Is Biden really that bad?

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DIY-HP-LED

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If its a lie why do we have a record amount of people being arrested at the border? Why do we have a record amount of overdoses in our country?
It's just better quality brown folks replacing white trash who are offing themselves with oxy and meth. You need someone to flip your burgers, but not many will becoming north because climate change caused drought is wiping out all the republican farmers who hire most of the illegals out west. Same for ranching and meat packing, they are selling early because of drought, so not so many jobs for the undocumented. Enforcement and penalties should fall on those who hire the undocumented, the employers, not the poor people looking for a better life. If you can't get a job in America, you won't have a very good life, in many red states you might as well be in Afghanistan as be without a job, so they move to blue states and cities to survive.
 

Herb & Suds

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Just look at the results. You may not like trump because he was an asshole. But he gave us stable borders, cheap gas, stable inflation, no new wars, tougher laws against animal abusers, restored funding to black colleges, strong stock market, lowest unemployment rate in 50 years.

What did Biden give us? Highest inflation in 40 years. Highest overdose death toll on record. More dead on drugs than covid.
Tell me how he controlled gas prices?
 

NYCBambu

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It's just better quality brown folks replacing white trash who are offing themselves with oxy and meth. You need someone to flip your burgers, but not many will becoming north because climate change caused drought is wiping out all the republican farmers who hire most of the illegals out west. Same for ranching and meat packing, they are selling early because of drought, so not so many jobs for the undocumented. Enforcement and penalties should fall on those who hire the undocumented, the employers, not the poor people looking for a better life. If you can't get a job in America, you won't have a very good life, in many red states you might as well be in Afghanistan as be without a job, so they move to blue states and cities to survive.
So basically you are saying we dont need any borders. It should be a free for all, yes?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Just look at the results. You may not like trump because he was an asshole. But he gave us stable borders, cheap gas, stable inflation, no new wars, tougher laws against animal abusers, restored funding to black colleges, strong stock market, lowest unemployment rate in 50 years.

What did Biden give us? Highest inflation in 40 years. Highest overdose death toll on record. More dead on drugs than covid.
Yep we've seen the results and so will a few juries. Judges hear cases based on evidence and juries convict the same way.

 

NYCBambu

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Yep we've seen the results and so will a few juries. Judges hear cases based on evidence and juries convict the same way.

Hunter is up on charges too, all tied to his father. Trumps case looks fixed too, not one republican there to defend him.
 

HGCC

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What do you think would occur if we didn't have borders? I'm not really advocating that, but they don't work great...so what if we didn't have them. What problems would that cause? Kind of like the war on drugs, the border war is a failure and it really can't be won. Maybe we should abandon it and figure out ways to deal with whatever issues.

If people want to come, they will come. That line isn't stopping much.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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So basically you are saying we dont need any borders. It should be a free for all, yes?
Nope, but if you want to control migration, then focus on the people who hire them, no jobs, no problem. However America needs immigration and must increase it several fold to maintain population and economic growth and this is true for many western countries, there is emerging competition for immigrants these days. White Europeans no longer want to come to America, things are good at home, the only ones on offer are South Americans, Africans and Muslims, with a smattering of Asians, but things are improving a lot there too. Seems to me it would be wise to snap up those dreamers, who are educated and assimilated already?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Hunter is up on charges too, all tied to his father. Trumps case looks fixed too, not one republican there to defend him.
Hunter ain't a politician and has not been indicted, the only outlet carrying the story is Foxnews, when it makes the news people will pay attention. Right now there's treason and traitors to be dealt with, more crime than they can handle with Trump alone.
 

NYCBambu

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It's just better quality brown folks replacing white trash who are offing themselves with oxy and meth. You need someone to flip your burgers, but not many will becoming north because climate change caused drought is wiping out all the republican farmers who hire most of the illegals out west. Same for ranching and meat packing, they are selling early because of drought, so not so many jobs for the undocumented. Enforcement and penalties should fall on those who hire the undocumented, the employers, not the poor people looking for a better life. If you can't get a job in America, you won't have a very good life, in many red states you might as well be in Afghanistan as be without a job, so they move to blue states and cities to survive.
That is some pretty racist shit, I have to say. So all white people are trash?
 

NYCBambu

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What do you think would occur if we didn't have borders? I'm not really advocating that, but they don't work great...so what if we didn't have them. What problems would that cause? Kind of like the war on drugs, the border war is a failure and it really can't be won. Maybe we should abandon it and figure out ways to deal with whatever issues.

If people want to come, they will come. That line isn't stopping much.
Democrat cities are already at record high crime levels. In NYC where I live, crime was up 34% from last year. With open borders it would be total anarchy, lawlessness. Is that what you want? Every family for themselves and only the strong survive?

If you dont protect your borders, it is only a line as you said.
 

