The Midnight Farm Grow Journal: Welcome to the Harem

[2com]

Cool. I actually have some of that same brand/type of hose, but it must be 3/4" ID. It doesn't say. But a 3/4" poly barb fitting is definitely the "right" size to put in it.

I've never had luck trying to drill a hole in a soft (flexible) hose or tube (vinyl, rubber, whatever). Did it make clean, circular holes? Hah, I'm just a little surprised. Usually it seems to just puncture, and then tear or chew a bit.

 

[MidnightSun72]

Cool. I actually have some of that same brand/type of hose, but it must be 3/4" ID. It doesn't say. But a 3/4" poly barb fitting is definitely the "right" size to put in it.

I've never had luck trying to drill a hole in a soft (flexible) hose or tube (vinyl, rubber, whatever). Did it make clean, circular holes? Hah, I'm just a little surprised. Usually it seems to just puncture, and then tear or chew a bit.

Ya my drill bits did fine. I was worried they'd leave loose torn bits of rubber that would be break the sealing edge. But they didn't. I used a tiny tiny bit though the plugs are as tight as I could fit.

 

[2cent]

Amazing grow man.
Soinds like ur on my jour ey over last 2yrs.
From advanced to jacks to mixing my own.
Swapped to coots living soil and fuck me lol. Organic gives me hard buds not 1 feathery nug so hard they feel packed with seeds lol.
And my yield went up evennover hydro. Quality too shit maan. U shud give it a try.
Big 100 gal beds or bigger.
Run
Bluemats and feed jus water .
Bugs worms n spri gtails soil mites never thaught id run past sterile lol

Feed cocOnut water n kelp every 10 days and bam medical grade shit lol.


Love ur grow am subbed

 

[MidnightSun72]

Amazing grow man.
Soinds like ur on my jour ey over last 2yrs.
From advanced to jacks to mixing my own.
Swapped to coots living soil and fuck me lol. Organic gives me hard buds not 1 feathery nug so hard they feel packed with seeds lol.
And my yield went up evennover hydro. Quality too shit maan. U shud give it a try.
Big 100 gal beds or bigger.
Run
Bluemats and feed jus water .
Bugs worms n spri gtails soil mites never thaught id run past sterile lol

Feed cocOnut water n kelp every 10 days and bam medical grade shit lol.


Love ur grow am subbed

Hey man thank you happy you are joining along. Man it's been a mission. Just trying to get my grow to be as labour free as possible. Less I am in there less I am fucking it up. Lol.
Excited to see how I can do in coco.
I was thinking about trying a coco based organic recipe and see how that works with just water do it in a 4x4 bed style. 100gal sounds about right.

 

[MidnightSun72]

Made some modifications to the rolling bench so I can pull out and top up the res. And also to hold the trays up.

 

[2cent]

Hey man thank you happy you are joining along. Man it's been a mission. Just trying to get my grow to be as labour free as possible. Less I am in there less I am fucking it up. Lol.
Excited to see how I can do in coco.
I was thinking about trying a coco based organic recipe and see how that works with just water do it in a 4x4 bed style. 100gal sounds about right.

Man easy as poss i used to be in every day to do sumin. Since swapping organic...i have a spliff every time i go in grow room... right... i jusy harvested a key and i have 9 spliffs on the wall tray ..man i check water level and tuck my scrog thats it haha . Best bit is it gwts bettwr n bwttwr evwrybtime. Seen peeps grow 25 same soil bed yielding more n more it starts to live.

Worms compost and make food from leaves and shit that drop man ur waste hash trim u feed to the worms again stems too. Lol. Grow soem veg in the bed some help big time free food lol.

Initial mix takes a whilw but once done its notill its done roots ate boosters left behind. Mould is good. I have soil mites man that are my friends lol they greet mw ib masses evwrytime i go in. They also eat spider mites and shit but wont go on the plant less there on it.

There crazy i folded a leaf down to em and they chek it n scatter. Rip that leaf off and they wil swarm it... mental how they know. Amazing and my bud ive nwver bin able to gwt hard nugs.. ive been asked if i use pgrs its so hard it looks fake haha 1 oz in a baki tin and 9 strains on there all rok hard and killin peeps lol

Check coots mix. Its all ya need bro theres an organic notes step by step by thw ledgends themself if u want it pm me

 

[MidnightSun72]

super tiny holes for the dripper


Two drip stakes per pot. Each drip stake from a different dripper in case one clogs.

