Has marijuana ruined your life

Batman407

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if marijuana has been a gateway drug for you to start actual drugs then you are a very week person and dont need to be smoking weed to begin with.
 

korvette1977

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I started smoking weed the summer of 1978. I remember it like yesterday,,
In 30 yrs Ive never had weed bring a bad thing onto me , It has helped me get through some tough times ,And today Ive learned that I enjoy my life better when Im stoned , I smoke just about before I do anything or go anywhere .. Life Is Good
 

Batman407

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I started smoking weed the summer of 1978. I remember it like yesterday,,
In 30 yrs Ive never had weed bring a bad thing onto me , It has helped me get through some tough times ,And today Ive learned that I enjoy my life better when Im stoned , I smoke just about before I do anything or go anywhere .. Life Is Good
exactly, weed dont hurt, it helps.
 

NewGrowth

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I started smoking weed the summer of 1978. I remember it like yesterday,,
In 30 yrs Ive never had weed bring a bad thing onto me , It has helped me get through some tough times ,And today Ive learned that I enjoy my life better when Im stoned , I smoke just about before I do anything or go anywhere .. Life Is Good
Vette is the man, be stoned! Great motto :lol::bigjoint:
 

Timmy the Toker

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I can say ive failed about 3 or 4 piss tests in my life because of weed. It definately fucked me up in that department. And I dont blame weed for my problems and my opiate addiction. The plant didnt shove the pill down my throat.
 

OGDANTON

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batman- dont make such generalized statemets. i smoked pot before experimeted with any other substance then i did some experimenting. im still a strong person.
 

GrowSpecialist

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No. Weed has not ruined my life. In fact, it has enhanced it. It will only ruin your life if you LET it. The simple fact that its illegal makes it something that has the potential to ruin lives. That being said... its actually not WEED that ruins lives... its the unjust law which prohibits it... and the people that are stupid enough to get busted with it. Marijuana is just an innocent plant that grows in nature. It happens to have medicinal and recreational uses. Its completely harmless... and should not be blamed for lives which have been ruined.
 

Batman407

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you cant blame pot for making you experiment with other stuff. the bud didnt just start talking and tell you to take pills or snort coke or anything else you might do. if you experiment with other stuff thats all on you. unless you got too stoned to not know how to think straight and then did it and if thats the case you shouldnt smoke pot.
 

Stoney McFried

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Oh....no disrespect, but....Bullshit, man.YOU are your own gateway.YOU decide to go further.
I can give you many ways that marijuana has effected my life in a negative way. Ive been fighting with an opiate addiction for a few years now. This is because opiates are equal to the greatest weed high times 100. And weed openened the gateway to this drug.

-anybody el's who is opiate dependent will tell you this.
You get rep.EDIT....I have to pass more around first...damn.
come on man, its real easy to find something or someone else to blame your own actions on. take some responsibility for your own decisions. nobody could have made that decision for you to do opiates or MJ for that manner. you can package it what ever way you want. peer pressure, addict parents, abuse, depression, what ever you blame it on, it still come down to the fact you made that decision.

IMO until a addict stops blaming every body and everything else for there actions and start trying to figure out why they made the decision to get high. or why they still make the decision to get high. they will always be a addict.

i have never done a drug that i was addicted to the first time, and i have done most, and in all methods. it took quite a few before i was addicted. once i figured out what i was using the high for or hiding from, the problem was solved. i understand opiates are harder than most to clean up from.

its a decision, (ill get flamed for this) its not a disease. sounds like you been to a meeting or 2. im not just some outsider to this 5years it took me to decide never to do cocaine again. do me a favor and give this book a read. if you cant afford to buy it, i will mail you my copy. i am done with it.

rational recovery by jack trimpey
http://www.amazon.com/Rational-Recovery-Cure-Substance-Addiction/dp/0671528580

http://www.rational.org/

i hope i dont sound like ass, your statement reminded me of all the bullshit i used to sit and listen to at a meeting. only thing worst than "i am a addict i cant control myself" was listening to a fellow coke head talk about the old days of getting high. ironic go to a meeting talk about getting high, no wonder i went and got high after the meetings.
Rep for you too.
if marijuana has been a gateway drug for you to start actual drugs then you are a very week person and dont need to be smoking weed to begin with.
That's your fault.You can stop toking, dude.
I can say ive failed about 3 or 4 piss tests in my life because of weed. It definately fucked me up in that department. And I dont blame weed for my problems and my opiate addiction. The plant didnt shove the pill down my throat.
Rep.
mj does not ruin lives people ruin there own lives
if you cant handle it dont smoke it
 

Nvr2Stond

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interesting topic, not gonna read more than the first page due too laziness brought on by the pot, guess thts my only downside too it
 

tckfui

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I have to agree with stoney on the whole gateway thing, most people smoke a cigarette before ever smoking pot, not everyone, but most people, so cigarettes are the true gateway, but even thats BS! like stoney said, you're, your own gateway, so gate it up?
 

yelodrvr

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gateway. blaa blaa blaa. bullshit IMO. with that line of thinking the gateway would have started when you took that first swallow of breast milk, or formula. it altered your mood right?

