Incredible4Mr2E
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I’m going to research this a lot more. I wanted to cut the bottom of the tent out and build a 2x4 frame to lift it two foot off the ground. I think I’m going to setup my 4x4 for the next grow.
Nute & Reverse Osmosis questions For Hydro
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OldMedUser
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I did DWC in Rubbermaid tubs for over 15 years but not with that top feed BS they used in Bubbleponics. Just an air pump with 2 - 12" airstones in each tub so all it took was a topup every 3 days and you can grow more than one plant in a tub. I've had 16 in one tub and that was fun.
DWC ScroG is the bomb! Pulled 8oz off that one when it was done and that's just one plant. I use a drill pump to drain the tub if needed but rarely changed nutes even for a whole grow sometimes.
Incredible4Mr2E
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What are you using for lights? That looks really nice, I hope mine look that nice.I did DWC in Rubbermaid tubs for over 15 years but not with that top feed BS they used in Bubbleponics. Just an air pump with 2 - 12" airstones in each tub so all it took was a topup every 3 days and you can grow more than one plant in a tub. I've had 16 in one tub and that was fun.
DWC ScroG is the bomb! Pulled 8oz off that one when it was done and that's just one plant. I use a drill pump to drain the tub if needed but rarely changed nutes even for a whole grow sometimes.
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OldMedUser
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That was some time ago so most likely one of my 400W Hortilux SHPS. I didn't have my 600s then and wouldn't have used a 1000W for that small an area.
Incredible4Mr2E
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You don’t use LED lights? I use to use a 1000 watt HPS. All I had to do was put my hand under the light to see if it would get burnt. The LEDs are kind of a guessing game for me to figure it out. I have a cheap light checker app that seems to be pretty good. I’ve been learning that and trying to figure out the plants.That was some time ago so most likely one of my 400W Hortilux SHPS. I didn't have my 600s then and wouldn't have used a 1000W for that small an area.
rkymtnman
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i use the Jacks RO 1 part. 12-4-16 from start to finish
Incredible4Mr2E
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Such a simple looking grow too man. I remember grow DWC in a 5 gallon buckets. Towards the end of the grow I would always have to add water into the buckets every morning. It was a lot of work towards the end. The way I’m growing now, undercurrent takes time too. I hooked two valves after the pump. I can shut the one going into the control bucket off and open the second one for the drain. I still open the totes every Sunday to shopvac the bottom of them. Drill pump huh? That is how am going drain the grow totes next grow. You’re a genius!!!I did DWC in Rubbermaid tubs for over 15 years but not with that top feed BS they used in Bubbleponics. Just an air pump with 2 - 12" airstones in each tub so all it took was a topup every 3 days and you can grow more than one plant in a tub. I've had 16 in one tub and that was fun.
DWC ScroG is the bomb! Pulled 8oz off that one when it was done and that's just one plant. I use a drill pump to drain the tub if needed but rarely changed nutes even for a whole grow sometimes.
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OldMedUser
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I wouldn't mind getting LEDs but ones that can do the job of 400s, 600s and 1000W lights are too much money. I just got my 600s a couple years ago used at a hydro store out in BC that was selling off used ones from a local grower that was shutting down. I bought 5 sets that were the Light EnerG dimmable ballasts, 600W Hortilux SHPS bulb and light shade for $60 a set. I picked thru the lights to find the best ones and smoke tested each set at the store. Gave 2 sets to my buddy here for his growing but he's not going to be growing anymore so getting those back and the 8x4 tent. He can't grow worth shit and is very sick with 4th stage prostate cancer. I'll keep giving him RSO and pot to smoke to help him fight it. I made a 114g batch of RSO a few months ago and he's taking bigger doses every day. I take the RSO too and it shrunk my swollen prostate.
My basement grow room is very cool all the time so I need the heat from the HID lights or my heater would be going on all day instead of just during the dark period so I doubt I'd save any money on power and they cost a lot to get the same level of performance. I invested in a Light Rail so can get almost double the coverage from the same light and it only uses 9W. Power here is over 25¢/kwh so not cheap. Damn US companies that own the power systems here in Alberta are ripping us off really bad.
rkymtnman
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i know weve banged heads before but would you mind putting up your RSO technique? our neighbor could use this unfortunately.
