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cannabineer

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Lucky Luke said:
If Nukes are only to be used when a countries on its knees isn't it then better to not use them? They are meant to be used as a deterrent (That's what the nuclear armed countries have always said). If a country is on its knees then the deterrent hasn't worked. Why kill, maime and desecrate more, cause more harm?
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This is an instance where I agree with you. Nukes (after 1945) are the he line where warfare moves from corrective to punitive.
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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Fogdog said:
OK, I've always been willing to consider the alternative if the evidence allows. It's nothing to me. I just haven't met a single other Australian with such antipathy to the US. I don't know anybody in the US who reciprocates that anger toward Australia either.

His posts make no sense either. US aligns with NATO allies after Putin invades Ukraine and luke rants "bbbut Hiroshima" and "bbut Afghanistan". The logic eludes me.

So I've always been willing to consider the possibility that he's not a Chinese troll, but the alternative is as likely from what I know of him.

I am not making up that Chinese are waging psy ops campaigns in Australia:

www.theguardian.com

China waging 'psychological warfare' against Australia, US Congress told

Academic Clive Hamilton says Australia is subjected to Communist party campaign to undermine democracy
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

He's never said squat about that. Not even when I mention it to him. It's always bad US this, bad US that.

He's on ignore, so not big deal. Just speaking my mind.
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You should get out more.
Yes, we know China has been trying to influence our policies- its old news. We even have laws against interference. You or Hannibal said you guys don't- we have been over all this before, just a few days ago we were mentioning the port of Darwin.... Foreign powers involving and influencing other countries elections and policies has been going on sense day dot. America has been a huge portrayer around the world as we all know.

It would be lovely that instead of insulting and innuendo and flat out lies you stuck to the arguments at hand. but i have a feeling thats to hard for you. And thats OK. If thats you then im happy for you.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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cannabineer said:
This is an instance where I agree with you. Nukes (after 1945) are the he line where warfare moves from corrective to punitive.
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To be clear. I'm not talking about US using nukes. Zeddd pointed out in rational and believable post that Putin has the type of personality disorder that would allow him to use them if the Ukraine invasion makes him appear weak.

This isn't a novel idea either:

Right-wing authoritarianism - Wikipedia

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In roleplaying situations, authoritarians tend to seek dominance over others by being competitive and destructive instead of cooperative. In a study by Altemeyer, 68 authoritarians played a three-hour simulation of the Earth's future entitled the Global Change Game. Unlike a comparison game played by individuals with low RWA scores which resulted in world peace and widespread international cooperation, the simulation by authoritarians became highly militarized and eventually entered the stage of nuclear war. By the end of the high RWA game, the entire population of the earth was declared dead.[42]
 
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cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Fogdog said:
To be clear. I'm not talking about US using nukes. Zeddd pointed out in rational and believable post that Putin has the type of personality disorder that would allow him to use them if the Ukraine invasion makes him appear weak.

This isn't a novel idea either:

Right-wing authoritarianism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

In roleplaying situations, authoritarians tend to seek dominance over others by being competitive and destructive instead of cooperative. In a study by Altemeyer, 68 authoritarians played a three-hour simulation of the Earth's future entitled the Global Change Game. Unlike a comparison game played by individuals with low RWA scores which resulted in world peace and widespread international cooperation, the simulation by authoritarians became highly militarized and eventually entered the stage of nuclear war. By the end of the high RWA game, the entire population of the earth was declared dead.[42]
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I do not question this. It plainly scares me.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Fogdog said:
To be clear. I'm not talking about US using nukes. Zeddd pointed out in rational and believable post that Putin has the type of personality disorder that would allow him to use them if the Ukraine invasion makes him appear weak.

This isn't a novel idea either:

Right-wing authoritarianism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

In roleplaying situations, authoritarians tend to seek dominance over others by being competitive and destructive instead of cooperative. In a study by Altemeyer, 68 authoritarians played a three-hour simulation of the Earth's future entitled the Global Change Game. Unlike a comparison game played by individuals with low RWA scores which resulted in world peace and widespread international cooperation, the simulation by authoritarians became highly militarized and eventually entered the stage of nuclear war. By the end of the high RWA game, the entire population of the earth was declared dead.[42]
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Even in democratic systems the scum sometimes rises to the top, in an autocratic system it's usually the biggest asshole who wins, being a psycho or a narcist is a prerequisite.
 
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