What should I do??

[hotrodharley]

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So it should come as no surprise that I need yet another helping hand to get these plants across the finish line. I did a really dumb thing about a week ago and regret it big time. For reasons unknown I decided to give the girls a haircut. Well I just overdid it and got scissor happy. Pretty much the next day all the remaining leaves started heading south and turning yellow and/or just dying.
The buds seem to have progressed a little but still look too immature for my tastes….white hairs are still everywhere. The trichs are almost all cloudy/milky but no ambers yet….maybe a handful on all 3 plants but I have to really spend some time concentrate to find one.
I have fed about 1/4 -1/2 doses of Big Bloom prior to the defoliation…..the last watering was Monday and I gave only water….one of the plants had a fair amount of runoff and it was a lot darker than I figured…..then I started thinking, I have these big salt stains on the bottom sides Of my fabric pots…..which I assume would come from nute buildup. So i gave that one plant a mini flush and ran another 2/3 gallon of just water through it. The runoff was very brown and my ppm meter said 1500-1550. So whatever that means is a mystery to me.
I just want your opinion on what to do to finish these girls off??? The grow is at 100 days and I just don’t wanna chop these plants looking like they do….but man are they movin slow. I’ve found 3 different nanners and just plucked em off. I don’t see where they can hurt much this late.
I would have never thought about pulling a plant with white pistils poppin, no matter what the trichs look like….but these plants are making me rethink that philosophy.
They should be ready for a drink tomorrow or the next day….should I give em a light dose of something synthetic so it’ll be available asap ??
Come at me with some feel good truth….and thanks again…..much appreciated.

This close and will runoff EC that high I think I'd flush. That's a first for me. I don't believe it helps in an ordinary situation. I'd open some holes in the bottoms of the bags. A lot of them actually and have them well off the ground. Then check runoff EC. If it's close to the strength of your feed I'd feed half strength. Including some nitrogen.

 

[Dank Bongula]

 

[Bullmark]

I know I know…..I am apparently a self destructive grower.
What would your move be if they were your plants??
If you look back to the first question of this thread, you’ll see that (about a month ago) the plants were underfed and hungry. Well Over the next two weeks I fed them moderate levels of nutes…..never over 1100ppm and that includes my tap water which accounts for 140ppm.
Then, thinking the end was fast approaching, I reduced the feedings to the 450-500 range.
I looked back at my notes from Monday and there were 2 trays of runoff….both around 1/2 gal. The first one was 1500ppm, after which I flushed some more and it lowered to 820ppm on the last one. Should I have kept going??
Do you think that plant needs flushing again to get the runoff even lower?? The other 2 plants are most certainly holding onto that high level…..I never Fed anything close to 1500-1600 but I guess it accumulates.
Whatta u think Mr Dank??

 

[Bullmark]

This close and will runoff EC that high I think I'd flush. That's a first for me. I don't believe it helps in an ordinary situation. I'd open some holes in the bottoms of the bags. A lot of them actually and have them well off the ground. Then check runoff EC. If it's close to the strength of your feed I'd feed half strength. Including some nitrogen.

I looked back and actually flushed the one plant twice…..first tray was 1500 and I flushed it again and it lowered to 820ppm….the tap water is 140.
How low do I wanna flush to??
My full feedings were only around 1000 and I lowered it to the 400s on the last couple.

 

[hotrodharley]

I looked back and actually flushed the one plant twice…..first tray was 1500 and I flushed it again and it lowered to 820ppm….the tap water is 140.
How low do I wanna flush to??
My full feedings were only around 1000 and I lowered it to the 400s on the last couple.

I'd stop flushing at the point it hits about 500-600.

 

[Bullmark]

I'd stop flushing at the point it hits about 500-600.

I am really sorry to worry the piss out of you over my modest little harvest….but maybe someday I can make it up to ya.
Here’s the latest: Things keep gettin more and more strange. Late last week i mini flushed w/ water and a small amount of this flushing agent…can’t remember the name but it’s supposed to help with salt buildup.
It only took about 2 gal per plant….they’re in 3 gal pots…..and the final runoff was 450-490 among the 3 plants.
The next few days were uneventful, other than a few more leaves yellowing and getting crispy. This morn two of the three plants were needing water…..the pots were light and it was time. The third plant had retained much more in the soil…pot was still heavy and soil was good and moist.
I gave the two plants a feeding of tiger bloom at 1/4 dose and full dose of Redcharge. I checked the ppm and it was 450…so it was a light mix, my tap water is around 140ppm.
I gave them about 2/3 gal each and ended up with some runoff. I just had to check it……and damned if one wasn’t in the 1200s and other even higher in the 1300s.
What do you make of that? I don’t get it.
I’d go ahead and chop the plants but I can’t find any amber trichs…..mostly milky but a fair number of clears. I’m sure the bud would be good but its not fully ripe.
I’m at a loss for what to do next…..2 of the 3 are very close and the third is not too far behind. They look more ripe in the pics……
I guess I’ll give em some more time….
I’d love to hear what the Ocean Forest guru has to say about it…..I may message him and try to pick his brain. Thanks again man.

