Nute & Reverse Osmosis questions For Hydro

[HighThere]

Got any pics of that?

Yep!

 

[MustGro]

Yep!

That’s pretty slick. So one of those took you from 850 to 100 ppm. I see you have 2 canisters, what’d you wind up at for ppm?

 

[Incredible4Mr2E]

That’s pretty slick. So one of those took you from 850 to 100 ppm. I see you have 2 canisters, what’d you wind up at for ppm?

41 after the filters. I haven’t put the DI resin in the canisters considering it’s so low. I went with the 13 part “advanced” Advanced Nutes line. It says if my water is below 100 ppm I’ll be fine. Shit is expensive as fuck!!! I just put 2 gorilla glues in it Thursday. They’re already throwing roots thru the net pots and are twice the size in three days. I have 2 5000k 55 watt strip lights and the LED quantum board set to 150 watts. I feel I’m going to be vegging for a month at least to fill out the 3x3 nets. I won a bid for a 180 watt peltier cooler for like 20 bucks, a pump and driver for 30 bucks. It keeps my res and flower totes at 67.8-68.6 degrees and It’s working pretty good. I have the pump for the cooler pulling water from the outtake on the main system pump and just dump it right back into the res. I keep my AC in the window and keep it set to 72. Keeps the tent at 73-76 the entire day. I’m looking to either build a screen or buy a nice set of the clip on ones that go into the side bars on the tent I have the one that came with the tent but I don’t like it much. Any suggestions would be great! I can’t wait to see these guys go thru cycle. My first grow in a long ass time, I don’t know if I cut them to short or didn’t let them grow enough. I know I’ll get it down after a few but any help is appreciated

 

[Incredible4Mr2E]

That’s pretty slick. So one of those took you from 850 to 100 ppm. I see you have 2 canisters, what’d you wind up at for ppm?

That’s the cheap ghetto light I built, pretty badass 500 watt light tho. I bought some 140mm infinity fans and it keeps the heat sinks cool. With the ac in the window in the room it really helps and makes the grow work. When it gets cold here I’ll change to my 1200 watt inferred heater in the main room.

 

[Failmore]

41 after the filters. I haven’t put the DI resin in the canisters considering it’s so low. I went with the 13 part “advanced” Advanced Nutes line. It says if my water is below 100 ppm I’ll be fine. Shit is expensive as fuck!!! I just put 2 gorilla glues in it Thursday. They’re already throwing roots thru the net pots and are twice the size in three days. I have 2 5000k 55 watt strip lights and the LED quantum board set to 150 watts. I feel I’m going to be vegging for a month at least to fill out the 3x3 nets. I won a bid for a 180 watt peltier cooler for like 20 bucks, a pump and driver for 30 bucks. It keeps my res and flower totes at 67.8-68.6 degrees and It’s working pretty good. I have the pump for the cooler pulling water from the outtake on the main system pump and just dump it right back into the res. I keep my AC in the window and keep it set to 72. Keeps the tent at 73-76 the entire day. I’m looking to either build a screen or buy a nice set of the clip on ones that go into the side bars on the tent I have the one that came with the tent but I don’t like it much. Any suggestions would be great! I can’t wait to see these guys go thru cycle. My first grow in a long ass time, I don’t know if I cut them to short or didn’t let them grow enough. I know I’ll get it down after a few but any help is appreciated View attachment 5007225View attachment 5007226View attachment 5007223

The 13 part advanced nute line? Did you honestly purchase all 13 bottles that advanced nutes sells?

List what you bought of you don't mind me asking?

 

[MustGro]

The 13 part advanced nute line? Did you honestly purchase all 13 bottles that advanced nutes sells?

List what you bought of you don't mind me asking?

Yeah I’ll bet that was expensive! I used to buy the full GH line when I first started and they’re way cheaper than Advanced. The hydro stores push that on new growers; they make more money that way.
You sure do get to hate opening all those bottles after enough time.

 

[MustGro]

41 after the filters. I haven’t put the DI resin in the canisters considering it’s so low. I went with the 13 part “advanced” Advanced Nutes line. It says if my water is below 100 ppm I’ll be fine. Shit is expensive as fuck!!! I just put 2 gorilla glues in it Thursday. They’re already throwing roots thru the net pots and are twice the size in three days. I have 2 5000k 55 watt strip lights and the LED quantum board set to 150 watts. I feel I’m going to be vegging for a month at least to fill out the 3x3 nets. I won a bid for a 180 watt peltier cooler for like 20 bucks, a pump and driver for 30 bucks. It keeps my res and flower totes at 67.8-68.6 degrees and It’s working pretty good. I have the pump for the cooler pulling water from the outtake on the main system pump and just dump it right back into the res. I keep my AC in the window and keep it set to 72. Keeps the tent at 73-76 the entire day. I’m looking to either build a screen or buy a nice set of the clip on ones that go into the side bars on the tent I have the one that came with the tent but I don’t like it much. Any suggestions would be great! I can’t wait to see these guys go thru cycle. My first grow in a long ass time, I don’t know if I cut them to short or didn’t let them grow enough. I know I’ll get it down after a few but any help is appreciated View attachment 5007225View attachment 5007226View attachment 5007223

I like your setup. Nice job of building your own stuff. What’s with all the scaffolding, building a super grow room?
Great water at 41 ppm. Mine is 55 and it’s always been fine in hydro.
Can you measure the temp at the canopy. I’d go a bit warmer at the canopy in flower, 76-80, but you’re fine for veg with those room temps.
I run the same air pumps, it’s a good idea to put them up higher so they don’t syphon in water if the power goes out. The colder air is down low though so I used some tubing and ran the end of it down to the floor and mounted the pump up high.

