The praying pose

[OldMedUser]

Those two have got to be the chunkiest autos I've seen outdoors. Every auto I've grown outdoors ended up pulling around 50-70g which is terrible imo. The dirt was decent in the yard as I managed some pretty massive photos that year with two and a half months veg.

I nearly tripled my best outdoor auto yield with my first indoor auto.

Thanks. I'm pretty happy with them so far. I was particularly interested in the Mazar part as I've found Mazar really effective to relieve the chronic depression I've suffered with since a near fatal hammer attack over 40 years ago. Even more effective seems to be micro-dosing with magic mushrooms and I've been feeling so much better since starting that over a year ago. Haven't even done any for about 6 months and still feel so much less depression than I had grown used to. Still need something to fix my lack of motivation tho. Maybe micro-dosing meth will help.

I grew mostly DWC in Rubbermaid tubs until about 3 years ago when I started experimenting with organics. Could never keep a plant alive in soil so still working on that. Now I'm using ProMix HP mixed with 3 different commercial manures and other organic inputs and getting decent results. Outside I added lots of our homemade manure and that worked great but don't want that inside due to bugs that would spread like crazy inside but don't seem to be a problem outside.

My indoor regular plants end up in pots that hold about 15L so may just grow an auto in one of those inside to see how it does. I did grow one in a larger pot like that outside last summer and it was much smaller than the two in the ground even tho I kept it in a spot with better sun. One plant is not enough to draw any conclusions from tho. Could have just been a weaker seed.

I grow way more pot than I use but am supplying a bunch of people that can't afford to buy enough to treat their conditions including cancer with two of them. Can't buy decent meds like RSO in the legal market here either so the bulk of mine is used to make that. Once the oil is made it can be used as is or mixed into other things like DMSO or edibles. Just got some silicon gummie molds so going to make some gummies next.

 

[VincenzioVonHook]

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Thanks. I'm pretty happy with them so far. I was particularly interested in the Mazar part as I've found Mazar really effective to relieve the chronic depression I've suffered with since a near fatal hammer attack

Jeezus. Hang in there. That is horrid I suffered a fractured skull, broken orbital sockets and a broken jaw in a MTB accident 15 years ago and I'm still suffering cluster headaches and vertigo regularly. Head trauma is no walk in the park. Surprised you mentioned it, but micro dosing shrooms actually helps the cluster headaches and auras drastically in my case as well.

 

[OldMedUser]

You said autos are best done outdoors. That's not true. That's the the incorrect statement I was trying to let you know wasn't true. Then you posted your crispy indoor autos. I don't see the correlation between the two, unless you thought the photos of your crispy indoor autos were proof of your statement.

That was to show how different they grow depending on pot size. A few years ago I grew some in 3" square pots that hold a half litre of soil and they barely got to 6" tall.

Those little ones look so crispy because I haven't bothered taking off the fan leaves that have slowly been absorbed by the plants. I've just been dumping in a little RO water once in a while to keep them alive while the seeds ripen. They are still putting out new flowers here and there and with the two that didn't get sprayed with STS their buds will end up in the oil pot with the bud I grew outside last summer still in the freezer.

I finally have all the glassware I need to run my lab still and make my oils using naphtha instead of ISO. Freezing the bud fresh off the plants then processing right out of the freezer is so much nicer than going threw the lengthly slow dry and cure process to get good smoke-able bud. Preserves a lot of the terpenes better as well.

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

That was to show how different they grow depending on pot size. A few years ago I grew some in 3" square pots that hold a half litre of soil and they barely got to 6" tall.

Those little ones look so crispy because I haven't bothered taking off the fan leaves that have slowly been absorbed by the plants. I've just been dumping in a little RO water once in a while to keep them alive while the seeds ripen. They are still putting out new flowers here and there and with the two that didn't get sprayed with STS their buds will end up in the oil pot with the bud I grew outside last summer still in the freezer.

I finally have all the glassware I need to run my lab still and make my oils using naphtha instead of ISO. Freezing the bud fresh off the plants then processing right out of the freezer is so much nicer than going threw the lengthly slow dry and cure process to get good smoke-able bud. Preserves a lot of the terpenes better as well.

Ok great. You still haven't explained or shown how outdoor autos are better than indoor autos.

