Just a struggling newbie...unsure of problem.

[Nugnewbie]

Would a cheap soil test kit testing for N,P and K tell me anything useful?

 

[Nugnewbie]

So, just to update what has been happening with my grow. I fogged the tent with Doktor Doom on April 2. I added Pot Poppers nematodes about April 6. Tried to keep them moist. Then added the Nemaknights nematodes on April 13. Keeping them moist. I have added additional OSF to the SIP with the Tropicana Banana clone after I did another soil slurry test and found the pH still on the low side. I've been watering both SIPs with straight de-chlorinated tap with a pH of 7.0. The SIP with the Hulkberry plants seems to have turned around and no longer appears anywhere near as deficient, however, there are a few leaves with weird discoloration that I don't know the cause of. Maybe left over damage from low pH? Here is a Hulkberry with the discoloration.



However, my main concern is now the Tropicana Banana which still appears light, either locked out or underfed. I don't know what is deficient. It had been said it looks K deficient, so was going to do a foliar feeding of a soluble seaweed extract 0-0-17. Will that help? Also, I have some Amblyseius cucumeris mites I want to release, but wasn't sure if I could do this at the same time as the foliar feeding?





Hoping @PadawanWarrior and @myke can chime in. Also, the foliar feeding concentration on the product i was going to feed with says 1/8 of a tsp per 1 gallon of water. (0.5g per 3.78 L). How do I reduce this ratio so I can just determine how much to use per L, as I can't foresee needing even that much to foliar feed one plant? Being that undoubtedly it is a very small amount, I won't really be able to weigh the amount, as it will be too small for any scale I own to accurately measure. Anyway, I have put a scrog net on also, as I'm planning to flower soon. I just hope I can get the Tropicana Banana looking a bit healthier before I change the light cycle, but I'm not waiting much longer.

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[Nugnewbie]

Anyone?

 

[lusidghost]

It looks like lockout, and the leaves aren't twisting so I don't think it's a PH issue.

What's that pipe for that's sticking out of the tray?

 

[PadawanWarrior]

So, just to update what has been happening with my grow. I fogged the tent with Doktor Doom on April 2. I added Pot Poppers nematodes about April 6. Tried to keep them moist. Then added the Nemaknights nematodes on April 13. Keeping them moist. I have added additional OSF to the SIP with the Tropicana Banana clone after I did another soil slurry test and found the pH still on the low side. I've been watering both SIPs with straight de-chlorinated tap with a pH of 7.0. The SIP with the Hulkberry plants seems to have turned around and no longer appears anywhere near as deficient, however, there are a few leaves with weird discoloration that I don't know the cause of. Maybe left over damage from low pH? Here is a Hulkberry with the discoloration.View attachment 5118807



However, my main concern is now the Tropicana Banana which still appears light, either locked out or underfed. I don't know what is deficient. It had been said it looks K deficient, so was going to do a foliar feeding of a soluble seaweed extract 0-0-17. Will that help? Also, I have some Amblyseius cucumeris mites I want to release, but wasn't sure if I could do this at the same time as the foliar feeding?

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Hoping @PadawanWarrior and @myke can chime in. Also, the foliar feeding concentration on the product i was going to feed with says 1/8 of a tsp per 1 gallon of water. (0.5g per 3.78 L). How do I reduce this ratio so I can just determine how much to use per L, as I can't foresee needing even that much to foliar feed one plant? Being that undoubtedly it is a very small amount, I won't really be able to weigh the amount, as it will be too small for any scale I own to accurately measure. Anyway, I have put a scrog net on also, as I'm planning to flower soon. I just hope I can get the Tropicana Banana looking a bit healthier before I change the light cycle, but I'm not waiting much longer.

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Looking better. It doesn't really look like K deficiency to me. I'd probably not add much else yet. Some of that's probably old damage. Personally I'd wait and keep doing plain water a couple more times and see how they respond. Then if they look like they're getting lighter, then I'd top dress some more. If I added anything now it would be Epsom salt.

