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qwizoking
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Stuffs pretty cool. AND legal.
It is less potent just slightly. Not as fulfilling being only thc also. But it causes much less anxiety. Perfect for like work use.
And when used as an edible it still converts to a more potent 11 hydroxy d8 that is more potent than traditional thc.
It is less potent just slightly. Not as fulfilling being only thc also. But it causes much less anxiety. Perfect for like work use.
And when used as an edible it still converts to a more potent 11 hydroxy d8 that is more potent than traditional thc.
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BobCajun
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Oops, I did it again, I made another pancake, this one quite large. By letting the plants hang for 24 hours the volume was reduced enough that I could stuff the whole batch into a single gallon size spring water bottle with the bottom cut off as a dripping column. The amount would have been about a pound if dried, based on prior batches that I did dry. This pancake weighs about 75 grams and is 4" across at the widest part.
I got a better yield than I did with my earlier strain. This one here is called Cherry Pie, by Female Seeds. Doesn't smell particularly like cherry pie but does produce a good amount of resin and does have a sweet smell in early flower. No idea what is smells like dry, I never dried any, nor should anyone else dry their weed unless they like smoking plant material and they want the potency reduced from hanging out in the air for about a week.
The parchment is over an 8" glass plate I use in the manufacturing process. Nobody else will ever make a pancake like this because it's labor intensive and is rather complicated to do. You have to be a true resin artist to make primo pancakes, I doubt it could be done on a large scale like the gross looking stuff they crank out for dispensaries that they call "live resin". This is close to live, just wilted to reduce volume like I said earlier. By the way, the bud harvesting procedure is to wear a rubber glove and pull my hand from the bottom of a branch to the end, stripping everything off. I pick off the large leaves while the plants are hanging. Stripping is a lot quicker than scissoring the buds off individually, that's for suckers. Actually manicuring buds is for hardcore suckers.
For those who haven't seen my earlier posts, the pancakes are solid, they pancake out at first when I put the blob on there right after making the extract, which is done with iso in freezer conditions, and then it sets up solid over the next several hours.
I got a better yield than I did with my earlier strain. This one here is called Cherry Pie, by Female Seeds. Doesn't smell particularly like cherry pie but does produce a good amount of resin and does have a sweet smell in early flower. No idea what is smells like dry, I never dried any, nor should anyone else dry their weed unless they like smoking plant material and they want the potency reduced from hanging out in the air for about a week.
The parchment is over an 8" glass plate I use in the manufacturing process. Nobody else will ever make a pancake like this because it's labor intensive and is rather complicated to do. You have to be a true resin artist to make primo pancakes, I doubt it could be done on a large scale like the gross looking stuff they crank out for dispensaries that they call "live resin". This is close to live, just wilted to reduce volume like I said earlier. By the way, the bud harvesting procedure is to wear a rubber glove and pull my hand from the bottom of a branch to the end, stripping everything off. I pick off the large leaves while the plants are hanging. Stripping is a lot quicker than scissoring the buds off individually, that's for suckers. Actually manicuring buds is for hardcore suckers.
For those who haven't seen my earlier posts, the pancakes are solid, they pancake out at first when I put the blob on there right after making the extract, which is done with iso in freezer conditions, and then it sets up solid over the next several hours.
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Thundercat
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looks dank!~
Muad' Dib
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It is. Aromas are very cheesy with a touch of gas.. Not one of my favourites but not bad. Surprised me the quantity of hash she returns to me after wash her. As well i found landed in 160 almost the same quantity than in 120, but dirty, there were some pieces os leaf... And i didn't put 90 between 73 and 120 so, the conclusión its that this strain make a bunch of glands over 73, i'd say mostly glands are in the range 90 to 120.
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Muad' Dib
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This one it's from Maroc, native strain Beldia. They use to dry the plants and then sift all through 4 screens, this one were probably re-filtered by one more screen because it's so clean.
This is the kind of stuff you can smoke all long day, it doesn't hit too much and allows to lead a normal life without staying all the time in the fog. It's amazing, old school terps and a sweety aftertaste. I like it much more than the Roquefort OG one.
This is the kind of stuff you can smoke all long day, it doesn't hit too much and allows to lead a normal life without staying all the time in the fog. It's amazing, old school terps and a sweety aftertaste. I like it much more than the Roquefort OG one.
BobCajun
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That resin cake I made last time didn't turn out quite right, it didn't solidify completely, I guess it still had too much moisture in it. It's not easy to get resin to solidify properly. I did get a small amount to solidify perfectly but then the rest never did work so I decarbed it instead. I think I should have heated the water when I washed the extract, instad of mixing it at room temp, which mixes the water in too much. When you heat the water in the microwave the resin melts and forms into blobs, so the water separates from it and you can then cool it to remove most of the water. Most people wouldn't bother washing it but I do.