 

[0potato0]

It costs 50%-100% more to grow auto's indoors and that's just the electricity

The DLI is same (40) meaning you don't need as high average PAR (800 vs 550 or so for autos) -----> your electricity cost will be pretty much same

 

[Kassiopeija]

I wouldn't transplants such a small seedling, to big pot. Maybe the soil is to hot for it's fragile roots?

bahahahaha since when do plants pray when placed in too hot medium? if anything the opposite is the case

you really still need to learn all of this, how electrolytes affect a root and plants interior

 

[PadawanWarrior]

bahahahaha since when do plants pray when placed in too hot medium? if anything the opposite is the case

you really still need to learn all of this, how electrolytes affect a root and plants interior

 

[Kassiopeija]

I'm not sure if that plant will grow anymore

it will, it already got 2 shoot axis meristems - these can regrow new side-shoots. I'm pretty sure you've seen this already after a week of "lollipopping" a plant.

not saying now the OPs training method is beneficial in the greater scheme of things

 

[Killaki]

That has nothing to do with what I'm doing. The Idea behind this style is flow, having the two ends of flux higher you're creating two dominant heads that call for energy etc. The other limbs draw the energy off freely as it journeys along the flux. So hopefully it creates a hunger loop.

I like to use this method of training, and there's nothing wrong with it. In fact the end result I get once I flip to flowering is superior to any training method I've used before. These pics are the same exact method.

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How long would you say it takes from beginning to end for your average grow? I'm just curious. I've tried things exactly as you before and it wasn't my bag. I make limited cuts and it works for me.
I'm just curious on the details of your grow because it's not what I've experienced. Cool that it works for you.

 

[Wastei]

bahahahaha since when do plants pray when placed in too hot medium? if anything the opposite is the case

you really still need to learn all of this, how electrolytes affect a root and plants interior

I wish I had your Crystal ball. Do you think it's wise to make assumptions without any actual data? You seem to have all the answer by copy pasting anything to support your claims, doesn't matter if it usable for OP or not?

I understand you're only here to feed your ego but at least try to be respectful and helpful to others who actually trying to help OP out. You must be a millennial since you're entitled without anything to prove for yourself.

 

[Scuzzman]

bullies pushing there own bro crap- no else can do any better than them...
I grow autos indoor ,dont do out these days ( to many thief's) , I gow big autos - seed start into 3 gallon with coco - just dampen the coco coir from start water use a shot glass to water feed the plant for the first 2 weeks , no issues to worry about , then water the whole pot to slight run off only

Out door put the seeds in the ground and they will grow - no hassles so long as they get light /food easy to grow and yield really well (better than indoor). Indoor well if you stuff something up you can loose a crop very quick - seen mold in rooms/tents destroy things over night, to short a time frame to try and fix autos when something goes wrong-

 

[OldMedUser]

Jeezus. Hang in there. That is horrid I suffered a fractured skull, broken orbital sockets and a broken jaw in a MTB accident 15 years ago and I'm still suffering cluster headaches and vertigo regularly. Head trauma is no walk in the park. Surprised you mentioned it, but micro dosing shrooms actually helps the cluster headaches and auras drastically in my case as well.

I've had a few concussions and other hits to the head over the decades but that hammer thing was about the worst. Finally made contact with my birth family about 8 years ago to find out that my birth mother died of dementia at age 75 and was diagnosed at 65. I'm already 67 but so far, so good. A small stroke almost 10 years ago left me foggy for a few years but that seems a lot better these days.

What's making me feel best I think is giving up the booze. Sometime in May will be a year dry.

 

[OldMedUser]

Ok great. You still haven't explained or shown how outdoor autos are better than indoor autos.

Maybe that's mostly from personal experience. I have seen some pretty decent autos done by indoor growers with more auto grows than myself so I'm not saying it can't be done.

I still have no desire to grow autos inside for product. 50% more power usage for generally less yields just doesn't appeal to me much. The price of power just keeps climbing here so if I can cut back on that by growing photos then that's what I'll keep doing.

 

[VincenzioVonHook]

I've had a few concussions and other hits to the head over the decades but that hammer thing was about the worst. Finally made contact with my birth family about 8 years ago to find out that my birth mother died of dementia at age 75 and was diagnosed at 65. I'm already 67 but so far, so good. A small stroke almost 10 years ago left me foggy for a few years but that seems a lot better these days.

