Indica Vs Sativa High - Is it really a thing?
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Medicated Bonsai
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I can't tell the difference...every time I smoke with my brother he starts talking about strains and how the highs are different... I just want him to shut up and pass the bowl.
Rurumo
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I think two things are happening here, one being, few people actually let their buds fully ripen, including a lot of experienced growers. They've bought into the scoping for some arbitrary % of milky or amber trichomes because it seems "scientific" when it is anything but. The second being, many of the traditional sativas we are talking about take 20+ months to finish flowering, so that further whittles down the # of people who are both willing to be patient, and able to keep the plants thriving for that long. All dispensary weed is harvested too early, because those extra weeks saved by early harvesting add up per cycle to tens of thousands of $$$ in extra profit per year. We are living in an era where commercial cannabis has lost much of it's traditional character due to mass homogenization, starting with the original Dutch gene thieves, and the current meta of polyhybrid pollen chucks > traditional breeding practices.
BudmanTX
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well said....
Nutty sKunK
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Deffo a factor! Although there are times where I’m glued to a patch of earth and can’t be bothered walking back lol
GoatSoup
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I thought I'd race the Superbowl this year to get the cooler weather and higher Rh of winter. I chose an Auto Durban to get it with in the ~14 weeks, and a little extera for curing to have a Surper Bowl for kick off.
Plus it will not grow so tall in my little Scrog. The photos seem to grow to 14-20 feet outside!!!!
Plus it will not grow so tall in my little Scrog. The photos seem to grow to 14-20 feet outside!!!!
Cotyledon420
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Ive grown sativa's and indica dominants...my indica jars go quicker than the sativa...that's because I actually notice the effects...sativa's USUALLY makes me wanna craw out of my skin and my mind is always racing I really don't like smoking it as much...IF I'm in a good mood OR in the "party" mood yes I go for the racecar fuel (sativa) rarely....my indicas calm me down, clear my mind, and make me wanna eat...But these are my strains so they are different from what u may have...it took me awhile before I actually noticed this...so now I'm in search of CBD and THC indica dominants because I know they calm me down...I keep my sativa around because i can't bring myself to throw it out and lose that genetic...that's my take on this
Been smoking ganja close to 15 yrs and I just realized this probably last year
Been smoking ganja close to 15 yrs and I just realized this probably last year
bk78
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Just @PadawanWarrior for this topic. He says it’s 100% true.
Nutty sKunK
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And there you have it
Not everyone is a blueprint human.
Some just Feel stoned. Some can tell the difference between lower bud and top bud if harvested at the same time… and all the spectrums in between.
Some folknoses don’t really even work. Yet others can pick out the most subtle differences.
My point is that we are all unique for a reason.
Whatever reason that may be other than the fact we are a pack animal so one may shine in a situation where another might fail…
Chuck some opinions in their for good measure and you have the topic very few can agree on cause they don’t see the truth
After a few years I got that feeling from most weed to the point I quit smoking.
I thought it was too much Sativa in the bud but then some pure indica I bought was the worst of all.
Turns out it was actually just the thc ratio.
I’ve been doing snaps where I mix like 1/3 high cbd bud with 2/3 regular bud and thats pretty much fixed the problem.
DrOgkush
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Tens of thousands of dollar per year? Stiiizy just pulled 5.4 billion last year. And they grow their own. Soooo.
I think you mean these companies harvest based off window of supply and demand. With HUNDREDS of MILLIONS at stake. With those numbers. I can’t argue. Other than it’s changing the face of flower. Shit doesn’t even smell the fucking same. Take advantage as a home grower and keep growing kill and Great smelling bud. Laugh at every one else. I believe people will figure out where the good weed is at some point.
DrOgkush
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Why don’t you buy 1:1 ? Or 2:1
Rurumo
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I should have been clear, at that moment, I was thinking of a family operation I know of (went to school with 2 of their boys), small potatoes, but they know they harvest early, they know exactly how much profit it makes them. And they quick dry. But dispensary weed is the best! Of course the big grow ops are doing the same thing. It's a horrible, deceitful practice.
Sunbiz1
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QUOTE="GangaDownUnder, post: 16421280, member: 578588"]
G'day folks
Indica Vs Sative High
And I didnt do a deep dive but in my basic quick google search the couple of results I looked at basically said nobody knows what causes each supposed effect, and some things once thought to be responsible have since been proven wrong.
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Dig deeper my friend, also; the foods you eat have an effect. Caffeine has an even greater effect, as it is uptaken through the same endocannabinoid system in our brains. I always find it amazing that cannabis is the only herb/drug named after a portion of our brains, or perhaps vice-versa.
It isn't so much indica vs sativa, but rather the terpene profile of either:
cannacon.org
Medical growers match and choose strains containing the desired traits per above link, which a very short article compared to most on the subject.
Reputable seed breeders have also begun listing terpenes in strain descriptions.
And, growing temps also have an effect on the dominance of one terpene over another.
I've seen many posting here stating, growing weed is easy.
Yes, it is; but growing GOOD weed takes some education and experience.
G'day folks
Indica Vs Sative High
And I didnt do a deep dive but in my basic quick google search the couple of results I looked at basically said nobody knows what causes each supposed effect, and some things once thought to be responsible have since been proven wrong.
