SCROG help

Wogwon

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Any help will be appreciated took my plants and scrogged them out today any suggestions on what to do with this mess lol. Let it grow? Then thin out or thin it out now? I have a bunch of under growth that needs attested to also should I wait for this new growth to pop through the screen to do so? I will post more pictures tomorrow any help would be appreciated.
 

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hotrodharley

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Flip now. You'll see what to thin as you go along. Keep weaving. They're generally flexible enough the first couple of weeks. Suggest a good veg feed to start 12/12 and include cal mag.

Don't be afraid to pull them back out to keep rearranging. They can take it.
 

Wogwon

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The under growth will get large enough to produce sizable fruit if I flip now? Also I shouldn’t wait to fill my screen before flip?
 

xtsho

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I held back on the flip a week flipped Jan 16 how the looking fellas been defoliating and tucking every Sunday the strain is double dragon from irie a sativa dominate bred with arise and Durban poison you guys think I will get a couple ounces from her?
You'll definitely get a couple ounces. You should get much more than that so I wouldn't worry.
 

calvin.m16

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Personally I would go in and strip away some of those smaller auxiliary branches so things don't get too crowded in there.

Now that I see your latest post, next time around just do the above step and you wont have such a packed canopy, also typically you'll have larger top colas with less branches.

Basically you'd be "lolipopping" the plants prior to scrog netting them. Makes things more manageable. Just take notes and if you grow the same cuts next time you'll know what to do.

You should get some good dank though. I would already setup another layer of actual netting with wider openings for the colas. It's gunna get floppy in there otherwise. Those tops will all just lay over once they start getting heavy.
 

Wogwon

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Personally I would go in and strip away some of those smaller auxiliary branches so things don't get too crowded in there.

Now that I see your latest post, next time around just do the above step and you wont have such a packed canopy, also typically you'll have larger top colas with less branches.

Basically you'd be "lolipopping" the plants prior to scrog netting them. Makes things more manageable. Just take notes and if you grow the same cuts next time you'll know what to do.

You should get some good dank though. I would already setup another layer of actual netting with wider openings for the colas. It's gunna get floppy in there otherwise. Those tops will all just lay over once they start getting heavy.
I am defiantly going to follow your advice I had to wait on a auto I started with them to finish up pushing my scrog out longer so I basically had to supercrop trees that were topped to lbhs stopping point on his scrog guide this is definitely a hand full I’m cutting auxiliary branches every weekend and defoliateing like crazy three hours Sunday... my 3x3 is filled and I’m out of room to tuck honestly idk what to do the stretch hasn’t really kicked in yet double screen will be a go for sure save me some time tucking also but I don’t wanna cheat the girls just yet I’m going to figure it out with tucking my next plan is to tie them directly to the screen in one direction then the opposite the next week I’m pushing for a lb I think I might be able to do it if they want to yield right running canna coco nutrients using their feed guide in correlation with their weeks also using mammoth p throughout grow and terpinator at the end
 
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calvin.m16

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I am defiantly going to follow your advice I had to wait on a auto I started with them to finish up pushing my scrog out longer so I basically had to supercrop trees that were topped to lbhs stopping point on his scrog guide this is definitely a hand full I’m cutting auxiliary branches every weekend and defoliateing like crazy three hours Sunday... my 3x3 is filled and I’m out of room to tuck honestly idk what to do the stretch hasn’t really kicked in yet double screen will be a go for sure save me some time tucking also but I don’t wanna cheat the girls just yet I’m going to figure it out with tucking my next plan is to tie them directly to the screen in one direction then the opposite the next week I’m pushing for a lb I think I might be able to do it if they want to yield right running canna coco nutrients using their feed guide in correlation with their weeks also using mammoth p and terpinator at the end
You're definitely out of room! Hey on the bright side that means you're utilizing the entire footprint of your space.

I wouldn't snip any more branches off now that it is in bloom. You might want to look into this for a couple weeks from now, those fan leaves are definitely going to be over crowded. Here's a blog on it. Be warned though some genetics do not like defoliation and may not respond well. It's all trial & error until you've done it.
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Keep recording as much information as you can about your grow and you'll thank yourself later trust me.
 

Wogwon

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Schwazzing isn’t bro science? Everything I have read on it seemed to be a way to push their line of nutrients
 

calvin.m16

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Schwazzing isn’t bro science? Everything I have read on it seemed to be a way to push their line of nutrients
If you aren't using my nutrients then you aren't going to get the same results. That dudes a fucking clown he said that they made up the term shwazzing because of scissors and defoliation how the fuck does that even make sense.

I SHWAZZZZEEEEEHOO my plants every run but I call it defoliation unlike those ding dong patty wacker give a dog a boners.

Your plants don't need special nutrients for you to successfully defoliate, that's entirely up to the genetics and caveman basics.
 

Wogwon

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Are there issues with herming with this technique? Have you grown any Sativa dominate with any issues these girls have hyper vigor I don’t think they will suffer from this style I will implement it when should I do it flipped the 16 so I am on day 17 since light change some count day one of flip some don’t
 

calvin.m16

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Are there issues with herming with this technique? Have you grown any Sativa dominate with any issues these girls have hyper vigor I don’t think they will suffer from this style I will implement it when should I do it flipped the 16 so I am on day 17 since light change some count day one of flip some don’t
Some genetics can hermaphrodite from too bright of lights and or other stress factors such as Defoliation yes. If you haven't tried it on a particular genetic yet then I would consider always doing a test where you have a "control" plant that is not stripped and then strip the other plant and see how they respond.

I would recommend growing normal female plants vs AutoFlower so that you can take clones from the plants and grow them again knowing how they respond to training etc.. You should only get better and better results doing that as you can fine tune the plant and know how it grows and what it's sensitive to. Personally if plants herm at any phase of bloom I throw them in the trash and any cuttings I took as well. I don't keep around genetics known to hermaphrodite. Unfortunately the only surefire way to know if a plant is going to hermaphrodite is by growing it a few runs and monitoring it closely.

If you look into FLoraFlex grow guide they explain the "2 node strip" and Day 20-22 Defoliation. Link below:
 

Wogwon

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Some genetics can hermaphrodite from too bright of lights and or other stress factors such as Defoliation yes. If you haven't tried it on a particular genetic yet then I would consider always doing a test where you have a "control" plant that is not stripped and then strip the other plant and see how they respond.

I would recommend growing normal female plants vs AutoFlower so that you can take clones from the plants and grow them again knowing how they respond to training etc.. You should only get better and better results doing that as you can fine tune the plant and know how it grows and what it's sensitive to. Personally if plants herm at any phase of bloom I throw them in the trash and any cuttings I took as well. I don't keep around genetics known to hermaphrodite. Unfortunately the only surefire way to know if a plant is going to hermaphrodite is by growing it a few runs and monitoring it closely.

If you look into FLoraFlex grow guide they explain the "2 node strip" and Day 20-22 Defoliation. Link below:
Before and after shots of defoliation I went hard on them today took abunch of small stuff off also. Flipped the16 Jan will these buds grow in length? What do you think my possible yield will be this is a 3x3 tent
 

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