Is the darkness before harvest myth dead

M.O.

M.O.

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ComputerSaysNo said:
They don't research fibrous hemp. They research "medicinal hemp" (CBD hemp). When you watch his lab tour you can see plenty of their plants, and they all have big flowers, they could as well be THC plants purely from the looks. Definitely not fibrous hemp.
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That actually makes more sense too then. Alright. The CBD flower is newish to me and I know nothing about it. My original question was a real one - can you trust him? I’m happy to be wrong. With so many people cashing in making claims I probably just flew to conclusion and that’s not fair I admit.

We can get back to slaughtering our poor plants with all these fantastic flushes and dark periods. Just picturing some dude feeling around in the dark for his plants and chopping the light cord instead lol. 12 hours is plenty.
 
ComputerSaysNo

ComputerSaysNo

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M.O. said:
can you trust him?
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He is a tenured professor with a multi-decade career in science.

Actual scientific disciplines are organized around rigorous principles ("the scientific method"). That means, when you make a claim ("theory") you have to provide an experiment that proves (or disproves) the theory. It has to be documented in a way that others can reproduce your results.

You then publish your findings, usually in a scientific journal, and it will be "peer reviewed". That means other scientists in your field will examine your work (anonymously), and give feedback, and then it may be accepted for publication in a journal.

How science does not work: like discussions on RIU (-"You're WRONG!" -"no ur wrong" -"fuck you" -q.e.d.)

The problem is that 98% of the population does not know these things, and then you end up with "climate deniers" and "anti vaxxers" (and people who flush their plants in darkness for 48 hours before harvesting...).
 
Nutty sKunK

Nutty sKunK

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conor c said:
Im aware of that but i dont think that alone explains it i still think theres something else going on we aint fully aware of yet
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I have a theory it’s partly to do with the soil moisture level. When subjected to dark periods the soil stays moist for longer allowing a better microherd to establish itself.

I think we forget there’s often more than one factor influencing the result.
 
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harris hawk

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we are talking about stress -- darkness at end of growth = stress and satress =more trichomes - simply put !!!!!! there wer studies done from a 24hr to a 48hr darkness result of strudy 24 -36hr darkness showed if you do go "dark" no more than that
 
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Applechewer

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harris hawk said:
we are talking about stress -- darkness at end of growth = stress and satress =more trichomes - simply put !!!!!! there wer studies done from a 24hr to a 48hr darkness result of strudy 24 -36hr darkness showed if you do go "dark" no more than that
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And they’re conclusions showed that sucrose is propellant for secondary metabolites such as trichombs. Those sugars are only produced when lights are ON.
 
M.O.

M.O.

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I realize you’re not talking to me here since I’ve never:

ComputerSaysNo said:
How science does not work: like discussions on RIU (-"You're WRONG!" -"no ur wrong" -"fuck you" -q.e.d.)
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And I agree. I misunderstood his assertions about hemp/flower. Seemed a assertation a prof like that wouldn’t make. I might be forgiven since I learned to grow late 90s early 00s.

CBD flower is new to me. That shit would’ve been culled instantly. Some flower that looked good and didn’t get you high?
 
ComputerSaysNo

ComputerSaysNo

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M.O. said:
CBD flower is new to me. That shit would’ve been culled instantly. Some flower that looked good and didn’t get you high?
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CBD has various medicinal uses, and some people do not want to get high but still get some beneficial effects. CBD also decreases the unwanted side-effects of THC.

I am very sensitive to THC and for me CBD is highly desirable.
 
CatHedral

CatHedral

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ComputerSaysNo said:
He is a tenured professor with a multi-decade career in science.

Actual scientific disciplines are organized around rigorous principles ("the scientific method"). That means, when you make a claim ("theory") you have to provide an experiment that proves (or disproves) the theory. It has to be documented in a way that others can reproduce your results.

You then publish your findings, usually in a scientific journal, and it will be "peer reviewed". That means other scientists in your field will examine your work (anonymously), and give feedback, and then it may be accepted for publication in a journal.

How science does not work: like discussions on RIU (-"You're WRONG!" -"no ur wrong" -"fuck you" -q.e.d.)

The problem is that 98% of the population does not know these things, and then you end up with "climate deniers" and "anti vaxxers" (and people who flush their plants in darkness for 48 hours before harvesting...).
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Slight correction to your second parenthetical. Not theory, which implies stature, but hypothesis.
 
M.O.

M.O.

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ComputerSaysNo said:
CBD has various medicinal uses, and some people do not want to get high but still get some beneficial effects. CBD also decreases the unwanted side-effects of THC.

I am very sensitive to THC and for me CBD is highly desirable.
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I totally respect that and think it’s great there are varieties you can enjoy. Really have me thinking…

I need to find out if CBD flower is regulated at all. Like if I could plant them in my front yard. Then after everyone is used to my hemp patch for some years I could swap one or two out. Be a lot easier than building an outdoor prison for my girls.
 
ComputerSaysNo

ComputerSaysNo

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M.O. said:
I need to find out if CBD flower is regulated at all. Like if I could plant them in my front yard.
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In the EU you even need a license to grow CBD flower... if it's < 0.2% THC and a certified cultivar, then you can grow it with a permit.

I think in the US it's similar, there are certified cultivars (I think it's < 0.3% THC in the US) and you can grow them. They've also allowed (rope) farmers to actually extract the CBD from the flower that they had to discard in the past. I guess it's where a lot of the isolate/distillate that is used in oils comes from.

There are actually some very strong CBD cultivars that are legal to grow, you need to shop around at specialized breeders. Seeds are very cheap.
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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M.O. said:
I totally respect that and think it’s great there are varieties you can enjoy. Really have me thinking…

I need to find out if CBD flower is regulated at all. Like if I could plant them in my front yard. Then after everyone is used to my hemp patch for some years I could swap one or two out. Be a lot easier than building an outdoor prison for my girls.
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Only thing is all that hemp growing in the area will happily seed your little garden
Hemp pollen travels well on the winds
 
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Northwood

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Herb & Suds said:
Only thing is all that hemp growing in the area will happily seed your little garden
Hemp pollen travels well on the winds
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I know a couple people who live in Southern Ontario that totally gave up on growing their legal 4 plants outdoors, and are now exclusive indoor growers due to pollination from the expansive CBD hemp fields around them. Here in eastern Ontario, it's just a matter of educating your neighbours in how to tell the difference between male and female plants they grow in their backyards to keep your own plants safe. Lol
 
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