Grow-A-Long with Dick

[myke]

It is but you still gotta wait til week 6/7 before they are mature enough to sex. Gradually reducing the hours of daylight from week 7 is a great way to see what’s what without much stretching.

Cool. I got some seeds for this winter and I’ll be doing just that. So you don’t just switch to 12/12. You gradually decrease over what 10 days?

 

[Richard Drysift]

I'm too worried to flip them and flip them back.

I am hoping for at least one boy. I simply do not know after ten years what seeds were which. There were regulars and a lot of feminized and I simply dumped all of them into one jar when I moved.

My goal here is to make seeds and perhaps clones.
I am building the grow-room as I go too.

I do have some 7 year old California Orange but I suspect it might have been hermi stock. I was gifted the bud long ago.

I do have question. What is Ghost Haze like? I picked up some of those feminized as well as some Blue Dream.
If I have the plants I think I do then crossing them with Blue Dream made some tasty sweet that was excellent for watching movies with.
I did manage to make a few feminized cross seeds in the way back and simply grew them out without making more.
So I sure hope I have a male in this group. Fingers crossed.

Ghost train haze was all the rage not long ago because it tested something crazy like 27% THC. Leans mostly sativa so I tend to steer away from haze strains because of the extra long bloom time but I did get to try some a friend grew out. Very potent with lemony/pine flavors.
Blue dream on the other hand was a staple in my garden for years because it’s a good all purpose fruity-skunky hybrid. Finishes in 10 weeks and has nice Christmas tree bud structure. I gotta get to poppin some of my own old ass stock; got thousands of beans here improperly stored. They won’t last forever...

 

[Richard Drysift]

Cool. I got some seeds for this winter and I’ll be doing just that. So you don’t just switch to 12/12. You gradually decrease over what 10 days?

No when I “monster” plants I veg until maturity (7 weeks from seed) and then reduce the hours of daylight by 1 or 2 hours per week. So if vegging at 18/6 I will go to 17/7 or 16/8. Then to 15/9 the following week and so on. Most strains begin showing sex at 14/10. This induces pre-flowering mode which makes bushy plants with lots of tightly stacked nodal areas where budsites form. Takes about 3-5 weeks just for this part but the slower and more gradually you do it the less stretching plants will exhibit.
You almost never see an outdoor plant all lanky and stretched out like many indoor plants get when forced right into bloom mode. It is the instant transition that cause plants to stress and then stretch as it quickly shifts from growth to bloom mode. The suns cycle changes naturally by a few mins per day which you can mimic to virtually eliminate stretching.
Once my plants show me what they are the boys are cut & fed to my worms. The girls are then revegged at 18/6 for 2-3 more weeks which forms weird 3 toe leaves. Results in a much higher bud mass than would have been possible without the flip back & forth w/ gradual transition. Takes a shit-ton of patience but worth it for the yield.

 

[Billytheluther]

No when I “monster” plants I veg until maturity (7 weeks from seed) and then reduce the hours of daylight by 1 or 2 hours per week. So if vegging at 18/6 I will go to 17/7 or 16/8. Then to 15/9 the following week and so on. Most strains begin showing sex at 14/10. This induces pre-flowering mode which makes bushy plants with lots of tightly stacked nodal areas where budsites form. Takes about 3-5 weeks just for this part but the slower and more gradually you do it the less stretching plants will exhibit.
You almost never see an outdoor plant all lanky and stretched out like many indoor plants get when forced right into bloom mode. It is the instant transition that cause plants to stress and then stretch as it quickly shifts from growth to bloom mode. The suns cycle changes naturally by a few mins per day which you can mimic to virtually eliminate stretching.
Once my plants show me what they are the boys are cut & fed to my worms. The girls are then revegged at 18/6 for 2-3 more weeks which forms weird 3 toe leaves. Results in a much higher bud mass than would have been possible without the flip back & forth w/ gradual transition. Takes a shit-ton of patience but worth it for the yield.

About to flip some 24/0
And fear they will flop jaja they arr about 10 inches… in solo cups

 

[Richard Drysift]

About to flip some 24/0
And fear they will flop jaja they arr about 10 inches… in solo cups

Try starting at 15/9 and reduce daylight by an hour per week. You are going to have to transplant them asap but I assume you are waiting to see which ones are girls first.

 

[Billytheluther]

Try starting at 15/9 and reduce daylight by an hour per week. You are going to have to transplant them asap but I assume you are waiting to see which ones are girls first.

I kind of did it as a solocup challenge just to see what i could pull off using cfls.
i think if i wait a couple of weeks they’ll get a bit too large.
Ill be sure ti try it on my next real grow though to try reducing stretch in my tent. There’s not too much head room in a tent.
Very good info mate

 

[GreenestBasterd]

A few recent pics.
Took down the wine gums. Still waiting for chemdog psychosis to fully ripen so it’s a slow staggered harvest for now.

 

[Friendly_Grower]

They look happy.

The first watering gave a dark compost tea.
I ordered a gallon of liquid fish and fish bone meal. My go-to.
The fire is out in the tumbler and the fungus is back like I can't believe.
White specks all through it. Good stuff.

 

[Richard Drysift]

I kind of did it as a solocup challenge just to see what i could pull off using cfls.
i think if i wait a couple of weeks they’ll get a bit too large.
Ill be sure ti try it on my next real grow though to try reducing stretch in my tent. There’s not too much head room in a tent.
Very good info mate

Adequate lighting intensity is needed to grow tightly stacked nodes. CFLs won’t do it; HIDS, COB leds, or equivalent are needed to get the structures you want before the buds are even formed.

