Pandemic 2020

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DIY-HP-LED

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My point is stop calling it mild,it's anything but mild.
Mild only means the hospitalization rate for the vaxxed when compared to delta. Hospitalizations are the new metric that they are gonna measure this pandemic cause fucking near everybody will be infected or exposed soon. That will determine the public health restrictions, the plan is to slow it down. The long term effects of omicron on the vaxxed are yet to be determined, but I agree it does not look good for the unvaxxed. I still stand by the premise that the milder the case and the shorter the duration, the less the damage there will be and the evidence thus far appears to support this.

If they are saying it is milder, it is based on emerging evidence, not on a desire to deceive the public, the more frightened they are the better. I'm beginning to see evidence of this locally with hospitalizations vs reported infections, but it's too early to tell, we will know more by the end of the month.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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What the fuck are you saying? I am not getting this shit. I have come this far without getting infected and I am not going to now. Why do you think you know so much and give bad advice . Are you a doctor ?
I'm just discussing current events and trying to make some sense about what the experts are telling us about omicron. We are starting to see this reflected in public policy. I don't want this shit either and I don't have to work or have kids in school, but the statistics tell me and the experts we are in for a rough ride and boosters wane over time. I try to be optimistic, but I'm a realist too. What bad advice did I give?
 

CatHedral

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My point is stop calling it mild,it's anything but mild.

A quote from a omicron victim.

The Covid I have is "mild". The pain? Worse than broken bones, kidney stones, pancreatitis, and unmedicated childbirth. Not "just a cold". Mild like a mild bear attack. Literally feels like a bear is gnawing my bones. OTC pain meds = NO relief. Worst time I've ever had.
“a mild bear attack” lol
 

Fogdog

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What the fuck are you saying? I am not getting this shit. I have come this far without getting infected and I am not going to now. Why do you think you know so much and give bad advice . Are you a doctor ?
That's the right attitude Amber. Then again, people do dumb things. Like me. I have a beard and won't shave it off to get a better fit with my mask. I won't make my oldest kid quarantine for five days when he comes back from college (yes he is vaccinated and tested negative before coming home for the holidays). My youngest is a junior in HS and I'm not even considering taking out of class. It's a matter of priorities and ranking them properly. The beard is vanity and I'm going to kick myself in the ass if it get it because I didn't do the smart thing.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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My point is stop calling it mild,it's anything but mild.

A quote from a omicron victim.

The Covid I have is "mild". The pain? Worse than broken bones, kidney stones, pancreatitis, and unmedicated childbirth. Not "just a cold". Mild like a mild bear attack. Literally feels like a bear is gnawing my bones. OTC pain meds = NO relief. Worst time I've ever had.
I wonder if they were vaxxed? No mention of that, if you are unvaxxed, I would expect omicron to be a rough ride, just like the rest of the variants.

My main point is about it's apparent inevitability and extreme contagiousness, we are already doing all we can do to mitigate it's effects and the Devil can take the unvaxxed. My plan is no different than yours, avoid it for as long as I can, I'm retired so I have reasonably good prospects of avoiding it in the near term. I also think most of the recently boosted won't catch it at all, but boosted immunity wanes with time, though I think we do have other natural immunity that will kick in.
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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I'm just discussing current events and trying to make some sense about what the experts are telling us about omicron. We are starting to see this reflected in public policy. I don't want this shit either and I don't have to work or have kids in school, but the statistics tell me and the experts we are in for a rough ride and boosters wane over time. I try to be optimistic, but I'm a realist too. What bad advice did I give?
The bad advice you gave is telling me to get infected as soon as I can after getting boosted. Your a sick fuck and need to get banned. May I suggest taking a break from posting and going back to some serious meditation for a spell . You seem to have lost your spirit and your Chakras need some serious alignment . Not to mention some other bad advice you gave me about a month ago.
 
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Fogdog

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I wonder if they were vaxxed? No mention of that, if you are unvaxxed, I would expect omicron to be a rough ride, just like the rest of the variants.

My main point is about it's apparent inevitability and extreme contagiousness, we are already doing all we can do to mitigate it's effects and the Devil can take the unvaxxed. My plan is no different than yours, avoid it for as long as I can, I'm retired so I have reasonably good prospects of avoiding it in the near term. I also think most of the recently boosted won't catch it at all, but boosted immunity wanes with time, though I think we do have other natural immunity that will kick in.
SARS Cov19 has gone worldwide and has gone endemic. The vaccines help but don't prevent disease. Enough of the population refuse the vaccine when offered and after two years, there is still no credible plan to make enough vaccines available so that the 1st world can be vaccinated too. It's like a zombie plague. When that scenario is wargamed, zombies always win.

This is what failure looks like.

I'm not giving up. I'll kill every zombie I can but the fight is on the side of that disease. What gives me hope is I know a lot of people are working very hard to safe lives when they can and find a better answer as fast as they can. I'm resolved to stick with what has kept me disease free to this point. I don't know how long I will be able to hold out.
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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SARS Cov19 has gone worldwide and has gone endemic. The vaccines help but don't prevent disease. Enough of the population refuse the vaccine when offered and after two years, there is still no credible plan to make enough vaccines available so that the 1st world can be vaccinated too. It's like a zombie plague. When that scenario is wargamed, zombies always win.

This is what failure looks like.

