2022 Massachusetts Outdoor Growers

mandocat

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Yes. That is your best bet if you're going to grow outside in New England. I decided to try it last year and quickly realized the most efficient way to grow outdoors in New England is in pots, big enough if you are doing living soil to get the biology going good and enough nutrients to the plant threw the cycle, but small enough where you can move them indoors, out of the sun, into the sun, and so on. Especially during the end of flower when the humidity is 80 plus and temps are getting down into the 50's at night, you want to be able to move them into shelter or indoors when it rains or when it gets too cold. Towards the end I was bringing them inside EVERY time it rained, got too cold at night, or any issues that needed addressing, and even had a big box fan blowing on them outside 24/7 to keep pests and mold/but rot at bay. Almost guaranteed a nice fresh batch of bud rot if you don't really do some things to prevent it. If you just put them in the ground and let them go, or throw them in pots and leave them in the same spot the whole time, your probably going to have to throw out at least half of your grow or more (if not the whole thing). Even with all the precautions I did, I still ended up with about 4-7 grams of bud rotted nugs I had to toss in the old trash and a few budworms. Assholes had two fan leaves filled with bud worm eggs or caterpillar eggs in the beginning of flower. Thank God I caught those before they hatched.
This breeder is a few miles south of Canada in the PNW. He breeds and grows outdoors and is especially focused on mold and bud rot resistance. Some of his gear might do well for you! https://www.regenerativeseeds.com/shop/dutch-blooms/coke-chimes/
 

PioneerValleyOG

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PioneerValleyOG

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Now I remember why I stopped using hay... took a minute to get thru the fog. Hay attracts slugs like nothing else. At least, in my area.
Maybe not in a fabric pot since raised off the ground? But u do remember a hay/slug issue.
 

bam0813

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If im being 100 first yr w alfalfa straw .Picked countless slugs off my pots every morning last yr This yr I haven’t noticed one yet. Im doubtful it has anything to do with straw as much as maybe weather or some other reason but it could be im always looking
 

bam0813

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Its early still but we’ll see. Had some get wet so wouldn’t give it to my rabbits so figured I’d give it a go. Honestly liking what i see under it though definitely helps keeping soil moist lots of life under it too. Shitty bale had a ton of alfalfa dust so that got amended too
 

PioneerValleyOG

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If im being 100 first yr w alfalfa straw .Picked countless slugs off my pots every morning last yr This yr I haven’t noticed one yet. Im doubtful it has anything to do with straw as much as maybe weather or some other reason but it could be im always looking
You're a lot like me, I'm constantly inspecting my gardens and have inspected a couple others. One I found a borer infestation that required serious patch surgery. I fished out dozens and dozens of the little wigglers from their sawdust covered holes at the crook if the branch. Injected BT in all the holes and saved the whole crop. If it had gone another week, all could have been lost.
Gotta stay vigilant.
 

bam0813

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Fortunately I haven’t had them in my mj crop yet but cant say the same for a peach tree i have. No problem now but in past
 

PioneerValleyOG

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So, looking back at all the great advice andd knowledge I've pretty much ignored, I'm already starting to stress.
There are so many Rot resistant strains that perform well in New England, buuuutttt instead I, much like the raccoon, went for the bright shiny buttons.
I expect the Waziri and possibly the Superbud might do well. Sunny Days, Cheesequake, Creme de la Creme, what was I thinking.
On the other hand, I think I'd credit myself for at least ordering from the outdoor drop down menu.
Storm last night laid down one of The Two Towers. Each year I put two plants in my Gigunda 50 gal pot. This year it's Superbud and Putang. The Putang looked like. It was mangled, which led me to a barefoot, coffee splopping, trot thru the rain soaked yard to further inspect. Luckily, seems the stalk was flexible enough. Whether animal or weather, Putang #3 has become a twisted thing, which, I can only sit back and admire.
One if my other plants is doing a Frankenstein kind if thing. Also, I pinched two plants, maybe accidentally ended one.
Here's some photos if my little tale. Some pinched tops, some weirdness, may look a little messy in this plot, but hey, I'll clean it up. Soon it'll be a veritable forest of the best I have.
Step by step
 

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bam0813

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Im guilty as well man. Im like a foolish kid when i buy seeds. Look At the pretty pics and yummy sounding names but never really research best strains for my particular situation. Its where i need the most improvement in my game for outdoors. Very good point and self observation
 

PioneerValleyOG

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So the Shaman is turned into this tall lanky, very much male looking plant. It's not kicking out side shoots like it should. Hoping that it simply turns into a tree. Any of these pics look like a male?
 

PioneerValleyOG

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If one looks back at the 2021 Mass Outdoor thread, there's a lot of good advice on strains that worked and are extremely mold resistant. KC Brains come to mind, as does LSD, certain blueberry, Grand Daddy Purple and many others. Northern Lights, and Mass Medical, the list goes on, all of which, *except for possibly the Waziri,
I do not have in my garden.
Observations: need to dial it in.
I'm designing a plot for next year to find the strongest thc and Rot resistant, and the following year will attempt creation of my own strain. Gonna have to put some males down by the river, guerilla style. Too bad you can't order male pollen like you could seeds. But that's what makes it fun I guess.
 

PioneerValleyOG

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Hmmm now i gotta figure out if flowering males count……
*Allegedly- every plant counts so when planting 30 seedlings to come up with the 12 #legal amounts, one is in gross violation.
Some might say, legal schmegal, and that's why I spread my plots thru various zip codes. And although in the past, I may have been over a plant or two , I try and keep my home garden up to spec, simply because in this small town, the cops know I grow. In fact, I once had a starting raised bed at the end of my walkway, start of driveway. An ambulance had to come, and the cops, instead of flipping out, just asked me to move the plants into my regular garden. They know I am on compliance, re: locked fenced in, out of view of public, 12 plants.
*Allegedly if you have 12 plants, and two seedlings, your whole crop can be confiscated.
And that, is to be avoided at all costs.
 

PioneerValleyOG

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If you dont live alone pioneer and following rules matters to you couldn’t you count a male or two in the 12 limit? 6 is flowering
Yes but I certainly wouldn't want a pollinating male in my garden, for any reason. Grow it for away, collect the pollen and hand pollinate.
 

bam0813

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*Allegedly- every plant counts so when planting 30 seedlings to come up with the 12 #legal amounts, one is in gross violation.
Some might say, legal schmegal, and that's why I spread my plots thru various zip codes. And although in the past, I may have been over a plant or two , I try and keep my home garden up to spec, simply because in this small town, the cops know I grow. In fact, I once had a starting raised bed at the end of my walkway, start of driveway. An ambulance had to come, and the cops, instead of flipping out, just asked me to move the plants into my regular garden. They know I am on compliance, re: locked fenced in, out of view of public, 12 plants.
*Allegedly if you have 12 plants, and two seedlings, your whole crop can be confiscated.
And that, is to be avoided at all costs.
Ya im not calling you out on anything just though you could legally have up to twelve with six in flower. I meant if your gonna breed couldn’t you just make sure only 5 were fem or in flower
 
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