please help me Im having problems in week 6 of flower G.S.C. DWC small grow tent

Drop That Sound

Drop That Sound

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PPM will go up even with plain water when you add PH up/down buffer solution. It basically adds salts too, just like a nutrient or additive would.

Test a fresh mix and see, before and after adding the down. Then you will also know how much the plant is actually leeching, if it even is, which shouldn't be the full 80 ppm.

Sounds like your water level isn't going down much, or is that just since you added plain water?

You should be keeping notes of all the parameters your tweaking, and try not to make so many changes so fast.

If your following the chart, you should be able to get a handle on it. Unless you have root issues or something. Possibly locked out from the high PH swings, and from not having a big enough res to keep the solution stabilized. Could be your nutes themselves too, especially if they aren't hydro specific nutes that help to buffer the solution..
 
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nomoyo

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Drop That Sound said:
PPM will go up even with plain water when you add PH up/down buffer solution. It basically adds salts too, just like a nutrient or additive would.

Test a fresh mix and see, before and after adding the down. Then you will also know how much the plant is actually leeching, if it even is, which shouldn't be the full 80 ppm.

Sounds like your water level isn't going down much, or is that just since you added plain water?

You should be keeping notes of all the parameters your tweaking, and try not to make so many changes so fast.

If your following the chart, you should be able to get a handle on it. Unless you have root issues or something. Possibly locked out from the high PH swings, and from not having a big enough res to keep the solution stabilized. Could be your nutes themselves too, especially if they aren't hydro specific nutes that help to buffer the solution..
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Hey it finally balanced out. the ec is falling the ph is slightly rising and the water level is falling
 
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nomoyo

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i raised the ec .706 with no cal mag or uncle johns. i raised the water level and im going to make sure to kep it at the right level this time
 
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nomoyo

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Drop That Sound said:
PPM will go up even with plain water when you add PH up/down buffer solution. It basically adds salts too, just like a nutrient or additive would.

Test a fresh mix and see, before and after adding the down. Then you will also know how much the plant is actually leeching, if it even is, which shouldn't be the full 80 ppm.

Sounds like your water level isn't going down much, or is that just since you added plain water?

You should be keeping notes of all the parameters your tweaking, and try not to make so many changes so fast.

If your following the chart, you should be able to get a handle on it. Unless you have root issues or something. Possibly locked out from the high PH swings, and from not having a big enough res to keep the solution stabilized. Could be your nutes themselves too, especially if they aren't hydro specific nutes that help to buffer the solution..
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i keep detailed notes. i wouldnt be able to answer your questions if i didnt lol
 
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oill

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nomoyo said:
I am new to this fyi. sooo
Im getting nute burn and the stems on the leafs are bright green and some are starting to bend up wards. im using cutting edge sollutions, 3 x 5 tent, 5 gallon DWC, 1.5 gallons of RO water, mars hydro ts1000 @ 15 inches above the plant,
"Bullet proof si" 2.5ml
"Micro" 5 ml
"Bloom" 10ml
"Uncle Johns Blend" 6ml
"Cal mag amped" 7ml
"Sugaree" 6ml
I adj my ph to 5.7 evry 6 to 12 hrs
my temps are low 70's with the lights on
low to mid 60's with the lights off.
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NanoGadget said:
i can't speak on the nutrients you're using because I've never used any of what you listed, but your Temps are way off for growing under LED. you should be shooting for low to mid 80s under LED.
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He's feeding too strong.... increasing heat (whilst correct) will only add to the problem....

Decrease strength of nutes.... then slowly increase the heat
 
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NanoGadget

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oill said:
He's feeding too strong.... increasing heat (whilst correct) will only add to the problem....
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I started the post you quoted by stating that I was not familiar with the nutrient regiment he was using. My only advice was that stated average lights on Temps were too low for the type of light the OP is growing under, which, as you stated, is correct. Being as others had chimed in and the thread immediately devolved into trolling and bullshit, I never had a reason to get any deeper into it.
 
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nomoyo

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Drop That Sound said:
PPM will go up even with plain water when you add PH up/down buffer solution. It basically adds salts too, just like a nutrient or additive would.

Test a fresh mix and see, before and after adding the down. Then you will also know how much the plant is actually leeching, if it even is, which shouldn't be the full 80 ppm.

Sounds like your water level isn't going down much, or is that just since you added plain water?

You should be keeping notes of all the parameters your tweaking, and try not to make so many changes so fast.

If your following the chart, you should be able to get a handle on it. Unless you have root issues or something. Possibly locked out from the high PH swings, and from not having a big enough res to keep the solution stabilized. Could be your nutes themselves too, especially if they aren't hydro specific nutes that help to buffer the solution..
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Thank you for the help
 
dudeoflife

dudeoflife

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+1 on lightening up on the Cal/mag supplement, esp in DWC.

Honestly, adjusting your PH 2x a day might be the cause. It's good to have a +-.5 point swing in PH, allow all the macros to get a shot at optimal absorption.

I'd ease up on the adjusting, just do it in the mornings. 617 ppm is ok at this stage of flowering.
 
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nomoyo

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NanoGadget said:
I started the post you quoted by stating that I was not familiar with the nutrient regiment he was using. My only advice was that stated average lights on Temps were too low for the type of light the OP is growing under, which, as you stated, is correct. Being as others had chimed in and the thread immediately devolved into trolling and bullshit, I never had a reason to get any deeper into it.
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hey quick question. how much do i raise my ec by when my plant is telling to raise the ec? ph static EC went up from .300 to .315 and the water level is falling
 
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nomoyo

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Drop That Sound said:
PPM will go up even with plain water when you add PH up/down buffer solution. It basically adds salts too, just like a nutrient or additive would.

Test a fresh mix and see, before and after adding the down. Then you will also know how much the plant is actually leeching, if it even is, which shouldn't be the full 80 ppm.

Sounds like your water level isn't going down much, or is that just since you added plain water?

You should be keeping notes of all the parameters your tweaking, and try not to make so many changes so fast.

If your following the chart, you should be able to get a handle on it. Unless you have root issues or something. Possibly locked out from the high PH swings, and from not having a big enough res to keep the solution stabilized. Could be your nutes themselves too, especially if they aren't hydro specific nutes that help to buffer the solution..
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hey quick question. how much do i raise my ec by when my plant is telling to raise the ec? ph static EC went up from .300 to .315 and the water level is falling
 
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nomoyo

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nomoyo said:
Thank you for the help
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i just wanted you to know that i had already done what your asking here and its writen down in my journal. i tested the water before and after adj the ph and it was at 80 ppm for reals. im at 300 right now but this morning it was 315 so im trying to find out how much to raise my ec and ppm because the chart you gave me says it wants a higher EC but idk how much to raise it by at a time
 
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