 

[bajasti]

Hey speaking of praying plants..
This one is now thrip free but sadly the damage is already done.....

I remember a long time ago when i first encountered a thrip. Scared the sheeze out of me. I was looking through a mag scope at trichs and this thing just came flying through the picture except it was magnified and looked monstrous lmao. Your post just reminded me of that. Little buggers!

Baja

 

[Friendly_Grower]

Ghost train haze was all the rage not long ago because it tested something crazy like 27% THC. Leans mostly sativa so I tend to steer away from haze strains because of the extra long bloom time but I did get to try some a friend grew out. Very potent with lemony/pine flavors.
Blue dream on the other hand was a staple in my garden for years because it’s a good all purpose fruity-skunky hybrid. Finishes in 10 weeks and has nice Christmas tree bud structure. I gotta get to poppin some of my own old ass stock; got thousands of beans here improperly stored. They won’t last forever...

Maybe 10 years

Once in a dream naturally, I brought back from Amsterdam what was a Power Sativa. In this hypothetical dream I also brought back "The Doctor" that Greenhouse seeds sells. All this in a dream I had. In that dream I crossed that power Sativa with the Doctor and naturally I was happy. The sad part of that dream was I didn't make seeds of that power sativa.
That is how dreams go unfortunately.

I was looking at Hawaiian Snow, Ghost Haze and anything else.
Do you have any suggestions?

Ever hear of GH X HS?

 

[Friendly_Grower]

As for Thrips use blue sticky traps. All else use yellow sticky traps.

 

[Richard Drysift]

I remember a long time ago when i first encountered a thrip. Scared the sheeze out of me. I was looking through a mag scope at trichs and this thing just came flying through the picture except it was magnified and looked monstrous lmao. Your post just reminded me of that. Little buggers!

Baja

Never actually seen them; thought they were gnats. 2 shots of spinosad killed them. It is like cement in their little thrip bellies. They get so full they forget to eat and then die of starvation.
“Dem bellies full but dey hungry.,,.“
B.Marley

 

[Richard Drysift]

Maybe 10 years

Once in a dream naturally, I brought back from Amsterdam what was a Power Sativa. In this hypothetical dream I also brought back "The Doctor" that Greenhouse seeds sells. All this in a dream I had. In that dream I crossed that power Sativa with the Doctor and naturally I was happy. The sad part of that dream was I didn't make seeds of that power sativa.
That is how dreams go unfortunately.

I was looking at Hawaiian Snow, Ghost Haze and anything else.
Do you have any suggestions?

Ever hear of GH X HS?

I have not but sounds like a good cross. Honestly I’ve been itching for an old Jack Herer strain myself. Thinking about something like critical jack for future runs; but that’s just me. Dream on friendly...

 

[GreenestBasterd]

Never actually seen them; thought they were gnats. 2 shots of spinosad killed them. It is like cement in their little thrip bellies. They get so full they forget to eat and then die of starvation.
“Dem bellies full but dey hungry.,,.“
B.Marley

One of his best in my opinion!

 

[JustBlazin]

Hey dick, sorry if you've answered this before but do you use your dehumidifier water for your plants? If so do you use it in your blumat res? Do you have to do anything to it before you use it?

 

[Richard Drysift]

Hey dick, sorry if you've answered this before but do you use your dehumidifier water for your plants? If so do you use it in your blumat res? Do you have to do anything to it before you use it?

Yes, yes, and no I use it as is. They call it grey water but plants are fine with it; 13ppms. I just dump it into a bucket about 2x daily this time of year. The bucket has a spigot for filling water cans and a pump that goes up into the blumat reservoir. Put a float gauge on it to measure how low it gets which is just a wooden dowel glued into a Patron cork. Drilled a hole in the lid where I glued a piece of a McDs straw as a bushing. There’s a piece of white tape on the tip; when it dips down the bucket needs water. I can put it on a recycle timer to turn in for a few secs a day to refill it if I’m on vacation but I usually just top it off by plugging the pump in.

 

[JustBlazin]

Yes, yes, and no I use it as is. They call it grey water but plants are fine with it; 13ppms. I just dump it into a bucket about 2x daily this time of year. The bucket has a pump that goes up into the blumat reservoir. Put a float gauge on it to measure how low it gets which is just a wooden dowel glued into a Patron cork. Drilled a hole in the lid where I glued a piece of a McDs straw as a bushing. There’s a piece of white tape on the tip; when it dips down the bucket needs water. I can put it on a recycle timer to turn in for a few secs a day to refill it if I’m on vacation but I usually just top it off by plugging the pump in.

Thanks that's exactly what I was looking for.
I'm thinking of just running my dehumidifier right beside my tent with a drain hose going into a 100 l tote then just pump it up to my res tote for my bmats

 

[Friendly_Grower]

Would running the water through activated charcoal add any value or improve quality?

 

[Richard Drysift]

Thanks that's exactly what I was looking for.
I'm thinking of just running my dehumidifier right beside my tent with a drain hose going into a 100 l tote then just pump it up to my res tote for my bmats

I still don’t know why more growers are not using collected/grey water. I was literally dumping it down the drain for years. Used my house plants as Gineau pigs for like a year and since they didn’t seem to notice a change in their water I figured it was safe. Then I read that The Rev uses grey water from an a/c unit for his plants and so do many other growers.

Would running the water through activated charcoal add any value or improve quality?

I’m sure that would filter it better but since active living soil breaks pretty much everything down anyway it doesn’t seem necessary....just don’t drink it lol