Flushing? Thoughts

jondamon

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in organics the plant retains its auto feeding ability. Different than force feeing readily available. Uptake by roots in organics operates differently than chelated read available synth. One has a mutual relationship with the microbiology/roots/soil composition, the other does not. Pretty logical. Can’t over feed in organics.
That still doesn’t prove that the ions are different?

so I ask again prove that the plant knows the difference between organic and synthetic ions.
 

Star Dog

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in organics the plant retains its auto feeding ability. Different than force feeing readily available. Uptake by roots in organics operates differently than chelated read available synth. One has a mutual relationship with the microbiology/roots/soil composition, the other does not. Pretty logical. Can’t over feed in organics.
Let your dog piss on the grass and you might re think that statement.
 

maranibbana

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That still doesn’t prove that the ions are different?

so I ask again prove that the plant knows the difference between organic and synthetic ions.
It’s not about the plant knowing the diffence between ions, it’s about the plant in an organic living soil stops feeding itself near the end of its life. Synth you could feed them will u chop... I suggest you don’t do that tho with synth
 

jondamon

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Mineral salts dissociate, or break apart, in water to reveal their ionic nutrients. Calcium nitrate and potassium phosphate are some of the ionic compounds you may recognize as plant nutrients. Plant roots then absorb the dissociated mineral salts as ions. Organic fertilizers can be broken down by soil organisms over time to reveal their ionic, plant-available elements. Plants do not know the difference between organic and inorganic inputs, as they only use nutrients that are available in their inorganic, ionic form. Plants use these inorganic nutrients to make necessary metabolites, such as amino acids, simple sugars and other organic compounds.

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Still waiting for yours lol.
 

maranibbana

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Mineral salts dissociate, or break apart, in water to reveal their ionic nutrients. Calcium nitrate and potassium phosphate are some of the ionic compounds you may recognize as plant nutrients. Plant roots then absorb the dissociated mineral salts as ions. Organic fertilizers can be broken down by soil organisms over time to reveal their ionic, plant-available elements. Plants do not know the difference between organic and inorganic inputs, as they only use nutrients that are available in their inorganic, ionic form. Plants use these inorganic nutrients to make necessary metabolites, such as amino acids, simple sugars and other organic compounds.

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Still waiting for yours lol.
They do in fact communicate and uptake those nutrients differently when in living soil as they do not take what they do not need
 

Creature1969

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No, it removes viable minerals and nutrients from the medium and forces the plant to pull from its reserves from being over fed.
So it does nothing for the buds or the final product, possibly resulting in deficiencies of immobile nutrients.
So again, how are you helping anyone?
Same ol' same. Called out on BS bro-science "popping and ash" so change the argument
 

maranibbana

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So it does nothing for the buds or the final product, possibly resulting in deficiencies of immobile nutrients.
So again, how are you helping anyone?
Same ol' same. Called out on BS bro-science "popping and ash" so change the argument
In a scenario where someone has too many salts in their medium and they are nearing the last two weeks of their grow, the discoloration from a flush and making the plant pull form its reserves is welcomed
 

jondamon

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In a scenario where someone has too many salts in their medium and they are nearing the last two weeks of their grow, the discoloration from a flush and making the plant pull form its reserves is welcomed
And if you supply your living soil with the ability to convert N into ionic form during the end of flowering your plants will not turn into rainbow coloured plants.
 
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