Piff Coast Farms

Paul-n-Chukka

Paul-n-Chukka

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Piffffff said:
You get midgets after you took a clone off the original clone? This happened to me too and is an issue associated with haze a progeny. From what I understand ag13 was almost lost in South Holland due to this. Clones rooting very poorly and roots staying horizontal not vertical? Eventually results in phosphorous deficiency with low rootzone temp. Here is what I noticed between haze a and c plants. The a type is lowland thai viet geno. They like high rootzone temp high constant humidity. The rootzone likes to be constantly moist bit not dry or soaked. They are sensitive to direct light and prefer the edge. Extremely sensitive to photo period and low lumens They will throw pistils at 18 6 with low light 14 hours Nirmal light.

Haze c seems to be high land sativa. They grow deep roots that shoot to bottom and investigate. They prefer big swings In dry down fir roots and a lower humidity level w more variance. Direct light is preferred but a good distance away. Drop In temp and humidity w lights off is preferred. Not as sensitive to semi autoflower.

Many trippy potent sativas like zamal have semi autoflower traits possibly due to perrenial or permaculture type re flower growth. I think either tissue culture or investigation into the phytochrome hormones will fix this. Here's one of my minis
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Nope . The dwarfs are straight from Piff Coast " piff s2" seedlings that took forever to veg.
If you read back a few pages you'll get it.
 
Paul-n-Chukka

Paul-n-Chukka

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I've never been to church so IDK what thats supposed to smell like.
Now i do,
"Catholic church incense is a resin incense of benzoin, frankincense,and myrrh. If you burn benzoin resin, that smells the most like what the church burns."
 
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Piffffff

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Imo the problem isn't really about the s2 it's the progenitor. Piff s1 is not a selection its bag seed. Meaning bottleneck big time. I would like to self the original brown f1. It's a stack but you could do the line justice and restore diversity by selecting few diverse phenos and self them to each other then make selection and backcross to the brown
 
Paul-n-Chukka

Paul-n-Chukka

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Piffffff said:
Imo the problem isn't really about the s2 it's the progenitor. Piff s1 is not a selection its bag seed. Meaning bottleneck big time. I would like to self the original brown f1. It's a stack but you could do the line justice and restore diversity by selecting few diverse phenos and self them to each other then make selection and backcross to the brown
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Well by saying that its bottlenecked you are also confirming what I've been saying here.
The Piff Coast piff "s2" is not really an s2.
Prior rodelization is exactly that !
Hermie bagseed grown many times over...then reversed to sell as S2 gen.
 
Exotic Reggie

Exotic Reggie

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Piffcoastfarms said:
Hey guys due to forum policy I am unable to answer any customer service or marketing questions in this domain unless I become an advertisement sponsor. I’ll be checking in every so often to check the pics you post so keep bringing that fire!
—peace
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What comes with the vip tickets for Sunday if they don't mind you answering this? I'm on the fence with my decision
 
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Piffffff

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Paul-n-Chukka said:
Well by saying that its bottlenecked you are also confirming what I've been saying here.
The Piff Coast piff "s2" is not really an s2.
Prior rodelization is exactly that !
Hermie bagseed grown many times over...then reversed to sell as S2 gen.
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It's more about permission from the dominicans. Piffcoast was trying to get a clone of the piff out to the public. Those florida to nyc pipeline was in effect from early 90s to the huge bust in 2006. These guys had a completly vertical network and it all revolved around an exclusive product. Extreme measures were taken to not let tge genetics get out. I've heard things ranging from checking for seeds as tgey made dubs, crushing pressure after just in case. Light microwaving even. These guys were growing the bud and getting 560 an Oz off each one!! No deals on bulk maybe 450 to 500 if lucky. For a decade threads were up on every forum searching for, and failing to find, the mythic piff church etc. Whoever piffcoast knows must be plugged in pretty high because he had access to all of them. The piff s1 is not originally his. Doggystyle found a bagseed popped it and passed to top dawg. Jj used this to make the uptown brown hybrid series. When piffcoast came on the scene his plug would not let him sell any of tge clones. Crosses only. I am not a fan of selfed seeds at all. However it was the best option at the time given tge parameters he was working with. I'm not sure if you ever bought the nyc haze before legalization but for those of us who did it was pure magic. We would travel long distances to pay 20 bucks for a .7 when slices could be had for 40 at home. First time I smelled piff I grew myself was a great accomplishment. However piff s2 is not good breeding stock for tge reasons you've outlined. But purchased as a clone can brings many smiles to many homegrown. Here's the original post announcing tge pc3 clone release. You can see it wasn't all about money but also communityScreenshot_20201226-232555_Instagram.jpg
 
Pi$tol

Pi$tol

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Exotic Reggie said:
What comes with the vip tickets for Sunday if they don't mind you answering this? I'm on the fence with my decision
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Check his IG but if you don't have IG it comes with a shit ton of seeds, early entrance and I believe a 1/8 of flowers. Well worth the price tag. Also VIP is sold out.
 