To decarb extract I put it in a microwave at low setting for 90 minutes. It really does take that long, you can tell when it's done by the bubbling stopping almost completely. There's no burnt smell or anything, that only happens at higher temperatures, which is why you use the lowest setting. It turns kind of reddish and gets more transparent. I tried 250 mg of it mixed with olive oil and it was too much, probably 100 mg would be plenty. Here's a pic of the small piece that solidified properly, it was about 2 grams. I had to melt it in the microwave and stir it around until it started to set, the stirring helps to start the crystallization. I put a USB drive for scale.
To decarb extract I put it in a microwave at low setting for 90 minutes. It really does take that long, you can tell when it's done by the bubbling stopping almost completely. There's no burnt smell or anything, that only happens at higher temperatures, which is why you use the lowest setting. It turns kind of reddish and gets more transparent. I tried 250 mg of it mixed with olive oil and it was too much, probably 100 mg would be plenty. Here's a pic of the small piece that solidified properly, it was about 2 grams. I had to melt it in the microwave and stir it around until it started to set, the stirring helps to start the crystallization. I put a USB drive for scale.
BobCajun
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Pile of resin chips scraped off glass container.
After melting in microwave, stirring and cooling. Looks a little rough because I didn't completely melt it, just got it partially melted and then mixed the rest of the chips into it. One part in the middle will liquefy and bubble while the rest is unmelted.
Final cookie, 30 grams, I still have the other half of the extraction batch to do, which was from about a pound if dried, but of course I didn't dry it, just let it hang for 24 hours to reduce volume. Not the prettiest but it wasn't made to look at. By the way, I was reading a few of the earlier posts and one person was talking about d8, which is made from hemp waste. He said it was $2/gram. Guess there goes the commercial Cannabis market, at least for extracts. Oh well, it was vastly over-priced anyway. $2/g for extract would be about $12/oz for herbal Cannabis, if it was 20% THC. They'll either have to make it the same legality as THC or a whole lot of Cannabis producers will be going under. Good opportunity to short cannabis stocks I guess. Yeah I know this looks like a cow patty, but whatever. If anybody else wants to do the water dropout method like I do instead or evaporation, I found that after 3 days of sitting in the fridge the water is still milky, but after 4 days it's a lot clearer so more dropped out, haven't tried 5 days yet, I think 4 would do though, couldn't be much more in there.
After melting in microwave, stirring and cooling. Looks a little rough because I didn't completely melt it, just got it partially melted and then mixed the rest of the chips into it. One part in the middle will liquefy and bubble while the rest is unmelted.
Final cookie, 30 grams, I still have the other half of the extraction batch to do, which was from about a pound if dried, but of course I didn't dry it, just let it hang for 24 hours to reduce volume. Not the prettiest but it wasn't made to look at. By the way, I was reading a few of the earlier posts and one person was talking about d8, which is made from hemp waste. He said it was $2/gram. Guess there goes the commercial Cannabis market, at least for extracts. Oh well, it was vastly over-priced anyway. $2/g for extract would be about $12/oz for herbal Cannabis, if it was 20% THC. They'll either have to make it the same legality as THC or a whole lot of Cannabis producers will be going under. Good opportunity to short cannabis stocks I guess. Yeah I know this looks like a cow patty, but whatever. If anybody else wants to do the water dropout method like I do instead or evaporation, I found that after 3 days of sitting in the fridge the water is still milky, but after 4 days it's a lot clearer so more dropped out, haven't tried 5 days yet, I think 4 would do though, couldn't be much more in there.
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BobCajun
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The second one came out a little better. In total I got 51 grams out of the whole batch, the last one was actually only 27 grams, I said 30 before but I weighed it on the paper before I peeled it off, just to get a rough weight, I weighed the paper later and it was 3 grams. This one was 24 by itself. I didn't even flower that crop as long as usual. That was from a 3' x 1.5' chamber so about 100g per square yard of growing space, 5.66 g/ sq ft to be more precise. I use bottom lighting with LEDs so I get higher yields than most people who only use top lighting.
When the cookie is still warm after the melting and stirring you can fix it up a little by pushing the edges in with a knife blade and pushing down on the top with a layer of parchment over it to smooth it some. I doubt you could make large ones of these at a time though, it's tricky enough making little ones. It works well with one ounce cookies. I had to microwave it on high for about 4 minutes to get the middle part to melt, and had to remelt it for a couple more minutes after mixing the chips in the first time, because it was still chunky. These whiten up more after a day or so because they crystallize more, this is how they look right after being peeled off.