If you want to foliar I'd do it before you add the Amblyseius cucumeris. Those guys are good though.

And I wouldn't think about flipping until you get them healthier first. Somehow I missed your tag, but feel free to hit me up anytime.

It looks like lockout, and the leaves aren't twisting so I don't think it's a PH issue.

What's that pipe for that's sticking out of the tray?

He's using SIP's

 

[Nugnewbie]

It looks like lockout, and the leaves aren't twisting so I don't think it's a PH issue.

What's that pipe for that's sticking out of the tray?

It's a piece of pipe to fill the reservoir of the SIP. Lockout but I haven't top dressed in a couple weeks so not saying it isn't, but would my past feeding still be releasing nutrients at an excessive amount?

 

[lusidghost]

It's a piece of pipe to fill the reservoir of the SIP. Lockout but I haven't top dressed in a couple weeks so not saying it isn't, but would my past feeding still be releasing nutrients at an excessive amount?

I don't think I've ever seen a SIPS setup, I've only read about them. Interesting. I really don't know, I'm a hydro guy. That's just what it looks like to me.

 

[Nugnewbie]

Looking better. It doesn't really look like K deficiency to me. I'd probably not add much else yet. Some of that's probably old damage. Personally I'd wait and keep doing plain water a couple more times and see how they respond. Then if they look like they're getting lighter, then I'd top dress some more. If I added anything now it would be Epsom salt.

If you want to foliar I'd do it before you add the Amblyseius cucumeris. Those guys are good though.

And I wouldn't think about flipping until you get them healthier first. Somehow I missed your tag, but feel free to hit me up anytime.


He's using SIP's

Ok, I am eager to get to flower due to possible summer heat issues, but I'll try to do foliar tomorrow, and release cucumeris 12 hrs later? And yes, will stick to straight water for now in this SIP. Hoping she'll green up and look like she's enjoying life.

No problem for not responding instantly, we all have lives and aren't always able to. Thank you PadawanWarrior.

 

[PadawanWarrior]

Ok, I am eager to get to flower due to possible summer heat issues, but I'll try to do foliar tomorrow, and release cucumeris 12 hrs later? And yes, will stick to straight water for now in this SIP. Hoping she'll green up and look like she's enjoying life.

No problem for not responding instantly, we all have lives and aren't always able to. Thank you PadawanWarrior.

I wouldn't use much of that K stuff since that stuff sounds kinda strong. You could also add some Epsom in the foliar too. Silica is another good thing to add to foliars. It helps keep the nutrients on the leaves. You don't need to add it though if you don't have it.

 

[Nugnewbie]

I don't think I've ever seen a SIPS setup, I've only read about them. Interesting. I really don't know, I'm a hydro guy. That's just what it looks like to me.

I have no clue about hydro, but I've also read about it. I find hydro interesting, but somewhat more complicated to set up. Also more expensive. Am I correct in assuming that?

 

[Nugnewbie]

I wouldn't use much of that K stuff since that stuff sounds kinda strong. You could also add some Epsom in the foliar too. Silica is another good thing to add to foliars. It helps keep the nutrients on the leaves. You don't need to add it though if you don't have it.

Yes, I have some epsom salts around. Not sure how old it is or if it matters. Ok, yeah I wish I could figure out what that seaweed extract ratio would be in a L of water. Then I could use recommended amout or less instead of guessing, but unless a math whiz pipes up and solves my problem I will try to ultra conservatively estimate. What could go wrong?

 

[PadawanWarrior]

Yes, I have some epsom salts around. Not sure how old it is or if it matters. Ok, yeah I wish I could figure out what that seaweed extract ratio would be in a L of water. Then I could use recommended amout or less instead of guessing, but unless a math whiz pipes up and solves my problem I will try to ultra conservatively estimate.

I've got a math degree, lol. But this sounds like a question for @kratos015 .

 

[Nugnewbie]

I've got a math degree, lol. But this sounds like a question for @kratos015 .

