Where’s everyone like to order from?

Rurumo

Rurumo

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Stick with the well known domestic shops if ordering from the USA. Lately I've seen so many new names pop up in the USA it's ridiculous, don't chance a big order on some unknown scammer. GLG, Neptune, DCSE, North Atlantic, JBC....all dead reliable. Or you can order direct from a lot of fellas too, AKBB, Hazeman, Cannaventure, CSI, plus a lot more. CSI is king if you like freebies from a domestic seller! If you are in Europe, Attitude and Sensible are both reliable.
 
Flowtrail55

Flowtrail55

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Check out cool beans seedbank. They are out of Maine.
Send cash, they hook you up with freebies and stickers.
I just placed an order with them recently.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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Rufus T. Firefly said:
Not Europe
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Why not?

I'm in the USA and have made all of my seed purchases from European shops. I've been completely satisfied. Good selection and prices. Banks like Sensible Seeds have a huge selection including US breeders offerings. Better payment options as well. Too many of the US shops make you send cash or a money order.
 
GrownAtHighAltitude

GrownAtHighAltitude

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I prefer going direct, and I save up for large orders because usually they will hook me up royally. Better than most of the seed banks usually. :-)

favs:
AK Bean Brains
Authentic Genetics
Shoreline OG

was happy with Delicious Seeds gear from over seas
also Full Power Selections
and Ace Seeds via Mandala

I do like DC Seed Co also, and JBC is good too
 
conor c

conor c

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xtsho said:
Why not?

I'm in the USA and have made all of my seed purchases from European shops. I've been completely satisfied. Good selection and prices. Banks like Sensible Seeds have a huge selection including US breeders offerings. Better payment options as well. Too many of the US shops make you send cash or a money order.
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Exactly theres good and bad breeders everywhere only downside be shipping times for people in usa/canada id imagine but thats no different than me buying from usa or some other place thats further away from where i am it just stands to reason and it cant really be the old better genetics argument again surely as everyone everywhere pretty much can access most things even in clone only form pretty easy these days so aint like folks in europe aint using alot of american genetics to begin with anyway
 
xtsho

xtsho

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conor c said:
Exactly theres good and bad breeders everywhere only downside be shipping times for people in usa/canada id imagine but thats no different than me buying from usa or some other place thats further away from where i am it just stands to reason and it cant really be the old better genetics argument again surely as everyone everywhere pretty much can access most things even in clone only form pretty easy these days so aint like folks in europe aint using alot of american genetics to begin with anyway
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Or vice versa. I wonder how many of the US breeders with their purple strains started with ACE PCK or Cannabiogen from who ACE acquired it. And they even say so on their website. They don't try and make some big secret like many US breeders do to get people to think they did something special. Breed that with anything and you get purple weed. Master Kush is in the genetic lineage of many US strains and it's a Dutch strain. There are many other examples.

One of my biggest issues are the payment methods. I'm not sending cash in the mail. Sensible Seeds and Seedsman accept bitcoin. I've had seeds from the UK to the West Coast in under a week. Massive amounts of freebies as well. I think one time I got almost as many free seeds as what I ordered after the bonuses for spending X amount, using bitcoin, buying seeds on special, etc... Those freebies stack and add up. All fems and autos that I gave most of away and everyone was happy with them.

Then there is the fact that the US seed industry has turned into a bunch of pollen chuckers just making seeds and coming out with new stuff every month and not doing any actual breeding. I'm not paying $20 a seed for some cross I can make myself. Many of them are probably just chucking and growing in a 4x4 tent like I am. Making seeds is easy. It's not rocket science. Especially when all many are doing is taking 2 strains and crossing them for F1's then giving them some silly name. I could train a blind monkey to do that.
 
conor c

conor c

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xtsho said:
Or vice versa. I wonder how many of the US breeders with their purple strains started with ACE PCK or Cannabiogen from who ACE acquired it. And they even say so on their website. They don't try and make some big secret like many US breeders do to get people to think they did something special. Breed that with anything and you get purple weed. Master Kush is in the genetic lineage of many US strains and it's a Dutch strain. There are many other examples.

One of my biggest issues are the payment methods. I'm not sending cash in the mail. Sensible Seeds and Seedsman accept bitcoin. I've had seeds from the UK to the West Coast in under a week. Massive amounts of freebies as well. I think one time I got almost as many free seeds as what I ordered after the bonuses for spending X amount, using bitcoin, buying seeds on special, etc... Those freebies stack and add up. All fems and autos that I gave most of away and everyone was happy with them.

Then there is the fact that the US seed industry has turned into a bunch of pollen chuckers just making seeds and coming out with new stuff every month and not doing any actual breeding. I'm not paying $20 a seed for some cross I can make myself. Many of them are probably just chucking and growing in a 4x4 tent like I am. Making seeds is easy. It's not rocket science. Especially when all many are doing is taking 2 strains and crossing them for F1's then giving them some silly name. I could train a blind monkey to do that.
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Exactly tbh the folks i respect mostly are the ones who in it for the passion not just the $$ idc about country of origin so much and people that preserve shit long term that takes work or people like angus of rsc /kwikseeds that spread it at a fair price so that when its not there in the fields in the home countries of origin it at least still exists in folks collections somewhere in years to come thats gonna matter big time sadly even more so than now
 
Rufus T. Firefly

Rufus T. Firefly

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xtsho said:
Why not?

I'm in the USA and have made all of my seed purchases from European shops. I've been completely satisfied. Good selection and prices. Banks like Sensible Seeds have a huge selection including US breeders offerings. Better payment options as well. Too many of the US shops make you send cash or a money order.
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Customs(especially Chicago), ridiculous shipping costs and times, add on fees for "stealth" packaging that mostly requires removing seeds from original breeder packaging.

On average I don't find the payment options to be better either.

Plus, and maybe this is just me, shipping seeds made in the US to Europe only to have them shipped back to the US seems wasteful.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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Rufus T. Firefly said:
Customs(especially Chicago), ridiculous shipping costs and times, add on fees for "stealth" packaging that mostly requires removing seeds from original breeder packaging.

On average I don't find the payment options to be better either.

Plus, and maybe this is just me, shipping seeds made in the US to Europe only to have them shipped back to the US seems wasteful.
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I'll agree with you on customs. Chicago appears to be a black hole. My stuff comes through San Francisco and I've tracked it go through in just a few hours. I never found the shipping fees to be outrageous. $15 for stealth shipping on a $1200 order with seeds that all came in original breeder packaging. The payment options were much better as you could use credit card, amazon gift card, bitcoin, etc... Most of the US places that carried anything I wanted required cash or money order. Which brings up another issue. I don't want anything from most US breeders.

As for shipping to Europe and back being wasteful, I don't see it that way. They are selling to people from all over the world and having a seedbank superstore that ships worldwide provides access to those genetics for many. I also purchased a minimal amount of offerings from US breeders with the majority coming from breeders from other countries.

Not trying to argue and you made some valid points instead of the standard "European breeders suck" argument many always toss out despite the fact that they have never even grown anything from Europe and are not qualified to comment on the genetics.

:peace:
 
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