 

[hotrodharley]

I am really sorry to worry the piss out of you over my modest little harvest….but maybe someday I can make it up to ya.
Here’s the latest: Things keep gettin more and more strange. Late last week i mini flushed w/ water and a small amount of this flushing agent…can’t remember the name but it’s supposed to help with salt buildup.
It only took about 2 gal per plant….they’re in 3 gal pots…..and the final runoff was 450-490 among the 3 plants.
The next few days were uneventful, other than a few more leaves yellowing and getting crispy. This morn two of the three plants were needing water…..the pots were light and it was time. The third plant had retained much more in the soil…pot was still heavy and soil was good and moist.
I gave the two plants a feeding of tiger bloom at 1/4 dose and full dose of Redcharge. I checked the ppm and it was 450…so it was a light mix, my tap water is around 140ppm.
I gave them about 2/3 gal each and ended up with some runoff. I just had to check it……and damned if one wasn’t in the 1200s and other even higher in the 1300s.
What do you make of that? I don’t get it.
I’d go ahead and chop the plants but I can’t find any amber trichs…..mostly milky but a fair number of clears. I’m sure the bud would be good but its not fully ripe.
I’m at a loss for what to do next…..2 of the 3 are very close and the third is not too far behind. They look more ripe in the pics……
I guess I’ll give em some more time….
I’d love to hear what the Ocean Forest guru has to say about it…..I may message him and try to pick his brain. Thanks again man.

Post a picture. We'll let you know. @Budzbuddha .

 

[Bullmark]

Post a picture. We'll let you know. @Budzbuddha .

Ok great. 2 of the 3 plants aren’t looking half bad….other than the leaves dying off rapidly. The 3rd plant is the slow poke. She’s had the same stringy hairs showing for several weeks. Her leaves are probably the worst of the 3.
First I’ll show you the two that are in decent shape and real close to ripe.

 

[hotrodharley]

Ok great. 2 of the 3 plants aren’t looking half bad….other than the leaves dying off rapidly. The 3rd plant is the slow poke. She’s had the same stringy hairs showing for several weeks. Her leaves are probably the worst of the 3.
First I’ll show you the two that are in decent shape and real close to ripe. View attachment 5073565View attachment 5073567

Those look really close if not already there. How far in are you? Have you scoped trichomes at all?

 

[Bullmark]

Post a picture. We'll let you know. @Budzbuddha .

Here are two pics of the one that is the furthest behind…..that pic is a couple days old but she’s had those long white hairs for a while. It seems like the calyces didn’t (or haven’t ) swell up like the others. If you look at the buds up close they look like a birds nest with thick hairs but no calyx development. They look better in the pics….

 

[Bullmark]

Those look really close if not already there. How far in are you? Have you scoped trichomes at all?

I’m in week 15 since sprout…..they are close. Still some pistils shooting out here and there. I scoped them last night and had to look hard for 30 min before I found the first amber.

 

[hotrodharley]

I’m in week 15 since sprout…..they are close. Still some pistils shooting out here and there. I scoped them last night and had to look hard for 30 min before I found the first amber.

Cut light hours to 10.

 

[Bullmark]

Cut light hours to 10.

Even though it’s an auto? I didn’t think they responded to that type of manipulation??
For record I did it anyway about 2 weeks ago…I cut it from 18/6 to 16/8. You think it may trigger something??

 

[hotrodharley]

Even though it’s an auto? I didn’t think they responded to that type of manipulation??
For record I did it anyway about 2 weeks ago…I cut it from 18/6 to 16/8. You think it may trigger something??

It's obviously oblivious to some of the ruderalis. I'd treat it strictly as a photo from here on.

 

[Treesomewanted77]

Have you looked for bud rot in the nugz? Not saying there is any but my last outdoor did about same thing and anywhere there was yellowed leafs like that there was bud rot. So take a peek in near the stalk behind each bud in a few spots just to make sure it’s not that. Hopefully it’s not

 

[Bullmark]

Have you looked for bud rot in the nugz? Not saying there is any but my last outdoor did about same thing and anywhere there was yellowed leafs like that there was bud rot. So take a peek in near the stalk behind each bud in a few spots just to make sure it’s not that. Hopefully it’s not

Hey thanks for mentioning it….you’re the second person that’s warned me to be on the lookout. I’m trying to give them a good looking over daily and looking at those dying leaves. There are several things going with them. Some are getting crispy on the edges and slowly fading out or dying. Some are turning yellow slowly but don’t have the burnt crispy edges…they’ll eventually dry up and wither up but I’m trying to watch them closely. Any leaves that still have a green or purple stem I’m leaving alone. But some are totally yellow and not dried out yet but the stem is a pale yellow, almost white. Those will pull off without much resistance. I’m pulling anything off that has that pale yellow/white stem and anything that’s dead right up against the bud.
i keep a decent breeze above and below the plants, also keeping my RH in the high 30s/low 40s…..and could get it much lower, which may not be a bad idea considering.