I'm not giving up. I'll kill every zombie I can but the fight is on the side of that disease. What gives me hope is I know a lot of people are working very hard to safe lives when they can and find a better answer as fast as they can. I'm resolved to stick with what has kept me disease free to this point. I don't know how long I will be able to hold out.
My root chakra is strong. I feel like I am living amongst a bunch of zombie idiots. Feeling safe on the top floor of my luxury apartment and hanging carefree in the sun on my balcony while the breeze keeps the air flowing .I feel like a soldier in this war and every fucking week I get tossed a new blow and every week I dig down deep to heal myself so that I can return to the war zone and keep fighting.
that’s just how I roll. Others can do as they wish but I can’t jump overboard into the disease ridden pit like everyone around me is.

your strong, you can do this. Don’t give up.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The bad advice you gave is telling me to get infected as soon as I can after getting boosted. Your a sick fuck and need to get banned. May I suggest taking a break from posting and going back to some serious meditation for a spell . You seem to have lost your spirit and your Chakras need some serious alignment . Not to mention some other bad advice you gave me about a month ago.
I did no such thing, I just told you about reports of boosted immunity waning with time, you can read it in the news too, nobody should deliberately infect themselves, but most won't have much control about when it happens. I do feel we will all have to deal with this virus sooner or later though and the experts seem to be reaching that conclusion too.

Chakras are another system of meditation used in Yoga, but I'm more of a secular Buddhist, or mindfulness practioner.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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SARS Cov19 has gone worldwide and has gone endemic. The vaccines help but don't prevent disease. Enough of the population refuse the vaccine when offered and after two years, there is still no credible plan to make enough vaccines available so that the 1st world can be vaccinated too. It's like a zombie plague. When that scenario is wargamed, zombies always win.

This is what failure looks like.

I'm not giving up. I'll kill every zombie I can but the fight is on the side of that disease. What gives me hope is I know a lot of people are working very hard to safe lives when they can and find a better answer as fast as they can. I'm resolved to stick with what has kept me disease free to this point. I don't know how long I will be able to hold out.
Hey I'm for mandatory vaccinations, a hard line on the unmasked in public and support any public health measure that will slow this thing down. However the old tricks are not as effective as they once were because of pandemic fatigue and the contagiousness of omicron. We need a new plan and that plan appears to be a combination of natural and herd immunity while trying to save the hospitals, this is not my idea, but it appears to be the emerging expert consensus. If omicron leads to significantly reduced hospitalizations among the vaxxed and boosted, there will be few public restrictions. The only reason schools will be closed is if the local hospitals are swamped and they will be while omicron burns through the unvaxxed.

My plan is the same as yours and most sensible people here, avoid it for as long as I can, by then there might be more room in the hospitals and there will be lots of therapeutics and testing to catch it early. It ain't much of a plan, but it's all I've got!
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Say the hospitalization rate is lower, stop with the mild bullshit.
Ok it's gonna kill and mutilate us all! It doesn't matter in the slightest, what will happen will happen with this pandemic and events are largely out of our control. We can try to protect ourselves for as long as we can, but I doubt we are gonna get boosted every 4 months, unless vulnerable, maybe in the fall and winter with an improved version of the booster. I, like everybody else here is going by media reports for the most part. I have seen some emerging evidence that hospitalizations are low when compared to cases here in NS, but it's too early to tell really, the next few weeks will tell the tale.

Right now the acute problem is the healthcare system and the number of people out with covid or exposure. When we see how it pans out in the hospitals with the vaxxed and boosted we will soon know more. We should also try to avoid getting this to reduce the burden on the medical system, not to mention for our own health.
 

Budley Doright

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I agree 100%, the antivaxxers should own their decision.

The O2 meter is a good idea. We’ve had one around the house since I first read about happy hypoxia and we regularly check our O2 levels.

Stay safe, Budley.
Thanks man and you too! I’ve got a few issues that could prove problematic. Been waiting for a heart operation since this shit started but I keep it under control with meds and I’ve had the booster 2.5 weeks ago so should be ok. Girlfriend is a hairdresser so I’m assuming it will happen sooner than later :o! Even with me working from home.
 

Fogdog

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Thanks man and you too! I’ve got a few issues that could prove problematic. Been waiting for a heart operation since this shit started but I keep it under control with meds and I’ve had the booster 2.5 weeks ago so should be ok. Girlfriend is a hairdresser so I’m assuming it will happen sooner than later :o! Even with me working from home.
Hey Bud,

I was wondering how you were faring with your medical condition but didn't ask because -- that's up to you. Sorry to hear you are still waiting for your operation. Just saying that I care even if I'm not pestering you for updates.
 

Budley Doright

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I really like that link. I was reading the article on how alcohol causes cancer and that was a really interesting article. Do you use oxygen for breathing ? I am not sure what the fuck is going on out there right now. My husband just told me that the Covid Zar said we should be isolating right now. My anxiety level is back at April 2020 and I double mask everywhere I HAVE to go. A surgical under a KN95. Good call on getting your emergency kit up to date. Don’t let your guard down. Even stepping outside your door to get the mail.
I’m on CPAP (15 years) but I’m thinking that’s a bonus if I get it lol. At least I can force air in lol. Also just turned 61 :(. Your right though re I know lots that are scared to death like my kids, but for me not themselves :(. My one daughter was going to try for a baby but may hold off for a bit, and that really sucks, I’m really wanting a grandchild to spoil lol.
 

Budley Doright

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Hey Bud,

I was wondering how you were faring with your medical condition but didn't ask because -- that's up to you. Sorry to hear you are still waiting for your operation. Just saying that I care even if I'm not pestering you for updates.
Thanks Fog!!! Appreciate the concern. And ya I was just talking to my doctor about getting the ball rolling then all hell broke lose. I’ve got Arterial fibrillation that caused a clot which took out half a kidney but it’s all good right now at a steady 60ish with a pill a day lol. I thought I had a kidney stone when it happened but turned out my heart was pumping a tad fast, around 180 when I showed up at emerg……all hell broke lose at that point and I didn’t get the highly anticipated ketamine lol.
 
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