Is Biden really that bad?

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cannabineer

cannabineer

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
and what was it's purpose? to establish that you're a troll, here to pwn some libs?
to incite a conversation where everyone participating in it thinks you're a horse's ass?
to just be rude to random people who make political posts you don't agree with?
and it sounded pretty personal...you were personally insulting the leader of our country, a man better than any alternative the republicans could offer two years ago, and he'll be a better man than anyone they can offer two years from now...
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I will surely borrow “incite a conversation”.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

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althor said:
roll my eyes.. haha.

I have to say, there is no place on the entire internet more entertaining than the Rollitup politics forum. HILARIOUS.


If Biden isnt the worst president in history, he is in the bottom three easily.
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not even fucking close...https://www.voanews.com/a/america-s-best-and-worst-presidents-ranked/6612531.html

https://www.c-span.org/presidentsurvey2021/?page=overall

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/presidents-ranked-worst-best/

they don't usually rank sitting presidents, but the press would have at least mentioned if he ranked lower than trump. all three of them rank trump fourth from the bottom...
 
CunningCanuk

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Fogdog said:
Oh, here it is again another chicken little Republican.

Inflation is an outcome, it is due to controllable factors.

those factors are:

Strong demand: Consumer spending the past two years has been very strong. Especially appliances and goods that people wanted while we were all staying home during the lockdowns.
Too few goods: Supply chains have been choked several times over the past few years. Beginning with Trumps trade war with China, then Covid pandemic (Trump's term) the effects of which still linger, then Putin's war in Ukraine and now, Xi's zero Covid policy is extending the effects of the pandemic.
Service sector pressures: People are going out more and buying fewer goods. Restaurants, travel, that sort of thing. Those sectors were squashed during the pandemic and there is more demand than can be fulfilled right now.

What happens when there is more demand than can be filled? Prices go up.

Is this good? No.

Who is accountable? Inflation took it's first leap upward in 2021 (7%) and is projected to be 9% in 2022. The economy during the first year of any new president's term can be assigned to the previous president. So, yes, quite a bit of the blame for last year's inflation can be laid at Trump's feet. From now on, it's Biden's problem to fix. I expect that he will get a handle on it.

If Trump won the election, he'd be fucking up all over again.. Trump would be arguing about the numbers and how unfair this or that is. He'd have fumbled just like he did the US response to the pandemic. I also point out to you that the pandemic and the severity of the epidemic in the US WAS ENTIRELY due to Trump being unfit to lead us through it and much of the inflation we experience today is due to his bumbling.

So, look at what is causing inflation and tell me that Biden "caused" it. I'll laugh if you do.
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Unfortunately you’re pissing into the wind with Bambi, but great post just the same.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
well, here's another thing for him to think about then...Venezuela is very friendly with russia...their neighbors, Guiana, French Guiana, Surinam, Colombia, Ecuador...they could all become "friendly" with russia, unless they become friendly with us first. do you want half of South America to host military bases for russia?
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French Guiana is a full département of France, analogous to Hawai’i. I think it it is at reduced risk.
 
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Fogdog said:
Oh, here it is again another chicken little Republican.

Inflation is an outcome, it is due to controllable factors.

those factors are:

Strong demand: Consumer spending the past two years has been very strong. Especially appliances and goods that people wanted while we were all staying home during the lockdowns.
Too few goods: Supply chains have been choked several times over the past few years. Beginning with Trumps trade war with China, then Covid pandemic (Trump's term) the effects of which still linger, then Putin's war in Ukraine and now, Xi's zero Covid policy is extending the effects of the pandemic.
Service sector pressures: People are going out more and buying fewer goods. Restaurants, travel, that sort of thing. Those sectors were squashed during the pandemic and there is more demand than can be fulfilled right now.

What happens when there is more demand than can be filled? Prices go up.

Is this good? No.

Who is accountable? Inflation took it's first leap upward in 2021 (7%) and is projected to be 9% in 2022. The economy during the first year of any new president's term can be assigned to the previous president. So, yes, quite a bit of the blame for last year's inflation can be laid at Trump's feet. From now on, it's Biden's problem to fix. I expect that he will get a handle on it.

If Trump won the election, he'd be fucking up all over again.. Trump would be arguing about the numbers and how unfair this or that is. He'd have fumbled just like he did the US response to the pandemic. I also point out to you that the pandemic and the severity of the epidemic in the US WAS ENTIRELY due to Trump being unfit to lead us through it and much of the inflation we experience today is due to his bumbling.

