Don't Say Gay

hanimmal

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It would be a lot easier if there were not parents that were abusive towards their kids.

And not the fairytale that the right wing propagandists invented that somehow parents who kids wear a mask, or that listen and care about their children mental wellbeing are the ones being abusive. But actual abuse.

That is the shittyness of this right wing trolling of our education system by the Florida GQP. They are overwhelming our teachers and forcing them into a situation that if a child has questions, they can't have a safe place to ask an adult about themselves if they are in a possible harmful situation with abusive parents trying to beat their child into being straight.

And 'kindergarten is too young' is bullshit, I know I was attracted to girls back then.

That's a tough call because the bill says there cant be any classroom instruction on sexual orientation. I take that to mean the teacher can't create a lesson plan on the subject but the bill isn't specific enough to cover the scenarios where curious kids are just asking questions.
The fuzziness is the point. This is a right wing state sponsored propaganda bill used to 'own the libs'.
 

GOT420

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No we haven't all seen whatever videos you're referring to. Please post a link. Anti-sexualization? What do you mean by that? What do you see happening that "sexualizes" lessons? What lesson is being learned when kids understand they aren't allowed to speak about being gay? What lesson is taught to the child that tells his/her teacher they feel different and then that child is "reported" to the parent?
It bans talking about sex and sexual preferences. Whats so hard to comprehend? Why get offended and say ohh they cant say gay when in reality its much more than that. Its about not talking about sex because thats a parents job and those kids are young as hell at that age and its inappropriate for a teacher to be talking to kids that young about sex period.
 

hanimmal

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It bans talking about sex and sexual preferences. Whats so hard to comprehend? Why get offended and say ohh they cant say gay when in reality its much more than that. Its about not talking about sex because thats a parents job and those kids are young as hell at that age and its inappropriate for a teacher to be talking to kids that young about sex period.
 

Ozumoz66

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And 'kindergarten is too young' is bullshit, I know I was attracted to girls back then.
Grade two here. It was my eighth BD in mid June, near the end of the school year. She wore a full length red dress that day. We picked wild strawberries together after school. Then came home where I made whipped cream with a hand mixer, sugar and Mexican vanilla. What a great treat and memorable day. She moved during the summer and wasn't in my class in grade three.

Twenty plus years later, I went into a variety store to get some dill pickle chips (munchies) and there she was, bespectacled, cross-eyed and beautiful just like I'd remembered. "You're Dawn Jackson, right?" Yes, she replied. I reminisced about grade two. She blushed.

So, yeah, I too knew I liked girls early on. Can't imagine others being any different, that they wouldn't know who they're attracted to at a young age.
 

Fogdog

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It bans talking about sex and sexual preferences. Whats so hard to comprehend? Why get offended and say ohh they cant say gay when in reality its much more than that. Its about not talking about sex because thats a parents job and those kids are young as hell at that age and its inappropriate for a teacher to be talking to kids that young about sex period.
Don't gaslight us. We see you. This isn't about sex education in the second grade. Second grade teachers weren't teaching sex ed.

They banned something that nobody was doing. It's like banning Jews from performing blood rites. Or banning Comet Ping Pong from trafficking children.

We see you. This crap is seen for what it is. Hate mongering. Fascists are picking out a minority and making them out to be monsters who are trying to turn their kids away from right wing Christianity. Tell me. How well are right wing Christians doing with recruiting the younger generation? Because kids see you too.

It would be OK except it's not. Because shit like this ends up in homophobic attacks by deluded people like you.

So, stop it with the gaslighting. We see you.
 

Budley Doright

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It bans talking about sex and sexual preferences. Whats so hard to comprehend? Why get offended and say ohh they cant say gay when in reality its much more than that. Its about not talking about sex because thats a parents job and those kids are young as hell at that age and its inappropriate for a teacher to be talking to kids that young about sex period.
So no links to the videos we’ve all seen? I’m curious as I don’t think I’ve seen them either. If you could post it that would be very much appreciated.
 