OldMedUser
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Couldn't have been too bad a head banging or you'd be on ignore.
lolBasically did it the way Rick Simpson explains in his earliest videos about it. I decarb after the extraction by heating the oil to 250F until the decarb bubbles stop which should also purge the last of the ISO out of it.
Basically just soak the pot in solvent at room temp, strain out the liquid then add more to wash it out a few times. I let the liquid stand so all the fine particles settle out before filtering so it doesn't plug up the filter so easily but have a new Buchner funnel to rig up a vac filter unit with. I use a still to recover my solvent and had about 8L to process for that last batch. Once it's down to just the oil with a bit of solvent I put that in a beaker on a hot plate with a heat spreader on the element to cook off the last of the solvent then raise the temp to 250F to decarb.
I just got a new still off amazon . ca for about $150 that will do 12L and processed 2 cans of Coleman's camp fuel so will be using naphtha for my next batch of CBD pot from fresh frozen buds. Picked up a new can so I'll have about 10L of clean naphtha to work with and can reclaim that too. It destroyed the silicon gaskets for the thermometer and outlet tho the lid seal seems to take it no problem so bought some automotive gasket material that is impervious to gasoline to try with this next can.
With ISO it's basically like making QWISO but without the freezing. I want all the plant has to offer in the way of medicine and QWISO is more to make a smokable product. You can smoke this stuff but it will taste like shit compared to good QWISO but it's designed for edibles. I also add 10% MCT oil to it so it flows better when squeezing some out of a syringe. About 5% liquid sunflower lecithin to help with absorption too.
That's a 1gal pickle jar full of the 550g of pot I used. Mix of many strains of bud, popcorn and sugar trim. Also used about 120g of kief in a separate batch but added it's oil to the pot batch.
The new still.
And for further purification of whatever my lab still. Waiting on a 2L boiling ball from amazon but it's taking forever so will use that 1L one for now.
Finished bowl of 114g RSO.
Sorry about the hijack @Incredible4Mr2E
Incredible4Mr2E
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I feel ya about heating with it. If it makes you feel better, I’m in the States and our electric companies owned by some spanish company. Our electric is suppose to go up 26% this winter. Oils 2 times the price it was last year. The world is crazy now lol how do you like the light mover? I’m definitely growing in my 4x4 next grow. I’m gonna need to redo all the plumbing. What are you using for nutes?I wouldn't mind getting LEDs but ones that can do the job of 400s, 600s and 1000W lights are too much money. I just got my 600s a couple years ago used at a hydro store out in BC that was selling off used ones from a local grower that was shutting down. I bought 5 sets that were the Light EnerG dimmable ballasts, 600W Hortilux SHPS bulb and light shade for $60 a set. I picked thru the lights to find the best ones and smoke tested each set at the store. Gave 2 sets to my buddy here for his growing but he's not going to be growing anymore so getting those back and the 8x4 tent. He can't grow worth shit and is very sick with 4th stage prostate cancer. I'll keep giving him RSO and pot to smoke to help him fight it. I made a 114g batch of RSO a few months ago and he's taking bigger doses every day. I take the RSO too and it shrunk my swollen prostate.
My basement grow room is very cool all the time so I need the heat from the HID lights or my heater would be going on all day instead of just during the dark period so I doubt I'd save any money on power and they cost a lot to get the same level of performance. I invested in a Light Rail so can get almost double the coverage from the same light and it only uses 9W. Power here is over 25¢/kwh so not cheap. Damn US companies that own the power systems here in Alberta are ripping us off really bad.
Incredible4Mr2E
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It’s all good dude! It’s honestly just a question on anything anymore lol. That looks like some breaking bad setup going on there lol. If someone wanted to invest in all that equipment, what would it cost?Couldn't have been too bad a head banging or you'd be on ignore.
Basically did it the way Rick Simpson explains in his earliest videos about it. I decarb after the extraction by heating the oil to 250F until the decarb bubbles stop which should also purge the last of the ISO out of it.
Basically just soak the pot in solvent at room temp, strain out the liquid then add more to wash it out a few times. I let the liquid stand so all the fine particles settle out before filtering so it doesn't plug up the filter so easily but have a new Buchner funnel to rig up a vac filter unit with. I use a still to recover my solvent and had about 8L to process for that last batch. Once it's down to just the oil with a bit of solvent I put that in a beaker on a hot plate with a heat spreader on the element to cook off the last of the solvent then raise the temp to 250F to decarb.