 

[Incredible4Mr2E]

The 13 part advanced nute line? Did you honestly purchase all 13 bottles that advanced nutes sells?

List what you bought of you don't mind me asking?

I bought the three main ones by the gallon for hundred bucks for them, the micro bloom and grow.

 

[Treesomewanted77]

I bought the three main ones by the gallon for hundred bucks for them, the micro bloom and grow. View attachment 5008179View attachment 5008180

That’s a lot of bottles of snake oil you purchased lol. Sorry just stating that most of those are not needed to grow great weed. Most of those fancy bottles are just that. Watered down sales pitches. May I suggest checking out Jacks 3-2-1 or even mega crop since you can buy 50lb bags of the dry nutrients for less than what you paid for the 3 gallons and all that other stuff just isn’t needed and will most likely make you pull your hair out. The more experienced growers on here can shed some additional light on it but most of the folks on here are trying to grow great product with the least amount of money as possible in Nutrients

 

[Failmore]

I bought the three main ones by the gallon for hundred bucks for them, the micro bloom and grow. View attachment 5008179View attachment 5008180

Oooof. Somebody made a profit. So everything that says purchased was bought for this grow?

Some of that stuff works for hydro and some of that is soil stuff.

I think you bought 3 kinds of Bennies there.

I ended up going sterile and with jacks tap formula after trying to get advanced to work for me.

With andavned I needed 2 bottles veg and 2 bottles bloom per grow. So 4 bottles at 23$ or so each.

Jacks maybe 3 or 4$ per grow start to finish.

Just my 2 cents for what it is worth.

 

[Treesomewanted77]

Oooof. Somebody made a profit. So everything that says purchased was bought for this grow?

Some of that stuff works for hydro and some of that is soil stuff.

I think you bought 3 kinds of Bennies there.

I ended up going sterile and with jacks tap formula after trying to get advanced to work for me.

With andavned I needed 2 bottles veg and 2 bottles bloom per grow. So 4 bottles at 23$ or so each.

Jacks maybe 3 or 4$ per grow start to finish.

Just my 2 cents for what it is worth.

I agree. I don’t really care what people use cuz it’s not my money I just hate to see folks talked out of their hard earned money for fancy labels I was one of them at the start then once I switched to dry products it improved my rewards so much but I’m still by no means an expert or even a novice I’m still in the noob category but what a difference my wallet has seen since switching to dry nutrients and then there was all the mixing of those bottles it got way to confusing and the end result wasn’t that great not saying they suck it was most likely myself as the culprit

 

[Failmore]

I agree. I don’t really care what people use cuz it’s not my money I just hate to see folks talked out of their hard earned money for fancy labels I was one of them at the start then once I switched to dry products it improved my rewards so much but I’m still by no means an expert or even a novice I’m still in the noob category but what a difference my wallet has seen since switching to dry nutrients and then there was all the mixing of those bottles it got way to confusing and the end result wasn’t that great not saying they suck it was most likely myself as the culprit

You and me in the same boat. Spent way to much $ on AN for it not to work so well. Dry nutes have been a breeeeeeze for a noobish closet grower

 

[Incredible4Mr2E]

I agree. I don’t really care what people use cuz it’s not my money I just hate to see folks talked out of their hard earned money for fancy labels I was one of them at the start then once I switched to dry products it improved my rewards so much but I’m still by no means an expert or even a novice I’m still in the noob category but what a difference my wallet has seen since switching to dry nutrients and then there was all the mixing of those bottles it got way to confusing and the end result wasn’t that great not saying they suck it was most likely myself as the culprit

I was originally thinking about going with jacks. I decided not to bc the AN is ph balanced. I work for a Union, so I’m always a couple hrs from home and only get three, four hours a night at home. I was just hoping to get this system in check and be able to leave it for 14 hrs a day without babysitting it. I’m going to scrog it out, so I know that’s going to take some patients and time. I’ve never done scrog, so I’m excited to see how it turns out. The schedule I have from AN says to add all them bennies. Guess I’m going to run this, see how it does. I calculated wrong on some of the nuts I needed and didn’t get enough for the system for the whole grow. 300 bucks didn’t get me enough for one grow on two plants. I’ll have to do a lot more research on dry nutes and invest in a dosing machine for ph.

 

[Incredible4Mr2E]

Oooof. Somebody made a profit. So everything that says purchased was bought for this grow?

Some of that stuff works for hydro and some of that is soil stuff.

I think you bought 3 kinds of Bennies there.

