Lordhooha
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Hitting his wallet is the best thing to do.
Input from experienced growers?
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I know it sounds dumb but The thing is I’ve seen this go down with mold before with others and the landlord wasn’t held accountable for shit. Theres really no law atleast in Ohio to the amount of mold spores or even mold presence in house but I may have a case. I should go see my doctor and explain these symptoms that may be due to mold exposure. I’ll get a good spore test kit and then hit the landlord hard with it. I’d like to break his neck
Lordhooha
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There are building codes they have to adhere to. If a building inspector comes in and sees everything wrong he has a legal obligation to report it to the city and they have to fix it or shut it down.
Drop That Sound
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That does sound like mycotoxin symptoms. You know for sure when you leave for a few days and start feeling better. Then come back home, and feel a major crash. Brainfog, fatigue, insomnia, allergies, night sweats, heart palpitations, bursts of anger like bi polar..
You go to 10 different docs and all of them will tell you your fine.
You have to specifically ask for special $600 mold tests using your shit or they won't believe you. If the test doesn't pick it up your screwed, which can happen too.
The landlord really doesn't want people in a moldy home getting sick, but you almost can't blame them for covering it up if they do know. Your talking having the house condemned, and either repaired by guys in bio hazard suits for 50+k, or completely rebuilding the house. No landlord can afford that even if they have 30 properties. The law kind of makes it that way too. Building codes are BS. It's not talked about at all and covered up by the gov.
Like I said 1/2 the houses have mold in some form or another ( I did kitchen countertops and bathroom remodels for 16 years), which means 1/2 the houses in the US need to be torn down to take care of it the right way. Even in dry climates, the flash flooding ruins homes.
75% of people have a gene that makes them less susceptible to the toxins, so the last few families probably didn't have a problem living there. Same with family or guests that come to your moldy home. That adds to the landlord feeling like the new tenant might be crazy, but I'm sure they have a gut feeling too.
You know something is off and your intuition knows its mold. All I can say is i believe you 100%. Rip the carpet up and you'll probably find the water damage. I woke up in a rage and punched a hole in the bathroom shower wall, as if my dream led me right to the source. Sure enough, black mold.
I'm sure you could work something out with the lord that doesn't involve low vibes and fighting. Do the test, and show him the proof via letter. That gives you the right to have the biohazard guys come out unless he does, which neither of you can afford, unless you sue the shit out of them. You'll have to show that you been living in a different place too, or it will look like you are staying there on purpose trying to get sick if you do.
At the end of the day, it's just a sad part of life, and neither of you want to really deal with it. Either way you should have a way out without breaking agreements. If they give you shit then ya, do what you gotta do to get that money back.
You go to 10 different docs and all of them will tell you your fine.
You have to specifically ask for special $600 mold tests using your shit or they won't believe you. If the test doesn't pick it up your screwed, which can happen too.
The landlord really doesn't want people in a moldy home getting sick, but you almost can't blame them for covering it up if they do know. Your talking having the house condemned, and either repaired by guys in bio hazard suits for 50+k, or completely rebuilding the house. No landlord can afford that even if they have 30 properties. The law kind of makes it that way too. Building codes are BS. It's not talked about at all and covered up by the gov.
Like I said 1/2 the houses have mold in some form or another ( I did kitchen countertops and bathroom remodels for 16 years), which means 1/2 the houses in the US need to be torn down to take care of it the right way. Even in dry climates, the flash flooding ruins homes.
75% of people have a gene that makes them less susceptible to the toxins, so the last few families probably didn't have a problem living there. Same with family or guests that come to your moldy home. That adds to the landlord feeling like the new tenant might be crazy, but I'm sure they have a gut feeling too.
You know something is off and your intuition knows its mold. All I can say is i believe you 100%. Rip the carpet up and you'll probably find the water damage. I woke up in a rage and punched a hole in the bathroom shower wall, as if my dream led me right to the source. Sure enough, black mold.
I'm sure you could work something out with the lord that doesn't involve low vibes and fighting. Do the test, and show him the proof via letter. That gives you the right to have the biohazard guys come out unless he does, which neither of you can afford, unless you sue the shit out of them. You'll have to show that you been living in a different place too, or it will look like you are staying there on purpose trying to get sick if you do.
At the end of the day, it's just a sad part of life, and neither of you want to really deal with it. Either way you should have a way out without breaking agreements. If they give you shit then ya, do what you gotta do to get that money back.
twentyeight.threefive
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Starting a fight with your landlord while you are attempting to grow isn't the smartest thing either. Whether in a legal state or not it's the property owners discretion on whether he allows you to or not. Most wouldn't allow it.
70's natureboy
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Then we are back to mold is in the air everywhere. There is only so much you can do. This thread has got me thinking because since I moved my grow down in the cellar the smell isn't as strong as it used to be. I get some bud rot now and then on the big colas if I don't pay attention to the humidity. Last week I unplugged my dehumidifier because I needed the outlet then I forgot to plug it back in for a week. My dank plants don't smell as dank now. Even though I don't see any mold I have a nagging suspicion there may be mold spores hiding in the buds. I don't allow any wood or cardboard in my cellar. Everything down there is either metal or plastic. My gf did sneak a few cardboard boxes down there and I am giving them the side eye.
