeffler (R-Ga.).

In his one-page order, Amero's order said the county election officials must allow plaintiff Garland Favorito and his group called Voters Organized for Trusted Election Results in Georgia to review the ballots "at a time and place to be determined later," according to The Wall Street Journal.


The decision in Georgia comes after a handful of plaintiffs filed a lawsuit to access the ballots. But the audit in Fulton County is likely to come with more stipulations than the opaquely operated, GOP-run audit playing out in Arizona’s Maricopa County.

While Henry County Judge Brian Amero ordered that the ballots be unsealed, “Petitioners shall only be permitted to inspect and scan said ballots in accordance with protocols and practices that will be set forth by further order of the Court,” according to court documents. The judge directed counsel for the parties to convene where the ballots are being stored next week.

Garland Favorito, one of the plaintiffs who brought the lawsuit and the co-founder of Voters Organized for Trusted Election Results in Georgia, said he and his counterparts are formulating a plan to scan and forensically analyze the Fulton County mail-in ballots. He said they will submit that plan to the judge before May 28.

Favorito told CNN that he hopes roughly a dozen experts will have a chance to evaluate the newly scanned ballot images and search for characteristics that could determine whether any ballots are counterfeit.

“The reason that we want to do it is to determine whether or not there are counterfeit ballots,” Favorito said.

Fulton County Chairman Robb Pitts, a Democrat, slammed the push for yet another review of the 2020 election.

“It is outrageous that Fulton County continues to be a target of those who cannot accept the results from last year’s election,” Pitts said. “The votes have been counted three times, including a hand recount, and no evidence of fraud has been found. The fact remains that Fulton County safely and securely carried out an election in the midst of a public health pandemic. It’s a shame to see that the ‘Big Lie’ lives on and could cost the hardworking taxpayers of this county.”

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, a Republican who has come under fire from many members of his own party after standing up to Trump’s attempts to overturn the election, offered a more sanguine response to the judge’s ruling.

“From day one I have encouraged Georgians with legitimate concerns about the election in their counties to pursue those claims through legal avenues,” Raffensperger said in a statement. “Fulton County has a longstanding history of election mismanagement that has understandably weakened voters’ faith in its system. Allowing this audit provides another layer of transparency and citizen engagement.”
 

mooray

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Weeeeeell...if we're responsible, we don't instantly accept anything presented to us, and simply use it as a starting point for our own research, in which case it technically shouldn't matter. I personally don't like the rawstory links just because it locks up my browser.
 
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