Thrip infestation!!

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jammerbanger

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xtsho said:
I wasn't making a joke about them pooping on your plants. Where do people think they're going to crap up all these thrips you're hoping they'll eat? I don't think you can train them to use the toilet. A few sprays of a citric acid based product will take care of them. That should make for some good smoke of the highest standards.

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Do you have a product you recommend?
 
bk78

bk78

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NEDomestic said:
I can't recommend using Lady Bugs more! I guess some people call them Lady Birds. I've got mine through Amazon but the company I use through them is Natures Good Guys. I plan to order direct through them the next time I need them but Amazons shipping is great when you need help fast. Seriously though, the lady bugs are like an army and go out eating the thrips until they are gone. Good luck! Nice setup!
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Little past the ladybug stage buddy
 
gwheels

gwheels

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In Canada...you wont find the spinosad products.

You have to go a little more organic to get rid of them.

The Bug Lady
Koppert
NIC (In Ontario and who I have used because the freight is KILLER from BC, overnight freight to keep them alive).

I did an all out attack when i had a wicked infestiation about a year ago...I was losing the battle...Then I went full benny bug attack

Cucumeris Flies in release packs placed everywhere (repeat at 6 to 8 weeks). These happy buzzing little flies eat a lot of thrips...they catch the fliers and branch thrips.

Hypostasis Mites....a very good soil predator that eats thrips.

Swirski Ulti Mites...which are like tiny translucent spiders that eat thrips on the leaves..the branches all over the plant.

In addition weekly (when infested every 3 day) sprays of Jadam Wetting agent as part of a foliar feed, and it melts thrips.

For about 20 Canadian it was enough for 2 X 3 1/2 gallon batches (14 litres) I put that shit on everything...

Neem/Karanja/Horticultural oil can also be used but...I prefer avoiding them if i can.

If you back off in the 30 days...they will come back...over and over. You can never surrender !
 
xtsho

xtsho

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gwheels said:
In Canada...you wont find the spinosad products.

You have to go a little more organic to get rid of them.

The Bug Lady
Koppert
NIC (In Ontario and who I have used because the freight is KILLER from BC, overnight freight to keep them alive).

I did an all out attack when i had a wicked infestiation about a year ago...I was losing the battle...Then I went full benny bug attack

Cucumeris Flies in release packs placed everywhere (repeat at 6 to 8 weeks). These happy buzzing little flies eat a lot of thrips...they catch the fliers and branch thrips.

Hypostasis Mites....a very good soil predator that eats thrips.

Swirski Ulti Mites...which are like tiny translucent spiders that eat thrips on the leaves..the branches all over the plant.

In addition weekly (when infested every 3 day) sprays of Jadam Wetting agent as part of a foliar feed, and it melts thrips.

For about 20 Canadian it was enough for 2 X 3 1/2 gallon batches (14 litres) I put that shit on everything...

Neem/Karanja/Horticultural oil can also be used but...I prefer avoiding them if i can.

If you back off in the 30 days...they will come back...over and over. You can never surrender !
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Or you can eradicate them in a week with citric acid.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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weedstoner420 said:
I feel like almost every bug thread has at least one post where you recommend citric acid. I'm dealing with an annoying bout of spider mites on a couple moms, I'm gonna try the citric acid and will report back on how it goes.
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It works. You have to be careful as it can cause leaf damage if used incorrectly which is why most should just buy a commercial product and follow the directions. I use it without problems but am uncomfortable giving out dilution formulas anymore.

Good luck getting rid of the mites.
 
PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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xtsho said:
It works. You have to be careful as it can cause leaf damage if used incorrectly which is why most should just buy a commercial product and follow the directions. I use it without problems but am uncomfortable giving out dilution formulas anymore.

Good luck getting rid of the mites.
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Then let me help, :bigjoint:. 2-3 tsp per quart. Then spray the shit out of them. Some recommend to rinse it off with a plain water foliar within an hour. I've experimented, and it does help to prevent spots if you foliar with water after, but then it's really only working good for an hour. I don't know how long it takes to kill the different critters.