To get the chips, I let the big glass measuring cup sit out in the air until the next day, after spreading it around the bottom and sides with a spoon to make it a thin layer. I didn't heat it much after getting the water all poured off, but I do heat it so the extract will flow. When it's still hot and liquid you can roll it around in the cup as it's cooling and the water will separate into a drop which moves faster than the extract, so you can carefully pour it off without pouring out the extract. That's how I get most of the last bit of water out. There are still small drops of water all over the sides if the cup but they mostly dry out after letting the warm cup sit out for a few hours, then the rest dries out from letting it keep sitting out for about a day. I work it around in there with the spoon from time to time so it all gets exposed to the air. It crystallizes as it sits out longer and is pretty solid by the next day.
Scraping the chips off is easy on the sides and bottom but a bit harder on the curved edges of the bottom. I bent the scraper blade, one of those paint scraper razor blades, with piers so it's curved somewhat, which makes it easier to scrape curved surfaces, it good for bowls especially. I hold the blade with needle nose pliers to do most of the scraping and the last bit I do holding it with my fingers for more control. It's hard on the fingers if I do it all without the pliers though.
When the cookie is still warm after the melting and stirring you can fix it up a little by pushing the edges in with a knife blade and pushing down on the top with a layer of parchment over it to smooth it some. I doubt you could make large ones of these at a time though, it's tricky enough making little ones. It works well with one ounce cookies. I had to microwave it on high for about 4 minutes to get the middle part to melt, and had to remelt it for a couple more minutes after mixing the chips in the first time, because it was still chunky. These whiten up more after a day or so because they crystallize more, this is how they look right after being peeled off.
To get the chips, I let the big glass measuring cup sit out in the air until the next day, after spreading it around the bottom and sides with a spoon to make it a thin layer. I didn't heat it much after getting the water all poured off, but I do heat it so the extract will flow. When it's still hot and liquid you can roll it around in the cup as it's cooling and the water will separate into a drop which moves faster than the extract, so you can carefully pour it off without pouring out the extract. That's how I get most of the last bit of water out. There are still small drops of water all over the sides if the cup but they mostly dry out after letting the warm cup sit out for a few hours, then the rest dries out from letting it keep sitting out for about a day. I work it around in there with the spoon from time to time so it all gets exposed to the air. It crystallizes as it sits out longer and is pretty solid by the next day.
Scraping the chips off is easy on the sides and bottom but a bit harder on the curved edges of the bottom. I bent the scraper blade, one of those paint scraper razor blades, with piers so it's curved somewhat, which makes it easier to scrape curved surfaces, it good for bowls especially. I hold the blade with needle nose pliers to do most of the scraping and the last bit I do holding it with my fingers for more control. It's hard on the fingers if I do it all without the pliers though.
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BobCajun
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This shows how the cookies get more crystalline over time. The one on the left is only one day after making and the right one is two days.
By the way, I mentioned something about D8 earlier, which someone else said they could get for $2 a gram. I searched and I don't see any online shops selling it for less, or much less, that normal extracts, so I guess the US commercial cannabis industry is still safe. Why charge less when you can charge the same, or at least 2/3rds the same, since it's 2/3rds the potency of D9?
In this pic the left one is thicker than the right one, which is why it looks considerably smaller around. This has got to be close to pure THCA though, to crystallize up like that. When you melt it it starts hardening up very quickly while you stir it, it's hard to get it mixed before it gets too solid. I think it depends on the strain too, my previous strain didn't solidify as easily. When I'm drying this out inside the 2 liter measuring cup it actually looks white, not at all brown like here. It's just when you fuse it together that it turns darker. I suppose I could just leave it as chips but I like the solid cookies myself. It keeps air from getting to the inside part at least. These actually look lighter in person, the camera makes them look darker for some reason.
By the way, I mentioned something about D8 earlier, which someone else said they could get for $2 a gram. I searched and I don't see any online shops selling it for less, or much less, that normal extracts, so I guess the US commercial cannabis industry is still safe. Why charge less when you can charge the same, or at least 2/3rds the same, since it's 2/3rds the potency of D9?
In this pic the left one is thicker than the right one, which is why it looks considerably smaller around. This has got to be close to pure THCA though, to crystallize up like that. When you melt it it starts hardening up very quickly while you stir it, it's hard to get it mixed before it gets too solid. I think it depends on the strain too, my previous strain didn't solidify as easily. When I'm drying this out inside the 2 liter measuring cup it actually looks white, not at all brown like here. It's just when you fuse it together that it turns darker. I suppose I could just leave it as chips but I like the solid cookies myself. It keeps air from getting to the inside part at least. These actually look lighter in person, the camera makes them look darker for some reason.