ok ok that's to complicated. lets jump to when you had your first soda, cup of coffee, rock concert, stink finger. the world as it exist today is full of mood altering chemicals and activities. in food all the may down to watching a movie. its a reward process in the brain.

do you think that guy running down the street that weights 80# is doing it for his health. he is getting high man. ask any true runner they will tell you if they are conscious of it.

i have seen my wife's eyes dilate when we walk into a casino, shes like a crack head in there man. up $1000 dollars and she finally stopped at $300. when we left she could not understand what happened. why she would make those decision there and at home pinch penny's. she didn't understand until she realized she was getting off on it. she was stoned man, in the same sense as chemicals. alter heart rate, changed thought patterns, altered mood. its all relevant.

if we keep teaching our children and the addict the same ideology's and bullshit facts about drugs and addiction, that where taught to us and still are being taught today to the medical professionals we will continue to raise children to be addicts and addict to be victims.
 

tckfui

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I also agree with yelo, hes got the idea! knock it up another notch, and you can see how you can be addicted to practically anything.

http://health.howstuffworks.com/addiction.htm Only briefly read this, but it seems to be mostly write, I strongly suggest reading it, take some of it with a grain of salt though.
like their esample of marijuana, its not wrong, just not completly true.
 

yelodrvr

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it intense now. imagine you the addicted one, or the spouse, mother, brother, sister of the addict. its fucking maddening.

for 1. most of the rehab centers are scum, filled with people who really just need a place to stay with no intent of getting clean. so filled that you cant even get in. even with insurance. then the insurance wants to only pay for part of it, or 28 days. the hospital will find any reason for you to stay for the whole time that the insurance will pay. but the fucking minute the insurance stops paying your cured get out.

2. these people who are treating addicts are stuck in the last century. they want you to believe that you have a disease, that there is nothing you can do. go to a meeting, pray, and say the serenity prayer when the pipe/needle/bottle/pill/sex/gambling/life calls.

all bullshit.

there is something you can do. THINK!!!!! make the decision not to be addicted. learn everything you can about addictions, all views. learn or be taught how the brains works, and what you really doing to it. what may be missing, chemical wise to start, or what you have depleted because of your chemical dependencies.

it goes way farther that these two statements but i am trying to prove a point not change the world. JUST YOUR MIND. hahahahhahahahaha

seriously think about it. i dont claim to know everything or have all the answers. but i have been there. played the game they wanted to; admited i was helpless to my addiction, and the other 12 lies (i mean steps) wasted lots of money to add to the damage i had already created, and in the end nothing changed. i had to change. my knowledge, my action, and my thought process.
 

Stoney McFried

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Common sense rules the day.I'd rep you more if I could!!!
it intense now. imagine you the addicted one, or the spouse, mother, brother, sister of the addict. its fucking maddening.

for 1. most of the rehab centers are scum, filled with people who really just need a place to stay with no intent of getting clean. so filled that you cant even get in. even with insurance. then the insurance wants to only pay for part of it, or 28 days. the hospital will find any reason for you to stay for the whole time that the insurance will pay. but the fucking minute the insurance stops paying your cured get out.

2. these people who are treating addicts are stuck in the last century. they want you to believe that you have a disease, that there is nothing you can do. go to a meeting, pray, and say the serenity prayer when the pipe/needle/bottle/pill/sex/gambling/life calls.

all bullshit.

there is something you can do. THINK!!!!! make the decision not to be addicted. learn everything you can about addictions, all views. learn or be taught how the brains works, and what you really doing to it. what may be missing, chemical wise to start, or what you have depleted because of your chemical dependencies.

it goes way farther that these two statements but i am trying to prove a point not change the world. JUST YOUR MIND. hahahahhahahahaha

seriously think about it. i dont claim to know everything or have all the answers. but i have been there. played the game they wanted to; admited i was helpless to my addiction, and the other 12 lies (i mean steps) wasted lots of money to add to the damage i had already created, and in the end nothing changed. i had to change. my knowledge, my action, and my thought process.
 

NewGrowth

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Wow it is getting wild in here. Thought I would pop my two cents in.

Stoney's right, Gateway theory is BULLSHIT! Yep, I called it. I struggled with alcohol myself, for years. I found out that it was all me, how I looked at life, and ultimately how I decided to act. I can not blame my drinking on anyone else but myself. Genetic predisposition, perceived "illness" or not I am responsible for myself.

Pot may be the first substance a lot of people try but that is only because it is so prevalent in our society. I can go pretty much anyplace in the USA and get weed. Now heroin, coke, prescription drugs, ect; these are much harder to find. Pot is also safe and very mild so of course it is going to be the first thing people try. My point is NO MATTER what the laws or penalties or even level of enforcement people will have access to and will use illegal drugs. No matter what there will be a portion of society that abuses those drugs.

To say that pot got abusive people started is bull too, it is in their personality to be self destructive so pot or not they will use other substances.

Oh yeah and
Chris Died For Your Sins!
 
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