I guess a simple ratio no? But, I also think part of the problem is likely what you said, it must be fairly potent stuff to only need such a small amount in a gallon of water.

Funny you should laugh at your math degree. I don't have a degree in anything. Oh well, have some post secondary education. I'm pretty much still a a dummy though, hehehe.

 

[PadawanWarrior]

I guess a simple ratio no? But, I also think part of the problem is likely what you said, it must be fairly potent stuff to only need such a small amount in a gallon of water.

Funny you should laugh at your math degree. I don't have a degree in anything. Oh well, have some post secondary education. I'm pretty much still a a dummy though, hehehe.

Just making fun of myself. I also graduated Magna Cum Laude. I'm a smart stoner, .

 

[lusidghost]

I have no clue about hydro, but I've also read about it. I find hydro interesting, but somewhat more complicated to set up. Also more expensive. Am I correct in assuming that?

There are a lot of different ways to grow, but mine is pretty simple. I mix powdered nutrients and ph them and that's about it. I recently setup a fertigation system and auto runoff removal system, so I mostly just watch them grow at this point. I'm using rockwool slabs and Jack's nutrients. The Jack's is cheap, but the rockwool slabs are a little pricey. I'd say it's costing me around $100 per grow with 24 plants. So not too bad really.

 

[Nugnewbie]

Just making fun of myself. I also graduated Magna Cum Laude. I'm a smart stoner, .

Cool beans and kudos. I was told I was smart when I was young, and rested on that assumption far too much, could never sustain academic effort, basically very undisciplined. Got me where I am today, lol.

 

[Nugnewbie]

There are a lot of different ways to grow, but mine is pretty simple. I mix powdered nutrients and ph them and that's about it. I recently setup a fertigation system and auto runoff removal system, so I mostly just watch them grow at this point. I'm using rockwool slabs and Jack's nutrients. The Jack's is cheap, but the rockwool slabs are a little pricey. I'd say it's costing me around $100 per grow with 24 plants. So not too bad really.

Yeah, doesn't sound bad. I guess another reason I went the way I did with SIPs is you still use soil, and everything I read when I was deciding what grow method to go with, always read that flavor is generally better with soil grown than hydro. I don't know if I could even tell the difference myself but, was something that I considered.

 

[PadawanWarrior]

Cool beans and kudos. I was told I was smart when I was young, and rested on that assumption far too much, could never sustain academic effort, basically very undisciplined. Got me where I am today, lol.

I smoked weed all through college. I'd get high before I studied. Smoke a bowl, watch TV, as I'd do homework and shit. I used weed as my motivator. I've forgot a lot though for some reason,

 

[PadawanWarrior]

Yeah, doesn't sound bad. I guess another reason I went the way I did with SIPs is you still use soil, and everything I read when I was deciding what grow method to go with, always read that flavor is generally better with soil grown than hydro. I don't know if I could even tell the difference myself but, was something that I considered.

You had to say how organic weed tastes and smells better. Oh no. Here they come,

 

[Nugnewbie]

I smoked weed all through college. I'd get high before I studied. Smoke a bowl, watch TV, as I'd do homework and shit. I used weed as my motivator. I've forgot a lot though for some reason,

You had to say how organic weed tastes and smells better. Oh no. Here they come,
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I smoked weed all through college. I'd get high before I studied. Smoke a bowl, watch TV, as I'd do homework and shit. I used weed as my motivator. I've forgot a lot though for some reason,

Well, I usually managed to combine an excess of alcohol consumption along with my weed intake. My personality would change as my drinking increased, not that I knew or seemed to care to recognize that, and messed up many times in many ways. But, I'm alive and reasonably happy, and didn't kill anyone along the way. But my memory has always been a bit shaky, and short term memory lately has almost been...., frustrating sometimes. Like when I forget walking from one room to another, why I was going to that room, or forgetting wtf I wanted to search on the internet before I get to type it out, heh.