Thundercat
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I'm not trying to be a dick Bob, but I really don't get this whole "cow patty" tech you have going on. It seems like tons of wasted time fucking around with something for no obvious gain when you could have a clean product faster and easier other ways. It also will undoubtedly destroy any delicate terpenes your extract had in the first place. If I remember correctly, you're the guy that doesn't care about terpenes so I guess that doesn't matter to you. But I really don't get all the extra playing around you do with this. I guess I’m glad you are having fun though.
numberfour
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Picked up a Nugsmasher XP in February and been pressing everything I can since, buds, dry sift, bubble hash.
150u trim leaf dry sift rosin
From last Septembers harvest, dry sift was frozen and is taken when needed, usually for making canna caps. Pressed a few grams in a 15 micron bag at 65c for 130 seconds. Loud and very tasty.
Wedding Cake f2 x Kush Mints 11 #10 flower rosin
90 micron bag, pressed at 85c for 2 minutes. Loud and tasty
150u trim leaf dry sift rosin
From last Septembers harvest, dry sift was frozen and is taken when needed, usually for making canna caps. Pressed a few grams in a 15 micron bag at 65c for 130 seconds. Loud and very tasty.
Wedding Cake f2 x Kush Mints 11 #10 flower rosin
90 micron bag, pressed at 85c for 2 minutes. Loud and tasty
BobCajun
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The point of it is to make the highest quality extract possible. Now if I was a person who wanted a crude product I would use a previously existing method, but I don't so I developed my own superior method. I'm not a lazy copycat who will smoke any damn thing, so I'm willing to put the ectra effort in. If I was going to sell it, I might not bother, but for myself it has to be premium.
About the "delicate terpenes", if I wanted to smoke terpenes I would go to the hardware store and buy a can of natural source turpentine (pinene) or a jug of limonene (gunk cleaner), but since I have some standards in what I'm willing to smoke, I don't. I do not recommend anyone else attempt to make a cookie of washed resin, because it's too complicated for the average stoner and they would undoubtedly muck it up. Stick to spraying lighter fluid, or whatever you do, is my suggestion.
There actually is a lot of terpenes in these cookies though, they're pretty dank smelling. As I said, terpenes are not water soluble so they don't get washed out. There is some slight evaporation of them while I let the resin dry for 24 hours before scraping it out as chips. I take it you don't expose your extract to air for even 24 hours at any point in your process, or dry the bud before extraction, because that's what you would need to do to have more terpenes than mine.
Now here's a 50 gram cookie I made of actual smokable resin, something I'm sure you're never seen in your life, other than in my pics. I made one single cookie instead of two smaller ones this time, it worked nicely. I had to use a larger 118 ml scoop to prop this one up. I won't bother posting anymore pics, because it would be repetitive. I just wanted to show that a large one could be made. It actually simplified things because I got it all done in one shot.
PS, I made an error in one of my prior posts when I said I get a yield of about 100 g per square yard and then converted it to square feet. I said 5 something g per square foot, when it's obviously twice that. I calculated it based on the 3' x 1.5' chamber rather than a square yard. It's actually about 11.11 g/sq ft.
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Thundercat
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Dude I was reasonably polite to you with my comment and tried not to directly insult you in any way. It’s really sad you couldn’t share a bit of respect for others and have a real conversation. You talked all kinds of shit in your post but it was all talking in circles and insults.
You claim your technique is special, super complicated and produces the cleanest results. Well that’s just wrong and you are clearly delusional if that’s what you have yourself convinced of. You didn’t bother to try to explain or show us what exactly makes your process better or what terrible awful things you are removing with your tech.
100% I’ve had lots of extracts that are cleaner and tasted better then your microwaved “cow patty tech”.
Microwaving and heating your resin is what is damaging and evaporating the terpenes by the way. But I know you think the small amounts of terpenes in cannabis, that provide smells, flavor and entourage effects, are the same as ultra purified concentrated chemicals you buy at the store lmao.
Really your lack of ability to converse like a normal human being is the worst part though. Because, just like I said before, hopefully you are having fun and enjoying your extracts.
BobCajun
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I don't recall insulting anyone. If you took it as an insult then that's your personal interpretation. Why would I have to explain why my tech produces superior product, isn't it obvious that removing all water solubles would be a big improvement? When's the last time you washed your extract? Never, right? Well, that's as far as I have to go to prove that your extract is inferior and very crude. How much terpenes do you think are going to get "damaged" from 4 minutes of microwaving to melt resin chips? You can distill terpenes and not damage them, they aren't fragile compounds. They also all have BPs that are above the 100 C, which my resin never reaches. Resin melts at a lot lower temperature than terpenes boil. You stated it as if it's a fact so the onus is on you to prove it. Now tell us YOUR tech and let's see if I can point out anything that would make it inferior. So far all you've done is agitate, because that's what you like to do, ain't it, Thundercat.
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