PopAndSonGrows

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OK so look. . .i agree that sexuality is a very fine line of discussion as it pertains to children, even moreso if it's coming out of the mouths of non-parental figures like teachers, or your creepy uncle with the weird toupee; everyone knows that shit's fake, man, cmon :lol:

HOWEVER. . ...outright banning the discussion of something, or the saying of a word, is a waste of the judicial system's resources and time as it pertains to education. I mean for fuck's sake, can all you cucky white mostly fat Southern states just get on the 2022 wagon already?? Teach the gawddamn curriculum.

OF COURSE you shouldn't talk to kindergartners about "gay", but, if it's brought up that shit should be handled firstly at home, and/or secondly at the professional discretion of the teacher, who IMO should still defer to the parent(s). *edit: in the case of potentially recognized abuse, that should of course be reported & the systems in place for that could stand to be strengthened as well.
 

Fogdog

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OK so look. . .i agree that sexuality is a very fine line of discussion as it pertains to children, even moreso if it's coming out of the mouths of non-parental figures like teachers, or your creepy uncle with the weird toupee; everyone knows that shit's fake, man, cmon :lol:

HOWEVER. . ...outright banning the discussion of something, or the saying of a word, is a waste of the judicial system's resources and time as it pertains to education. I mean for fuck's sake, can all you cucky white mostly fat Southern states just get on the 2022 wagon already?? Teach the gawddamn curriculum.

OF COURSE you shouldn't talk to kindergartners about "gay", but, if it's brought up that shit should be handled firstly at home, and/or secondly at the professional discretion of the teacher, who IMO should still defer to the parent(s). *edit: in the case of potentially recognized abuse, that should of course be reported & the systems in place for that could stand to be strengthened as well.
You are right but it's not really about that. It's about making LGBTQ community and public education out to be monsters who are turning children away from right wing Christianity. It's about hate mongering.

Agree the whole thing is a waste. Teachers are well educated and for the most part concerned about the well being of kids. In addition to being a fascist attack on a minority group, it forces teachers to obey authority rather than do the job of teaching kids to the teacher's best ability.

Then jerks like @GOT420 show up to tell the same lies here that anybody who wants to hear them can get from right wing radio.
 

PopAndSonGrows

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You are right but it's not really about that. It's about making LGBTQ community and public education out to be monsters who are turning children away from right wing Christianity. It's about hate mongering.

Agree the whole thing is a waste. Teachers are well educated and for the most part concerned about the well being of kids. In addition to being a fascist attack on a minority group, it forces teachers to obey authority rather than do the job of teaching kids to the teacher's best ability.

Then jerks like @GOT420 show up to tell the same lies here that anybody who wants to hear them can get from right wing radio.
Well said
 

injinji

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It bans talking about sex and sexual preferences. Whats so hard to comprehend? Why get offended and say ohh they cant say gay when in reality its much more than that. Its about not talking about sex because thats a parents job and those kids are young as hell at that age and its inappropriate for a teacher to be talking to kids that young about sex period.
What if a kid ask if they are married? Would not their marital status be a discussion about sex?
 

injinji

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Grade two here. It was my eighth BD in mid June, near the end of the school year. She wore a full length red dress that day. We picked wild strawberries together after school. Then came home where I made whipped cream with a hand mixer, sugar and Mexican vanilla. What a great treat and memorable day. She moved during the summer and wasn't in my class in grade three.

Twenty plus years later, I went into a variety store to get some dill pickle chips (munchies) and there she was, bespectacled, cross-eyed and beautiful just like I'd remembered. "You're Dawn Jackson, right?" Yes, she replied. I reminisced about grade two. She blushed.

So, yeah, I too knew I liked girls early on. Can't imagine others being any different, that they wouldn't know who they're attracted to at a young age.
I have a cousin who taught 3rd grade for 25 odd years. She says she could pick out the gay kids that come through her class.
 

schuylaar

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It bans talking about sex and sexual preferences. Whats so hard to comprehend? Why get offended and say ohh they cant say gay when in reality its much more than that. Its about not talking about sex because thats a parents job and those kids are young as hell at that age and its inappropriate for a teacher to be talking to kids that young about sex period.
They don't. This is an own the libs distraction for 2022 running up to 2024.

The GOP must constantly distract against Biden.
 
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