 

[bk78]

super tiny holes for the dripper
View attachment 4976600
View attachment 4976598
Two drip stakes per pot. Each drip stake from a different dripper in case one clogs.

Have you tested the floraflex micro droppers yet? I’m ordering a bunch this weekend.

 

[MidnightSun72]

Have you tested the floraflex micro droppers yet? I’m ordering a bunch this weekend.

Ya tested them in as far as the pipe seals and doesn't leak and the drippers drip water. In the next day maybe today I'll test that they drip equal volumes using different cups and measure the volume of each.

I bought a couple of Seaflo 12v RV pumps. 35psi. The pressure is needed to exceed the drippers opening pressure. Think flora asks for 15-50psi on pump spec.

when the pump run it's runs for a few seconds pressurized the system, then jsut keeps topping up maybe 3-5 seconds apart to keep the pressure up for the drip duration.

 

[2com]

Ya tested them in as far as the pipe seals and doesn't leak and the drippers drip water. In the next day maybe today I'll test that they drip equal volumes using different cups and measure the volume of each.

I bought a couple of Seaflo 12v RV pumps. 35psi. The pressure is needed to exceed the drippers opening pressure. Think flora asks for 15-50psi on pump spec.

when the pump run it's runs for a few seconds pressurized the system, then jsut keeps topping up maybe 3-5 seconds apart to keep the pressure up for the drip duration.

View attachment 4976665

So it's cycling? As in, the pump's pressure cutoff switch is kicking in (reaching the preset psi limit)?

 

[MidnightSun72]

So it's cycling? As in, the pump's pressure cutoff switch is kicking in (reaching the preset psi limit)?

Yes exactly and I had the pressure gauge on the end the gauge is seeing the full pump pressure at the end about 40psi in real life. you might see a pic of the gauge in one of the previous pics.

also I might add that I wouldn't have even made it this far without 2com's help. He basically explained to me like a little baby infant how drip systems work.


Thanks man I am grateful!

 

[2com]

Haha, I'm learning with ya, man. And no problem.

So, I think, putting tee right after the pump output, with a ball valve and some extra pipe/hose to return to the res on one of the tee's outputs, and the other of the tees outputs goes to the system, would allow you to "relieve"/adjust the pressure in the system. This way, you can basically bleed off some water/pressure with the ball valve (which will just return to the res) and get the system to maintain (or max out) at a lower pressure - which should stop the pump from ever reaching it's cutoff pressure - thus keeping it running for the entire "irrigation event".

Does that make sense? I don't know from *doing it. But there's pictures in our convo, first page, second post. @getogrow too.

I'd think you could watch your pressure gauge, while opening the ball valve gradually, to get the pressure to stay right around 30psi while running or something.

Edit.

 

[MidnightSun72]

Haha, I'm learning with ya, man. And no problem.

So, I think, putting tee right after the pump output, with a ball valve and some extra pipe/hose to return to the res on one of the tee's outputs, and the other of the tees outputs goes to the system, would allow you to "relieve"/adjust the pressure in the system. This way, you can basically bleed off some water/pressure with the ball valve (which will just return to the res) and get the system to maintain (or max out) at a lower pressure - which should stop the pump from ever reaching it's cutoff pressure - thus keeping it running for the entire "irrigation event".

Does that make sense? I don't know from *doing it. But there's pictures in our convo, first page, second post. @getogrow too.

I'd think you could watch your pressure gauge, while opening the ball valve gradually, to get the pressure to stay right around 30psi while running or something.

Edit.

Oh lord. Guess I gotta buy more parts and fittings. To be honest I thought it was ok for the pump to hit it's pressure cut off??

 

[2com]

Oh lord. Guess I gotta buy more parts and fittings. To be honest I thought it was ok for the pump to hit it's pressure cut off??

It is. But it's meant to work like this; eg: It's installed in an RV for the "homes" water pressure/supply. Initially, it turns on and pumps water to pressurize the entire system - all the pipes to it's cutoff pressure (say 45psi). Then, when someone turns on the faucet, or the shower, the pressure in the system drops - when it drops below a certain threshold (say it drops by 5psi), then the pump turns on until the pressure limit is reached (usually a short while after turning off whatever water was being used).

When the faucet or shower is on though, it's not repeatedly cutting on and off.

Also, I've read/seen there's an issue with these RV pumps where too low of a flow (opening a faucet very little) causes a stuttering, quickly on and off. Not good for the pump.
There's another/newer style of RV pump that has variable flow, and doesn't have that issue.

That's my understanding of it.