I ended up going sterile and with jacks tap formula after trying to get advanced to work for me.

With andavned I needed 2 bottles veg and 2 bottles bloom per grow. So 4 bottles at 23$ or so each.

Jacks maybe 3 or 4$ per grow start to finish.

Just my 2 cents for what it is worth.

I thought I was suppose to use them all together. I can see that a couple of them have the very same thing in them with something else in it so it’s not the same. I’m going to do some research on the jacks and keeping sterile. How are you keeping your system sterile?

 

[Incredible4Mr2E]

I like your setup. Nice job of building your own stuff. What’s with all the scaffolding, building a super grow room?
Great water at 41 ppm. Mine is 55 and it’s always been fine in hydro.
Can you measure the temp at the canopy. I’d go a bit warmer at the canopy in flower, 76-80, but you’re fine for veg with those room temps.
I run the same air pumps, it’s a good idea to put them up higher so they don’t syphon in water if the power goes out. The colder air is down low though so I used some tubing and ran the end of it down to the floor and mounted the pump up high.

I have valves on them incase power goes out it doesn’t let water into the pump. I have the probe for heat at the top of the plant canopy. These pictures I just took lol. I let the temperature of everything go up in the room since I last talked with ya. Lost my iPhone, what a pain in the ass Verizon is on replacing a phone that’s insured. Waters been staying at like 69-70 lately.

 

[Treesomewanted77]

I thought I was suppose to use them all together. I can see that a couple of them have the very same thing in them with something else in it so it’s not the same. I’m going to do some research on the jacks and keeping sterile. How are you keeping your system sterile?

Most that run sterile use pool shock the cheap calcium hypochlorite. If you add 0.01gram per gal of water it’s about 1ppm of free chlorine and you can safely use up to 5ppm so you can use up to 0.05gram per gallon of water. But you will need to dose more every other day as it evaporates off pretty quickly. I have also used a product called Dutch Master Zone it’s basically bleach. You can also use the cheap dollar store bleach but it’s sodium hypochlorite so the pool shock is much better because your plants need calcium so it works better IMHO. If you do use bleach make sure it’s not the splash guard. Also there is a thread on here called how to make $2200 worth of clear Rez for $4 if your search sterile Rez or pool shock it should come up. I thinks it’s about the best and cheapest way to go but that’s just my opinion and that isn’t worth much. Those AN nutrients say they are PH perfect but they aren’t so make sure you pay attention to the PH. Once you get a good dry nutrients setup and dialed in they will be stable for good periods of time so that shouldn’t be a problem. Ouch 300 bucks to grow 2 plants and still need more nutrients that’s crazy. Do your self a favor and research jacks or mega crop. There is another decent one called 19-4-23 and I’ve run it before from start to finish at one strength and had good results and it’s also cheap and made by MSU (Michigan State University) can be had on Amazon but cost more that way.

 

[Failmore]

I thought I was suppose to use them all together. I can see that a couple of them have the very same thing in them with something else in it so it’s not the same. I’m going to do some research on the jacks and keeping sterile. How are you keeping your system sterile?

What he/she said. Pool shock

 

[Cousin_suds]

if you do use all the microbials don't run a sterile res. you will be putting bacteria in the res and then just killing them with the pool shock.
you need to run one or the other, not both.

 

[Incredible4Mr2E]

Most that run sterile use pool shock the cheap calcium hypochlorite. If you add 0.01gram per gal of water it’s about 1ppm of free chlorine and you can safely use up to 5ppm so you can use up to 0.05gram per gallon of water. But you will need to dose more every other day as it evaporates off pretty quickly. I have also used a product called Dutch Master Zone it’s basically bleach. You can also use the cheap dollar store bleach but it’s sodium hypochlorite so the pool shock is much better because your plants need calcium so it works better IMHO. If you do use bleach make sure it’s not the splash guard. Also there is a thread on here called how to make $2200 worth of clear Rez for $4 if your search sterile Rez or pool shock it should come up. I thinks it’s about the best and cheapest way to go but that’s just my opinion and that isn’t worth much. Those AN nutrients say they are PH perfect but they aren’t so make sure you pay attention to the PH. Once you get a good dry nutrients setup and dialed in they will be stable for good periods of time so that shouldn’t be a problem. Ouch 300 bucks to grow 2 plants and still need more nutrients that’s crazy. Do your self a favor and research jacks or mega crop. There is another decent one called 19-4-23 and I’ve run it before from start to finish at one strength and had good results and it’s also cheap and made by MSU (Michigan State University) can be had on Amazon but cost more that way.

I have this grow at least to figure out what to use for next time. Thank you for all the advice. I talked to someone earlier in this thread about all this stuff. I found so much conflicting threads on it. One thing that stuck was someone said the weed burned differently when using pool shock and stuff. Some think it won’t work at all lol.

 

[Incredible4Mr2E]

if you do use all the microbials don't run a sterile res. you will be putting bacteria in the res and then just killing them with the pool shock.
you need to run one or the other, not both.

I’ve been told that and didn’t plan on putting peroxide, bleach or shock. Thank you for the reminder