Autopot users: any salt issues? Benefits vs drip?

[rkymtnman]

Having to deal with any run-off vs. dealing with none is not easier

you should see what i built for about $20. right down the drain...

 

[ComputerSaysNo]

You have a pipe that goes to the drain. Look at iws autodrain. Other than that it's all on timers.

There is no drain in my grow room. What now?

Also... that fucking valve thing on autopots is shit. It gets stuck and then you get flooded. The whole thing sucks.

Yes, that "fucking valve thing".

 

[oill]

You guys are throwing out statements off-handedly with no supporting arguments.

Just sharing my experience with xl autopots and coco. I did 6 runs. Did ok.... just lots of hassle and flushing....

 

[ComputerSaysNo]

you should see what i built for about $20. right down the drain...

I have no drain in my grow room.

 

[rkymtnman]

You have a pipe that goes to the drain

i'm just gonna let you handle this moron. lol. my posts are the same as yours but 2 minutes too late.


DTW FTW!!!

 

[rkymtnman]

I have no drain in my grow room.

i don't either. gotta use your noggin, bro.

 

[ComputerSaysNo]

Just sharing my experience with xl autopots and coco. I did 6 runs. Did ok.... just lots of hassle and flushing....

Please, elaborate on the hassle. "Lots of hassle and flushing" sounds like a regular grow to me.

You did 6 runs, that's about 18 months of growing, seriously a lot of experience with the system. I'd like to know what went wrong and what did make you switch to a different system.

I've seen quite a few postings now here regaring the AutoPot, and they always say something vague like "problems", "build-up", "hassle". That might as well somebody talking about RDWC or anything related to growing, really.

 

[oill]

I have no drain in my grow room.

Yeah me neither... im in a loft... my pipe goes out into the gutter.... the autodrain PUMPS the water away. Its called a drain brain.


If yoir amending coco and then just using water you might aswell just use soil.

 

[ComputerSaysNo]

Yeah me neither... im in a loft... my pipe goes out into the gutter.... the autodrain PUMPS the water away. Its called a drain brain.

A pipe into a gutter is a drain.

If yoir amending coco and then just using water you might aswell just use soil.

No, because coco has special draining and air holding capacity.

It's not just "all the same". I wish it was that simple and easy, too.

 

[oill]

Please, elaborate on the hassle. "Lots of hassle and flushing" sounds like a regular grow to me.

You did 6 runs, that's about 18 months of growing, seriously a lot of experience with the system. I'd like to know what went wrong and what did make you switch to a different system.

I've seen quite a few postings now here regaring the AutoPot, and they always say something vague like "problems", "build-up", "hassle". That might as well somebody talking about RDWC or anything related to growing, really.

Jesus....

Salt build up and ph issues. Because coco needs a flow of water to maintain the correct ph, nute levels and bring fresh oxygen to the roots. Because the autopots don't have anywhere to drain you have to remove the plants and take them into the bathroom or elsewhere to flush..... so you can't trellis.

Now I use dtw the plants stay where they are meant to be and I can trellis. If I get salt build up i just adjust my timer to rune for longer each day.

I can also feed strong.... unlike your plan to just feed water.

 

[rkymtnman]

Please, elaborate on the hassle. "Lots of hassle and flushing" sounds like a regular grow to me.

You did 6 runs, that's about 18 months of growing, seriously a lot of experience with the system. I'd like to know what went wrong and what did make you switch to a different system.

I've seen quite a few postings now here regaring the AutoPot, and they always say something vague like "problems", "build-up", "hassle". That might as well somebody talking about RDWC or anything related to growing, really.

sorry man but you gotta face facts. DTW is far superior to wick feeding.

here answer this for me:
day 1 my pH? my EC
day 2 my pH? my EC

day 10 my pH? my EC.

see the difference: mine day 1 to day 14 pH is somewhere b/t 5.5 and 6.1 and my EC is usually 0.7. every single day even if I'm on the beach in Cancun.

 

[oill]

sorry man but you gotta face facts. DTW is far superior to wick feeding.

here answer this for me:
day 1 my pH? my EC
day 2 my pH? my EC

day 10 my pH? my EC.

see the difference: mine day 1 to day 14 pH is somewhere b/t 5.5 and 6.1 and my EC is usually 0.7. every single day even if I'm on the beach in Cancun.

Exactly... you know dtw is in the prime range of everything every day.... with wicking.... you know its not

 

[XtraGood]

beach in Cancun

Or the always temperate Cuernavaca

 

[rkymtnman]

Exactly... you know dtw is in the prime range of everything every day.... with wicking.... you know its not

bingo!

now if i was doing a massive warehouse grow where the bottom line matters i.e. nute costs, then DTW would not be my choice.

i haven't paid for ganja in 12 years so who cares for me.

 

[rkymtnman]

Or the always temperate Cuernavaca

had to look that place up. been to mexico city but not there. is it high elevation or something?

 

[ComputerSaysNo]

OK, the matrix must have failed because the plant literally 3 feet to the left of me should not even exist according to you.

here answer this for me:
day 1 my pH? my EC
day 2 my pH? my EC
day 10 my pH? my EC.

Sorry, I do not have a reply. It could be made into a haiku or a poem, or a dance, I'm sure.

 

[oill]

OK, the matrix must have failed because the plant literally 3 feet to the left of me should not even exist according to you.


Sorry, I do not have a reply. It could be made into a haiku or a poem, or a dance, I'm sure.

Nobody said it won't work... its just not as optimal.

 

[ComputerSaysNo]

Nobody said it won't work... its just not as optimal.

Do you at least see my issue here? "Not as optimal" is gibberish to me.

Because coco needs a flow of water to maintain the correct ph, nute levels and bring fresh oxygen to the roots.

This is not true. You're just pulling statements out of nowhere, as if they were gospel.

 

[XtraGood]

had to look that place up. been to mexico city but not there. is it high elevation or something?

5000ft, so not super high up. I think it's in the perfect spot in the mountains/hills to always be low-high temp of 60-80f on average every day of the year, it's pretty nice. Definite vacation town. Lots of language schools and study abroad there as well, good access to all sort of stuff + mexico city.

I'd just get a sump or maybe a condensate pump and limit res size to whatever I'm willing to have runaway into my drain/sump system to run DTW. I thought about some sort of wicking+res system but as has been stated DTW is more stable for the plants and easier to know whats going on/wrong. Just put the sump in the lowest spot and use big drain lines to avoid clogs 3/4"-1".

 

[flipwon]

So many opposing schools of thought. I guess its unanimous that dtw is better for the plant, but by how much seems to be up in the air. I wonder what sort of tangible difference there is.

If only I had unlimited space.. and money.. would be a fun test.