GROBRO6967
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I’m thinking of getting a 4x4 and I read the max you can hit is 2 pounds if your strain is right. I was wondering what wattage I’ll need to be able to come remotely close to that number.
What led wattage would I need to get 2lb’s in a 4x4?
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GROBRO6967
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I done that once. Had 10 duck eggs came back to the uk to find out all of them had died, along with the parents.
GROBRO6967
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I was thinking of a zeus 600
bk78
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Goid luck on your 2 pounds if you can’t keep damn chickens alive
GROBRO6967
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Tbh I’d be over the moon if I got 850 grams. Could you tell me what led you was using and the price please?
graying.geek
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The general rule of thumb is 40-50 W of LED per sqft of canopy. Note that "canopy" does not include walking or work space, just plant, so you'll have to figure out how to arrange your 4x4 to suit your needs. With ~50W/sqft I harvest 0.75 - 1.25 lb/4 sqft, so yeah, 2 lbs would be easily doable with a 4x4 canopy, and sufficient experience to keep the plants thriving.
Hobbes
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I've got a Black Dog Phytomax 2 and I love it, but I'm very impressed with the Scorpion Diablo. Great light footprint.
I paid $2,000 USD for my light (10% off retail) but my friend bargained with them and got a light for $1,600 USD.
Black Dog LED
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The Diablo is on sale for $1,189 USD.
HLG Scorpion® Diablo
This is the most efficient full spectrum Horticulture lamp with an efficiency of 3.0 µmol/J and over 2100 PPF output. HLG Scorpion® Diablo™ commercial lamps are designed for growers that demand both high intensity and high efficiency to maximize crop yields.
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Black Dog does not have a PPFD chart, it would have most of the light concentrated in the centre.
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My question when buying my last light was - which light will produce the most yield in a 4x4 area. Even though the Diablo has a great chart it is still just a 660 watt light going up against a 1000 watt light. Black Dog did some research and did clone grows with their 600 watt and 1000 watt lights - as expected the 1000 watt light produced the same percentage more bud as it used electricity.
I don't know but I suspect the 660 Watt Diablo will perform similarly against the 1000 Black Dog.
I'm still 3 years off from buying a new light, it's great watching the innovations come through.
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GROBRO6967
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Heyyy come on now life’s life some don’t make it can’t blame it on me. Also they were ducks not chickens or maybe swans fuck knows tbh
bk78
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Maybe geese?
GROBRO6967
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Ima do 4-5 plants hoping that they literally take over the whole tent, so working space for me is basically having to take out the whole pot jus to feed the damn thing
lollipop ping is gonna be a pain in the ass that’s for sure.
graying.geek
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Sorry, edited my post; i get 0.75 - 1,25 lb per 4 sq ft.Ima do 4-5 plants hoping that they literally take over the whole tent, so working space for me is basically having to take out the whole pot jus to feed the damn thing
GROBRO6967
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I’ve made up my mind I’m settling on the 660 watt Diablo… if I can afford it that isI've got a Black Dog Phytomax 2 and I love it, but I'm very impressed with the Scorpion Diablo. Great light footprint.
I paid $2,000 USD for my light (10% off retail) but my friend bargained with them and got a light for $1,600 USD.
Black Dog LED
Black Dog LED has been a leader in the design and manufacturing of innovative grow light technology since 2010. Experience the high-power, high-yield full spectrum grow lights that are unique to Black Dog LED, and be sure to check out our grow kits and accessories too!
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The Diablo is on sale for $1,189 USD.
HLG Scorpion® Diablo
This is the most efficient full spectrum Horticulture lamp with an efficiency of 3.0 µmol/J and over 2100 PPF output. HLG Scorpion® Diablo™ commercial lamps are designed for growers that demand both high intensity and high efficiency to maximize crop yields.
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Black Dog does not have a PPFD chart, it would have most of the light concentrated in the centre.
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My question when buying my last light was - which light will produce the most yield in a 4x4 area. Even though the Diablo has a great chart it is still just a 660 watt light going up against a 1000 watt light. Black Dog did some research and did clone grows with their 600 watt and 1000 watt lights - as expected the 1000 watt light produced the same percentage more bud as it used electricity.
I don't know but I suspect the 660 Watt Diablo will perform similarly against the 1000 Black Dog.
I'm still 3 years off from buying a new light, it's great watching the innovations come through.
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tbh tho I’ve seen a YouTube video of someone getting 3.6 lb using the black dog in a 4x4. But since it’s a bit more money I think that’s defiantly next.
GROBRO6967
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Geese, swan, duck all I know is ima eat them after they fatten up
I’ll invite you to the next bbq 
that is if you want to visit me in Bangladesh haha
GROBRO6967
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Correct me if im wrong but there is 16 sqft in a 4x4 isn’t there? Regardless as long as I get 2lbs im happy
JustBlazin
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GROBRO6967
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The fuck i doI guess he gets 5.25 pounds in a 4x4
Boy am I doing it wrong
Maths ain’t ever been my strong point if you couldn’t tell 
bk78
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Everyone does around here haven't you seen?I guess he gets 5.25 pounds in a 4x4
Boy am I doing it wrong