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Dig deeper my friend, also; the foods you eat have an effect. Caffeine has an even greater effect, as it is uptaken through the same endocannabinoid system in our brains. I always find it amazing that cannabis is the only herb/drug named after a portion of our brains, or perhaps vice-versa.
It isn't so much indica vs sativa, but rather the terpene profile of either:
15 Cannabis Terpenes Explained | The Magic of Cannabis
There are more than 100 terpenes in just one cannabis flower. Here are some of the most well known cannabis terpenes right now.
cannacon.org
Medical growers match and choose strains containing the desired traits per above link, which a very short article compared to most on the subject.
Reputable seed breeders have also begun listing terpenes in strain descriptions.
And, growing temps also have an effect on the dominance of one terpene over another.
I've seen many posting here stating, growing weed is easy.
Yes, it is; but growing GOOD weed takes some education and experience.
Green_Alchemist
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Thc is thc, it’s the terpenes that cause the characteristics of the high.
It’s not always:
Indica = couch lock / sleep
Sativa = energy / euphoria
Take Blue Dream into consideration; a sativa leaning plant with generally an indica feeling high, which is why some label it indica (from the smoking effects) as others label it sativa (from it’s genetic roots)
It’s the terpene profile that delivers the high into different feelings, like “Speed Bud” it’s a 90% indica 10% sativa, but I get an awesome boost of energy and smoke it early morning apposed to before bed.
I wouldn’t worry about the label (indica / sativa) more so the terpene profile and what’s dominant with those.
It’s not always:
Indica = couch lock / sleep
Sativa = energy / euphoria
Take Blue Dream into consideration; a sativa leaning plant with generally an indica feeling high, which is why some label it indica (from the smoking effects) as others label it sativa (from it’s genetic roots)
It’s the terpene profile that delivers the high into different feelings, like “Speed Bud” it’s a 90% indica 10% sativa, but I get an awesome boost of energy and smoke it early morning apposed to before bed.
I wouldn’t worry about the label (indica / sativa) more so the terpene profile and what’s dominant with those.
Rurumo
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Another point to consider is the % THC and it's effect on total dry herb smoked in a sitting. Say you intend to reach X level of "highness", you will smoke more of a 15% THC strain to get the same effect as a lesser amount of a 25% strain. What does that mean for total amount of terpenes (or other cannabinoids) ingested? It means you will ingest a greater amount of terpenes with the 15% strain. Simple fact. This has huge implications for pain management because THC is NOT the primary pain relieving agent in cannabis (but it does have a synergistic effect)-some will disagree with that, it's okay, my point stands. Terpenes like Caryophyllene have a potent pain relieving effect for me-I've actually narrowed this down through observation, research, and plenty of vaping and confirmed it by trying a product from Nootropics Depot called Rephyll, which is a stabilized form of beta-caryophyllene. It works wonders for some types of pain. For clarity in my example, each of these imaginary strains have an equal % of caryophyllene.
So using Caryophyllene as an example of a desirable pain relieving terpene, the 15% strain would give you a higher dose of Caryophyllene simply because you can vape/consume more of it before hitting your desired level of "highness." I just wish more patients understood this because so many people just have this "more THC=BETTER" mentality that fails to take into account the effect of terpenes. I'm convinced there are MANY terpenes that work for pain, and work synergistically in ways we aren't anywhere close to understanding. In closing, this is also why so many old timers love landraces more than modern strains. With a modern high THC polyhybrid, you are just getting blasted by THC. With the old landraces, you are getting a more holistic version of the plant, and a MUCH higher dose of all of those mood altering terpenes.
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nuskool89
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My vote is absolutely yes from years of experience. My first real sativa experience was a Durban poison. I’m sure there are 100 others even more true sativa than DP, but I’ll never forget that first time weightless bubbly trippy high with zero come down
edit: that being said, I’d say all these years later most strains that come through are pretty muddled at this point and 90% of highs feel similar to me now. But now and again some GTH or Malawi puts a big sativa smile on my face
edit: that being said, I’d say all these years later most strains that come through are pretty muddled at this point and 90% of highs feel similar to me now. But now and again some GTH or Malawi puts a big sativa smile on my face
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Yeah the terpenes and how much you smoke is a huge point too.
I’ve found I usually like the high better from taking 3 hits of 10% bud instead of one hit of 30%.
My first grow I did a couple cbd cheese which are supposed to be 1:1 at 9-12%.
instead of trying to find the perfect strain I’ve been finding stuff that has high levels of what I want and mixing them together. Like the 1:1 bud for cbd content mixed with regular bud high in myrcene and limonene.
I’m just getting started but it’s already been fun learning how to modify the buzz.
I’ve found I usually like the high better from taking 3 hits of 10% bud instead of one hit of 30%.
I did get some 1:1 shatter and that’s what got me back smoking again.
My first grow I did a couple cbd cheese which are supposed to be 1:1 at 9-12%.
instead of trying to find the perfect strain I’ve been finding stuff that has high levels of what I want and mixing them together. Like the 1:1 bud for cbd content mixed with regular bud high in myrcene and limonene.
I’m just getting started but it’s already been fun learning how to modify the buzz.
Green_Alchemist
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Just in local Canadian pot shops, I’ve seen a few places label it in there indica menu.
Either they don’t understand, or they feel the high was better suited there for unexperienced smokers who might complain it wasn’t a “sativa” high.
Not sure which but hoping the latter lol.