You could just cut your hose/pipe just after the pump, install a tee (a poly, barbed tee might suit that yellow hose you're using) inline (connect the two cut ends to the straight portion of the tee). Then, on the third "hole"/barb of the tee, install a short length of yellow hose, just enough to connect a ball valve to it. Then, from that ball valve, run a length of hose to the reservoir.

I think I said that right. Double check those pics though, for reference maybe.

 

[MidnightSun72]

Hmmmm so went to Lowe's. And grabbed some rain bird fittings and bunch of "reservoirs" lol.


mane some trays I might test as drain trays.

 

[MidnightSun72]

Good news mofos.
so got the valve cracked abs she's holding 22psi on the gauge or around there. She spitting water back in the bucket. Snd the drippers did a pretty good job. Couple slipped outta the hole on accident.(that's what she said).

The setup

22psi


squirting back into res for test


finally the results

 

[2com]

How's the Harem?

Check it out; greengenesgarden's latest video, he's describing what sounds like exactly what we'd be trying to avoid (the pressure cutoff switch in the pump) by using a "bleed off pressure" Tee & ball valve. (Link is to site that bypasses YT sign in). It's at about 9 minute mark, if you don't wanna watch whole thing. But there might be more context before & after.

Watch Now - YT Bypass

Watching videos on the internet will always require a good internet connection. Video can be streamed in two ways: real-time streaming or video on demand.

yt.zoopid.com

 

[MidnightSun72]

How's the Harem?

Check it out; greengenesgarden's latest video, he's describing what sounds like exactly what we'd be trying to avoid (the pressure cutoff switch in the pump) by using a "bleed off pressure" Tee & ball valve. (Link is to site that bypasses YT sign in). It's at about 9 minute mark, if you don't wanna watch whole thing. But there might be more context before & after.

Watch Now - YT Bypass

Watching videos on the internet will always require a good internet connection. Video can be streamed in two ways: real-time streaming or video on demand.

yt.zoopid.com

.

How's the Harem?

Check it out; greengenesgarden's latest video, he's describing what sounds like exactly what we'd be trying to avoid (the pressure cutoff switch in the pump) by using a "bleed off pressure" Tee & ball valve. (Link is to site that bypasses YT sign in). It's at about 9 minute mark, if you don't wanna watch whole thing. But there might be more context before & after.

Watch Now - YT Bypass

Watching videos on the internet will always require a good internet connection. Video can be streamed in two ways: real-time streaming or video on demand.

yt.zoopid.com

Neglecting my ladies lately. Finished making all the drip lines but I haven't installed them to all the tables. Girls are getting ugly cal mag problems trying to figure out right now.

culled like half my clones gonna be starting fresh once I can get a plant to grow worth a fuck in coco. Threw out my Ph pen and bought yet another one. Girls I've transplanted to coco basically have grown fuck all and started showing calcium def.

Washed promix off the roots and potted girls up in coco


50/50 coco perite

 

[MidnightSun72]

How's the Harem?

Check it out; greengenesgarden's latest video, he's describing what sounds like exactly what we'd be trying to avoid (the pressure cutoff switch in the pump) by using a "bleed off pressure" Tee & ball valve. (Link is to site that bypasses YT sign in). It's at about 9 minute mark, if you don't wanna watch whole thing. But there might be more context before & after.

Watch Now - YT Bypass

Watching videos on the internet will always require a good internet connection. Video can be streamed in two ways: real-time streaming or video on demand.

yt.zoopid.com

Btw I am bleeding the pressure off using a ball valve connected to the tee like we talked about. I just let it bleed off the pressure until I hit 21psi and the pump just kept running constantly. Seems to aerate the fuck out of the water too I guess that's an added bonus.

I still need to decide how I want to secure the pipe to the res. As I need to slide my reservoirs in and out for use.

 

[2com]

culled like half my clones gonna be starting fresh once I can get a plant to grow worth a fuck in coco.

You'll get the hang of it.

Threw out my Ph pen and bought yet another one.

Bluelab combo meter (ph, ec/tds, temp, nice long probe wires), $200, amazon.ca

Btw I am bleeding the pressure off using a ball valve connected to the tee like we talked about.

I know you're using the bleed off valve method, just in case you thought I wasn't sure. I only shared that video because it sounds like he describes the exact reason the bleed off valve is needed, so I thought it was interesting and worth sharing for anyone who might browse this thread.

I just let it bleed off the pressure until I hit 21psi and the pump just kept running constantly.

I think that's ideal. Great! Good job, man.