Exotic Reggie

Exotic Reggie

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Piffffff said:
It's more about permission from the dominicans. Piffcoast was trying to get a clone of the piff out to the public. Those florida to nyc pipeline was in effect from early 90s to the huge bust in 2006. These guys had a completly vertical network and it all revolved around an exclusive product. Extreme measures were taken to not let tge genetics get out. I've heard things ranging from checking for seeds as tgey made dubs, crushing pressure after just in case. Light microwaving even. These guys were growing the bud and getting 560 an Oz off each one!! No deals on bulk maybe 450 to 500 if lucky. For a decade threads were up on every forum searching for, and failing to find, the mythic piff church etc. Whoever piffcoast knows must be plugged in pretty high because he had access to all of them. The piff s1 is not originally his. Doggystyle found a bagseed popped it and passed to top dawg. Jj used this to make the uptown brown hybrid series. When piffcoast came on the scene his plug would not let him sell any of tge clones. Crosses only. I am not a fan of selfed seeds at all. However it was the best option at the time given tge parameters he was working with. I'm not sure if you ever bought the nyc haze before legalization but for those of us who did it was pure magic. We would travel long distances to pay 20 bucks for a .7 when slices could be had for 40 at home. First time I smelled piff I grew myself was a great accomplishment. However piff s2 is not good breeding stock for tge reasons you've outlined. But purchased as a clone can brings many smiles to many homegrown. Here's the original post announcing tge pc3 clone release. You can see it wasn't all about money but also communityView attachment 5064850
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Pi$tol said:
Check his IG but if you don't have IG it comes with a shit ton of seeds, early entrance and I believe a 1/8 of flowers. Well worth the price tag. Also VIP is sold out.
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Thanks
 
Paul-n-Chukka

Paul-n-Chukka

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Piffffff said:
It's more about permission from the dominicans. Piffcoast was trying to get a clone of the piff out to the public. Those florida to nyc pipeline was in effect from early 90s to the huge bust in 2006. These guys had a completly vertical network and it all revolved around an exclusive product. Extreme measures were taken to not let tge genetics get out. I've heard things ranging from checking for seeds as tgey made dubs, crushing pressure after just in case. Light microwaving even. These guys were growing the bud and getting 560 an Oz off each one!! No deals on bulk maybe 450 to 500 if lucky. For a decade threads were up on every forum searching for, and failing to find, the mythic piff church etc. Whoever piffcoast knows must be plugged in pretty high because he had access to all of them. The piff s1 is not originally his. Doggystyle found a bagseed popped it and passed to top dawg. Jj used this to make the uptown brown hybrid series. When piffcoast came on the scene his plug would not let him sell any of tge clones. Crosses only. I am not a fan of selfed seeds at all. However it was the best option at the time given tge parameters he was working with. I'm not sure if you ever bought the nyc haze before legalization but for those of us who did it was pure magic. We would travel long distances to pay 20 bucks for a .7 when slices could be had for 40 at home. First time I smelled piff I grew myself was a great accomplishment. However piff s2 is not good breeding stock for tge reasons you've outlined. But purchased as a clone can brings many smiles to many homegrown. Here's the original post announcing tge pc3 clone release. You can see it wasn't all about money but also communityView attachment 5064850
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"Permission" haha that fkn hilarious.
Anyways man I take responsibility for cracking these joke beans.
But you guys really could have named the company Bagseed Coast Farms.
Maybe even be honest about the Hermie history and Selfed Generation of your gear.

Is anyone pre-testing the convention cuts for viroids ?
 
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Piffffff

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Paul-n-Chukka said:
"Permission" haha that fkn hilarious.
Anyways man I take responsibility for cracking these joke beans.
But you guys really could have named the company Bagseed Coast Farms.
Maybe even be honest about the Hermie history and Selfed Generation of your gear.

Is anyone pre-testing the convention cuts for viroids ?
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Just trying to educate you man. Permission yes permission. Take a look at the court docs from 06. This was the not fucking around crew. You know what else started as bagseed? Chem 91, og kush, sour diesel. Your talkin out your ass. Move on. Your just a hater
 
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george kaplan

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Fun thread. These crosses from Piff Coast Farms sound exciting and I look forward to seeing end results posted up. Also, with Piff Con 2022 coming up, we'll get a good idea of where all of these breeder's efforts have paid off and where to snag beans that will give us all what we are looking for.

Any pics of Midnight Mass (Black haze x Harlem Dreams) available to share?
 
Paul-n-Chukka

Paul-n-Chukka

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Piffcoastfarms said:
sometimes one must look in the mirror and not put all the blame on someone else. It’s possible you just suck as a grower. Post up some pics!! Let’s see what ya got going. We know and have stated multiple times the S2s have some mutants in them, but I’ve also posted photos from 3 different people who found keepers in the line and that’s just scratching the surface. My piff S2 keeper aka pc3 wouldn’t be in all the biggest nurseries in the county if it was trash, and that was found in those seeds. I’ve always been honest with all of my gear, and the history behind the S1 is well known. It came out of a room where they only grow one strain, haze. There were no other strains on the premises to pollinate it. Besides, the Piffs2 was my first drop ever and I’ve done tons of different breeding work since then. I don’t have to convince anyone though. If you had a bad experience I apologize but bashing someone in a forum won’t get you very far. You could’ve sent a simple dm and I would’ve sent you new seeds or my keeper clone from the S2s.

shoutout to all the people out there who can conduct themselves like a mature adult and not a whiny bitch!!!
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Pics are already posted. Look back a few pages. But I'll go post one of them on jackstands. First you said ya beans were small.
Then you admit 1/4 mutations and bad germ rate on your test.
Then its about "permission"
Now its me.
You didn't show up until the dwarfs were posted. But here comes more pics
 
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