I just got a new still off amazon . ca for about $150 that will do 12L and processed 2 cans of Coleman's camp fuel so will be using naphtha for my next batch of CBD pot from fresh frozen buds. Picked up a new can so I'll have about 10L of clean naphtha to work with and can reclaim that too. It destroyed the silicon gaskets for the thermometer and outlet tho the lid seal seems to take it no problem so bought some automotive gasket material that is impervious to gasoline to try with this next can.
With ISO it's basically like making QWISO but without the freezing. I want all the plant has to offer in the way of medicine and QWISO is more to make a smokable product. You can smoke this stuff but it will taste like shit compared to good QWISO but it's designed for edibles. I also add 10% MCT oil to it so it flows better when squeezing some out of a syringe. About 5% liquid sunflower lecithin to help with absorption too.
That's a 1gal pickle jar full of the 550g of pot I used. Mix of many strains of bud, popcorn and sugar trim. Also used about 120g of kief in a separate batch but added it's oil to the pot batch.
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The new still.
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And for further purification of whatever my lab still. Waiting on a 2L boiling ball from amazon but it's taking forever so will use that 1L one for now.
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Finished bowl of 114g RSO.
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Sorry about the hijack @Incredible4Mr2E
rkymtnman
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that's what i was gonna ask. lol.
Incredible4Mr2E
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Doesn’t look cheap at all but looks like high quality equipment.
Incredible4Mr2E
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Is this everything you use? I’m going to need it soon. Where do you get you pool shock, what kind and what have you found to be the correct measurement for it per gallon? You ever use bud candy with your grows to see if it does help with taste?
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rkymtnman
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i think i'd be making some corn liquor with that still instead. lol
OldMedUser
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That new SS still was only $150 on amazon . ca so likely cheaper on the dot com one for US buyers. Has a thumper box too that hooks up before the cooling one. Looks the same as that cooling tank but without the side fittings for water inlet and outlet. Has a few shortcomings I don't like. Only 3 full turns on the cooling coil and almost a whole turn sits up out of the water most of the time so reduces throughput. If I try to crank it up too much the solvent starts coming out of the tube still as steam which is no good. The cooling water uses a small submersible pond pump which is nice as I can set it up anywhere like my mud room where it is now. They could have used a 1/2 outlet to drain better but it's 3/8" like the inlet so you have to fiddle with the valves to get a balance to keep as much of the coil covered as possible without overflowing. Once it's running steady it works OK tho.
They have a 1/2" outlet from the boiling tank going into 3/8" cooling coil which makes no sense plus the 1/2" pipe should be higher and poited a bit down to better fit the angle of the cooling coil, Part of the coil was higher in the middle which causes blockage then bumping so I had to rebend it to have a continuous downward flow.
Something I can't really bitch to them about is the gaskets that seal the outlet from the boiling tank and the thermometer. Made out of a silicon type material, like thick flat washers, that absorb the naphtha then blow out. Same problem I ran into with the countertop distiller I got to do this kind of thing with. As this still is designed for water or alcohol I can't really bitch about it not working with naphtha as it's not designed for that type of solvent. I bought some automotive gasket material and made my own washers using hole punches to get the centre nice and round and the outer edges don't matter. Right now running a new can of fuel thru it so will see if they are impervious to naphtha but seems fine so far.
The lab still I've had for 30 years and got some at an auction cheap, bought some off a buddy and pinched a few bits and pieces when I was in school for my chem diploma. Waiting on a nice 2L, 3-neck boiling ball from amazon but it's couple weeks late already. Probably is on that container ship that lost 105 off the coast of BC then caught fire. Just in line to get into the port at Vancouver to offload now so if it is on there and survives should only be another month. lol That was $90. I got a little attachment to allow me to run a feed line into the boiling ball thru one of the necks so I can run continuously when I'm cooking down a batch of oil still in the solvent. I could run a vacuum attachment using the 3rd neck as well.
This is the coil I made for my DIY still. I wrapped it around a 2L pop bottle full of frozen salted water so I use the pop bottles for my cooling with the coffee can full of auto antifreeze. Tried water but it rusted out my first can.
Still have that stuff but my big glass bottle only holds 4L and the new still holds 12.
OldMedUser
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I can do that too. Made Everclear with my old still and just a sugar mash using turbo yeast. Have a nice 6USG Italian glass fermenting vessel for making the mash. 10lbs of sugar for a batch that gets a little over a gal of almost pure ethanol.