So, look at what is causing inflation and tell me that Biden "caused" it. I'll laugh if you do.
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At last, a voice of reason. You are the only guy in here that has any clue about whats going on. Kudos to you. The rest of you are just full of hate for Trump and could not care less what Biden is doing. Nor do you have any clue. You have made some good points, I will counter.

First thing that comes to mind is covid. What do you think Trump did wrong? How was he unfit? Every country in the world got it. Then when Joe took over, Alpha was gone. That was the strain killing people. Now here we are 2 years later, still full of mandates and vaccine requirements that have nothing to do with Alpha. Do you know what the death toll is for Omicron? Joe ran on a platform of beating covid, but could not even stock the shelves with test kits.

As for inflation, what you say about first year presidents is usually true. But this time Joe made it a point to reverse current energy policy. This was basically declaring war against the oil companies, calling for no new drilling on federal land. From that day on, gas prices have gone up steadily, long before the Russian war began. You cant blame Trump for inflation and pretend Joes executive orders never happened. What executive orders? Orders to stop all new federal drilling in favor of climate change. We are a gas based society, its impossible to transition overnight. The same people who tell us to cut back on ac use in the summer because it may overload the electrical grid, are pushing electric cars on us. Meanwhile there are only 6,000 charging stations nationwide. Only a short time ago we had energy independence, higher exporting of oil than importing. Joe killed the Keystone pipeline and energy independence in America.
 
Herb & Suds

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NYCBambu said:
At last, a voice of reason. You are the only guy in here that has any clue about whats going on. Kudos to you. The rest of you are just full of hate for Trump and could not care less what Biden is doing. Nor do you have any clue. You have made some good points, I will counter.

First thing that comes to mind is covid. What do you think Trump did wrong? How was he unfit? Every country in the world got it. Then when Joe took over, Alpha was gone. That was the strain killing people. Now here we are 2 years later, still full of mandates and vaccine requirements that have nothing to do with Alpha. Do you know what the death toll is for Omicron? Joe ran on a platform of beating covid, but could not even stock the shelves with test kits.

As for inflation, what you say about first year presidents is usually true. But this time Joe made it a point to reverse current energy policy. This was basically declaring war against the oil companies, calling for no new drilling on federal land. From that day on, gas prices have gone up steadily, long before the Russian war began. You cant blame Trump for inflation and pretend Joes executive orders never happened. What executive orders? Orders to stop all new federal drilling in favor of climate change. We are a gas based society, its impossible to transition overnight. The same people who tell us to cut back on ac use in the summer because it may overload the electrical grid, are pushing electric cars on us. Meanwhile there are only 6,000 charging stations nationwide. Only a short time ago we had energy independence, higher exporting of oil than importing. Joe killed the Keystone pipeline and energy independence in America.
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Start with this
https://doggett.house.gov/media/blog-post/timeline-trumps-coronavirus-responses
 
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NYCBambu

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Herb & Suds said:
Start with this
https://doggett.house.gov/media/blog-post/timeline-trumps-coronavirus-responses
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From your source:

"We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”

That was the corrupt WHO covering up for China. They said everything was fine. Trump fired the entire WHO, Biden hired them back as if they were trustworthy.

On another note, why are you bragging about being on the shot program? It doesnt even work why would you trust them?
 
Herb & Suds

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NYCBambu said:
From your source:

"We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”

That was the corrupt WHO covering up for China. They said everything was fine. Trump fired the entire WHO, Biden hired them back as if they were trustworthy.

On another note, why are you bragging about being on the shot program? It doesnt even work why would you trust them?
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Still never had Covid
So there is that.
 
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NYCBambu

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Herb & Suds said:
It’s hard to debate alternate/ fake “facts”
You started making shit up when you lied about Joe and Cartels while completely ignoring the fact the mango Mussolini operates like a mafia boss
So scared of make believe?
Sure
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If its a lie why do we have a record amount of people being arrested at the border? Why do we have a record amount of overdoses in our country?
 
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NYCBambu

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Fogdog said:
They have nothing. They are getting emotional watching their orange turd's persona melt down before their very eyes.
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Just look at the results. You may not like trump because he was an asshole. But he gave us stable borders, cheap gas, stable inflation, no new wars, tougher laws against animal abusers, restored funding to black colleges, strong stock market, lowest unemployment rate in 50 years.

What did Biden give us? Highest inflation in 40 years. Highest overdose death toll on record. More dead on drugs than covid.
 
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