What's making me feel best I think is giving up the booze. Sometime in May will be a year dry. View attachment 5119600

10 years without a drink here. Keep it up. Its so worth it. Hope you hang in there on all regards. I can't begin to imagine how you came out the attack scenario. It's one thing to critically injure yourself doing something you love and suffer a life long setback, but to have far worse done at the hands of another must be harrowing.

 

[VincenzioVonHook]

Did you know that if you take a single stem plant around the 5th node and bend it over and repeatedly tie down the branches that try to grow taller keeping the canopy even, it will grow like that in less time and recovery? No topping, all LST. It's the opposite of what you're doing.

Thats exactly what I did to my first auto (GG auto) as I was a bit scared to top it for some reason. Ended up with a really even canopy. The only issue is I stupidly tied most of the branches to my tent poles instead of the pot. Bloody strings of wool and twist ties crossing everywhere like proximity lasers in a fucking James Bond movie. It wasn't going anywhere after that.

 

[mudballs]

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I wish I had your Crystal ball. Do you think it's wise to make assumptions without any actual data? You seem to have all the answer by copy pasting anything to support your claims, doesn't matter if it usable for OP or not?

I understand you're only here to feed your ego but at least try to be respectful and helpful to others who actually trying to help OP out. You must be a millennial since you're entitled without anything to prove for yourself.

she's still right...the plant is showing signs it is happy and loves what's going on. no comment on the early topping

 

[Wastei]

she's still right...the plant is showing signs it is happy and loves what's going on. no comment on the early topping

Right about what? That she stated a Cannabis plant can tolerate temperatures up to 115-130F? You have to look far and deep to find anything remotely as stupid comment as that.

She's probably never had a exhaust fan break running HID's and never even grown plants and monitored temperature with such statement.

She talk theory that has very little application in the real world and she seem to think science has all the answer while not understanding the inherited problems with the scientific method.

 

[mudballs]

Right about what?

since when do plants pray when placed in too hot medium? if anything the opposite is the case

you really still need to learn all of this, how electrolytes affect a root and plants interior

easy man...you can not like someone but still present your info in a congenial manner...goes for her too.

 

[Mr.Head]

bullies pushing there own bro crap- no else can do any better than them...
I grow autos indoor ,dont do out these days ( to many thief's) , I gow big autos - seed start into 3 gallon with coco - just dampen the coco coir from start water use a shot glass to water feed the plant for the first 2 weeks , no issues to worry about , then water the whole pot to slight run off only

Out door put the seeds in the ground and they will grow - no hassles so long as they get light /food easy to grow and yield really well (better than indoor). Indoor well if you stuff something up you can loose a crop very quick - seen mold in rooms/tents destroy things over night, to short a time frame to try and fix autos when something goes wrong-

Math isn't bullying. If you're offended I said Auto's shouldn't be grown indoors that's fine, but it's not bullying. It's backed up by a decade of experience.

I'll say it again, everything that can be done with an auto can be done with a photo, and then some.

The DLI is same (40) meaning you don't need as high average PAR (800 vs 550 or so for autos) -----> your electricity cost will be pretty much same

Can you link me the source of this information? I have a hard time with such a blanket statement when DLI of photoperiod crops is dependent on strain selection in the first place. Was this an average among several strains? Was it 1 auto vs. 1 Photo of similar or drastically different genetics? Was this in a lab or some dudes closet?

I'm going to need to read the paper on that one. 99% of the marketing targeted towards auto flowers is lies so I take everything said about them with a grain of salt.

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

Math isn't bullying. If you're offended I said Auto's shouldn't be grown indoors that's fine, but it's not bullying. It's backed up by a decade of experience.

I'll say it again, everything that can be done with an auto can be done with a photo, and then some.


Can you link me the source of this information? I have a hard time with such a blanket statement when DLI of photoperiod crops is dependent on strain selection in the first place. Was this an average among several strains? Was it 1 auto vs. 1 Photo of similar or drastically different genetics? Was this in a lab or some dudes closet?

I'm going to need to read the paper on that one. 99% of the marketing targeted towards auto flowers is lies so I take everything said about them with a grain of salt.

When was the last autoflower you grew?