The Millard is a courser grain though, so I got a bottle of finely ground Ball's Citric Acid for canning to try next time. I think I remember you saying you used the finer powder too xtsho.

I should do an experiment here and add some of each to a couple jars until it's dissolved. Then let it evaporate and see how big the crystals are that remain.
 
FirstCavApache64

FirstCavApache64

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I use the Ball's Citric acid for canning for ph down and for bugs. It works great on spider mites. I'm hesitant as well on dosage recommendations as I've burned my own fair share of pistils but having some brown pistils vs a full blown spider mite infestation is a no brainer to me. It kills the adults and dried out all the eggs in one shot. One jar has lasted me over 3 years too, cheapest IPM product I've ever bought.
 
PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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FirstCavApache64 said:
I use the Ball's Citric acid for canning for ph down and for bugs. It works great on spider mites. I'm hesitant as well on dosage recommendations as I've burned my own fair share of pistils but having some brown pistils vs a full blown spider mite infestation is a no brainer to me. It kills the adults and dried out all the eggs in one shot. One jar has lasted me over 3 years too, cheapest IPM product I've ever bought.
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Oh ya, it'll definitely torch the pistils. I try to do that stuff in veg if needed.
 
imnicer

imnicer

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jammerbanger said:
Looking to hear from people who had a major thrip infestation. I would like to know 1.) was your crop salvageable and 2.) what was the outcome in yield, terpenes. Plants look healthy as normal, praying, but completely eaten up. I had some things in life that took priority before the garden and let this thrip problem fester.
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just out of curiosity, how many plants do you have there, it's obviously a commercial grow judging by the amount of lights you have, just being nosey really.
 
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Snickerpus

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xtsho said:
It works. You have to be careful as it can cause leaf damage if used incorrectly which is why most should just buy a commercial product and follow the directions. I use it without problems but am uncomfortable giving out dilution formulas anymore.

Good luck getting rid of the mites.
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So you are advising product, but you feel uncomfortable to give the dosage since it can cause leaf damage? Thrips are not so difficult to batlle if you catch them early in veg, but they are tough once you have them so hard on full flower. They are probably all over the room, inside the buds, pots, on the lights just everywhere. Leaf damage is huge together with some minor damage from feeding. Now its time to blast them with citric acid, which may kill some part of thrips, but it also do damage to the leaves and even more to the calyxes and pistils. And next week you can do it again and again until harvest? Because I do not see it working after one or two sprayings. I am not saying citric does not work, but it is not cure for everything in every case. I would be really curious how this ends up. As I said, I think they will herm or throw shitload of nanners sooner or later. Yeah I know that somebody does not care about seeds in his buds, but there are people who do care!
 
imnicer

imnicer

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i think xtsho was stating he wasn't happy giving his dilution ratio as your strain may be more susceptible to damage compared to his strains, plus if it all went pear shaped and your plants were ruined, surely you would blame his crappy advice.

bugs bugs and more bugs is the safest answer, but still a massive chance of mold mainly due to the leaf damage already caused, these leaves are all going to whither and die and and unless all the damaged leaves are removed they will just be a breeding ground for pm.
 
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Snickerpus

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imnicer said:
i think xtsho was stating he wasn't happy giving his dilution ratio as your strain may be more susceptible to damage compared to his strains, plus if it all went pear shaped and your plants were ruined, surely you would blame his crappy advice.

bugs bugs and more bugs is the safest answer, but still a massive chance of mold mainly due to the leaf damage already caused, these leaves are all going to whither and die and and unless all the damaged leaves are removed they will just be a breeding ground for pm.
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I understand dudes point, but its kinda bitchy attitude to say use this without instructions added how to use it. He might be already bored with explaining things around since this advice is given by him many times a day. Whatever, I am not saying hes wrong, but this infestation is huge outta control. I only say citric acid wont help here to drag plants to the harvest time in some reasonable time and average health condition of the plants.
 
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