This thread has me thinking about HEPA filters and ozone generators now. I think the cheapest fastest thing to do is buy a microscope and really really examine some buds for mold spores. If I had a weed testing facility close to me I would love to get some tested. I don't know how sensitive the cheap mold testing kits are but probably can't pick up a very light mold condition. Growing killer weed used to be so easy, now my smoke isn't as flavorful as it used to be. I feel your pain. Even though my cellar is very clean and seems mold free, I have got to find a way to get my grow back upstairs. I need to learn more about mold testing.
This thread has me thinking about HEPA filters and ozone generators now. I think the cheapest fastest thing to do is buy a microscope and really really examine some buds for mold spores. If I had a weed testing facility close to me I would love to get some tested. I don't know how sensitive the cheap mold testing kits are but probably can't pick up a very light mold condition. Growing killer weed used to be so easy, now my smoke isn't as flavorful as it used to be. I feel your pain. Even though my cellar is very clean and seems mold free, I have got to find a way to get my grow back upstairs. I need to learn more about mold testing.
Lordhooha
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No but considering the dangers of the dwelling it’s far too hazardous to people. Landlords need to be held accountable. When I was in the military and up in Washington state there was black mold in the walls and he refused to fix it so I reported it and got my deposit back before I moved out.
Kerowacked
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HEPA is a bandaid, but a very good bandaid. Plus in the growroom they double as the fan for airflow. You can see a difference in air quality in 24 hours in your living area. OEM Filters are expensive but i buy aftermarket online for around half price. Strongly recommend immediately.
right. The grow is taken down.
I feel you man. The smell suddenly lowering in flower I’ve found to be associated with mold. Cellar is probably a great place for it. I’ve ordered some mold testing kits to test surfaces and the air. You send them to a lab and they tell you the types of mold and the level of mold spores in the air. The flavor of the bud, once dry and a period of time becomes bland and lightly musty. Before all the way dried and cured it’s a really strong bad taste
Oem filters? I’ll have to look them up. Does it remove VOCs? I want to get these spores and get vocs. I don’t want to breath in mycotoxins
hotrodharley
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Be prepared to move
Right. Odds are He’s not gonna fix the shit and there’s really nothing I can do to force him short of emptying out the rest of my bank account and go looking for money I don’t have to go to court Or do you mean something else by be prepared to move?
hotrodharley
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No I mean he'll probably force you out so he can "repair" everything and immediately rent it back out. People who are into being landlords are assholes by default I believe. We were talking sulfur burners on another post. You might read about using them.
That would be nice and he could give my 6000$ back for rest of 6 months rent I’ve already payed in advance and the the deposits. I see that being a hassle too. Idk man. I’m torn between making this an issue with him and getting hepa filters and ozone/ hydroxyl generators for the house and riding it out til June. They are definitely most all assholes by default
I think I’m having issues with mycotoxin exposure. Like the guy above mentioned, I’m having a ton of symptoms. Shortness of breath. Constant pressure in my head. Racing heart occasionally. Sinuses irritated. Eyes burning a little. Memory is totally fucked. It’s like living in a fog. It’s all spot on
hotrodharley
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My ex turned into a lung patient the week we moved into a rental that turned out to be filled with black mold. Despite moving she got better but never the same after that.
Wow man. That’s really sad and the sick part is the landlord probably knew. This place is just a big turd. Loved it when I moved in. Great view of the lake from my upstairs. Quiet neighbors. Nice and big in here. Hell man, I know There’s mold but it’s also the paint and whatever else he’s used to treat things in here in the past. He said the walls were painted over 6 months before I moved in and I’ve been here 6 months. Every time I walk in I smell chemical and paint. The off gassing is insane in here. Not sure where the hell he got the paint. Shit can’t be legal. Lol. He’s ordering from India or something.
Kerowacked
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Original Equipment Manufacturer, like Honeywell. HEPA is very effective for microscopic particles like mold spores, pollen and mites. The activated carbon prefilters are ok for voc’s, but not very thick and need frequent replacement. As for moving, better the devil you know.
I think I may have figured something out and if I’m right than Im really going to feel like a moron. This is a house with 2 units side by side. I grow in a space that was meant to be a laundry room. On the other side of this laundry room is the other tenants laundry room and she seems to do endless laundry. Multiple loads per day most days. Sometime I can smell her laundry soap in my kitchen which is right next to my laundry where plants are. Just a few times I’ve smelled it and never noticed in the grow space. I did save some bud to do some experimenting. and some curing and some are water cured…the well I’m 4 days in. The water has consistently smelled very fresh idk like it could be weed with an altered hint of something like a cleaner or soap. Not the same but altered a bit cause of blend with terps. Hard to explain. Could be imaging things cause I came up with the laundry theory a few hours ago and tricking myself to think it could be the detergent or dryer sheets. Smelling it now and looking back at last few days it does seem plausible . Seems to be getting lighter
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