Paul-n-Chukka

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Honestly, I love both blueberry and ssh individually....but for Blue Dream, I think that the SSH cut they used isnt that great....and they used the F5 Blueberry which is reknown as fucking terrible even by blueberry/DJ lovers....the entire cross is terrible.

I ran JD's Azure Haze (Santa Cruz SSH cut x Blueberry F4)....and it was my first grow, I made tons of mistakes and the plant was treated horribly....i picked it about 2 weeks too early as well.....that bud wreaked of blueberry....it didnt carry into taste, but as I said I picked way too early which definitely effected terps as well as being new to drying/curing that didnt help either....it was the smoothest smoke ive ever had....literally couldnt feel anything on inhale, didnt taste anything either though, maybe a slight haze flavor....but the exhales were of tons of smoke....Azure Haze was the most potent weed i smoked in 2021 and it was picked 2-3 weeks early with a below average dry/cure. Its the total opposite of blue dream. Definitely growing it again at some point when my experience increases. Theres FIRE to be had in there.
I was referring to the original SantaCruz cut. Breeder unknown so idk where you got the filial info.
Maybe you had it from a seedmakers repro.
 

Paul-n-Chukka

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Taking cuts off Piff s2s and now I'm even more surprised at how broad leaf and squat theyre staying. Maybe the auxins will wake up soon but if they don't I'll actually have to delarf for light penetration. Ive always seen stretchy sativa piff so i was expecting big stretch and had prepared to flip them earlier.
 

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Piffcoastfarms

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A few different phenos of the PiffS2, the S1 reversed for the S2 line is a 75 day pheno. Lots of fast flowering ones in there as well as some long ones. Someone found a 45 day mutant as well that’s pretty fire actually. Tiny seeds, especially if you got them recently that was the end of the stock and all of the bigger seeds were released first about two years ago.
 

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Piffcoastfarms

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Harlem dreams. Shit is ridiculous. I know blue dream has a bad rap, but no blue came through in this selected pheno. Straight up piff on a better body. Huge yields 85 days flower time and knockout potency. If you want the longer flowering ones grab the midnight mass which is essentially a black haze bx using this.
 

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Paul-n-Chukka

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Still not getting any stretch from these Piff fems.
They're like the ogkb of haze I'm not fkn kidding.
If they are indeed haze lol.

Maybe if PCF comes back he can tell me if/what could've spewed random pollen ...
 

Piffcoastfarms

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Still not getting any stretch from these Piff fems.
They're like the ogkb of haze I'm not fkn kidding.
If they are indeed haze lol.

Maybe if PCF comes back he can tell me if/what could've spewed random pollen ...
lolol, the PiffS1 pheno used for the reversal is more NL dom in structure but retains a lot of the piffy terps. That’s how we got the flowering time down for this line

If you want longer flowering crazy stretching ones, try the midnight mass or some of the others dropping soon like the Audubon gold x Harlem dreams or the brown haze x Harlem dreams
 

Paul-n-Chukka

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lolol, the PiffS1 pheno used for the reversal is more NL dom in structure but retains a lot of the piffy terps. That’s how we got the flowering time down for this line

If you want longer flowering crazy stretching ones, try the midnight mass or some of the others dropping soon like the Audubon gold x Harlem dreams or the brown haze x Harlem dreams
As for Piffcoast, I purchased the Piff S2 x Harlem Dreams.....even though I m not huge on blue dream, the photos I saw were too good to pass on it.
Sounds good but these fidgits are squat for NL too.
I'm still waiting for some trichs so I'm sure if they're smelling good i can get over the oompa loompa growth rate.
Btw...i started these beans alongside Hazy Piffingtons and I've already sampled one of those. Veg was extra slow on these.
 

Piffcoastfarms

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Sounds good but these fidgits are squat for NL too.
I'm still waiting for some trichs so I'm sure if they're smelling good i can get over the oompa loompa growth rate.
Btw...i started these beans alongside Hazy Piffingtons and I've already sampled one of those. Veg was extra slow on these.
that’s the thing when you get further and further down the S generations you lose vigor as you keep going. that part I didn’t know when I was completing the project, and probably why you don’t see much past S1. Live and learn though. My keeper from the S2 is amazing and a few other people have found some awesome ones as well so in all I believe it was worth it! But I won’t be making more
 

Paul-n-Chukka

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that’s the thing when you get further and further down the S generations you lose vigor as you keep going. that part I didn’t know when I was completing the project, and probably why you don’t see much past S1. Live and learn though. My keeper from the S2 is amazing and a few other people have found some awesome ones as well so in all I believe it was worth it! But I won’t be making more
Maybe your s1 came from a prior Rodelization. As long as the little bitches put out I'll be fine.
 

Staretz44

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that’s the thing when you get further and further down the S generations you lose vigor as you keep going. that part I didn’t know when I was completing the project, and probably why you don’t see much past S1. Live and learn though. My keeper from the S2 is amazing and a few other people have found some awesome ones as well so in all I believe it was worth it! But I won’t be making more
So I was just about to buy some Piff s1x A5 Haze/Thai bx seeds from Doc D but after reading that S generations lose vigor I don't see the point in buying them now.
 

Paul-n-Chukka

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So I was just about to buy some Piff s1x A5 Haze/Thai bx seeds from Doc D but after reading that S generations lose vigor I don't see the point in buying them now.
I don't think D would've used it if it didn't impress him. But I dont think S2 generation should show so much retarded growth as I've found in the entire pack.
We've all grown gsc fems without getting all ogkb midgets.
Kinda ironic that the Piff Tshirt shows it towering over an ogkb haha
 
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