HGCC

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Well, tbh I think most crime is from domestic sources. So no, I don't think that would be an outcome of open borders. Kind of like the argument about criminals not following gun laws...I dont think they are going to follow border laws either. It just isnt a big deterent currently, so I don't see the loss of something that isn't effective as leading to what you describe.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Hunter is up on charges too, all tied to his father. Trumps case looks fixed too, not one republican there to defend him.
The rats are running and squealing, these people have no character and know their "cause" is bullshit. They also had over a half dozen documentary film makers with them and the J6 panel and FBI have it all and more. 900 suckers and counting, going down over the capital sacking.
Think they will make a thousand?
How many republicans will go down?
How many government officials and secret service agents?
How many lawyers?
How many republican politicians?

Ya better win in November...
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'Stop the Steal' organizer gave FBI info on 'more than a dozen' rally figures to secure plea deal: report

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On Thursday, WUSA9 reported that new court documents reveal Brandon Straka, an organizer of the January 6 "Stop the Steal" rally and the founder of the pro-Trump "Walk Away" movement urging Democrats to become Republicans, gave far more information to federal investigators about his fellow organizers than previously known — including testimony on "more than a dozen" figures linked to the events that day.

"In charging documents, prosecutors said Straka headed to the U.S. Capitol after receiving texts that the building had already been breached," noted the report. "Once there, videos show him encouraging other members of the mob and discussing his desire to enter the building. Afterward, he posted messages encouraging rioters to 'hold the line' and comparing January 6 to 1776."

All of this would have merited him a harsher sentence than what he originally received — 90 days home confinement — except for the information he provided as part of the deal, given to WUSA9 by Stuart Dornan, the attorney for Straka.

"In the memo, Dornan said Straka provided 'significant information' to federal investigators over three interviews with the FBI following his arrest," reported Jordan Fischer. "In one interview on March 5, 2021, Straka, according to Dornan, provided information about 'individuals who were inside of Nancy Pelosi's office; individuals who were inciters at the Capitol; and organizers of the Stop the Steal movement.' He also listed the names of individuals Straka spoke to the FBI about. Those names include rally organizers Amy and Kylie Kremer, Cindy Chafian and Ali Alexander — who Dornan described as the 'preeminent leader of the Stop the Steal movement.'"

"The majority of people on Dornan's list have not been accused of any crimes related to Jan. 6, but several, including the Kremers, Chafian and Alexander, have been named in the ongoing January 6th Committee investigation into the attack on the Capitol," said the report. "The Kremers – the mother-daughter duo who founded Women for Trump and Women for America First – helped organize the Jan. 6 'Stop the Steal' rally and their names appear on the National Parks Service permit for the day."

Additionally, said the report, "Dornan wrote Straka also provided FBI investigators with information about a fellow Nebraska resident who had not previously been identified," and Straka's evidence is enough to charge this person with crimes — although so far they have not been.

So far, almost 900 people have been charged in connection with the attack on the Capitol, with charges ranging from trespass and unlawful picketing to assault of police officers and seditious conspiracy.
 

NYCBambu

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Nope, but if you want to control migration, then focus on the people who hire them, no jobs, no problem. However America needs immigration and must increase it several fold to maintain population and economic growth and this is true for many western countries, there is emerging competition for immigrants these days. White Europeans no longer want to come to America, things are good at home, the only ones on offer are South Americans, Africans and Muslims, with a smattering of Asians, but things are improving a lot there too. Seems to me it would be wise to snap up those dreamers, who are educated and assimilated already?
Dreamers are one thing, protecting our borders is another. Biden invited these people over, now we are paying the price.
 

NYCBambu

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The media is privately held and so is foxnews, you need to believe in a global conspiracy involving millions of journalists and thousands of media outlets to make it all work. Even the news part of foxnews has to report the truth, more ore less and heavily spun.
Privately held yes, mostly by democrats. All major networks aside from fox, all democrat owned. The days of objective reporting are long gone.
 

NYCBambu

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The rats are running and squealing, these people have no character and know their "cause" is bullshit. They also had over a half dozen documentary film makers with them and the J6 panel and FBI have it all and more. 900 suckers and counting, going down over the capital sacking.
Think they will make a thousand?
How many republicans will go down?
How many government officials and secret service agents?
How many lawyers?
How many republican politicians?

Ya better win in November...
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'Stop the Steal' organizer gave FBI info on 'more than a dozen' rally figures to secure plea deal: report

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On Thursday, WUSA9 reported that new court documents reveal Brandon Straka, an organizer of the January 6 "Stop the Steal" rally and the founder of the pro-Trump "Walk Away" movement urging Democrats to become Republicans, gave far more information to federal investigators about his fellow organizers than previously known — including testimony on "more than a dozen" figures linked to the events that day.

"In charging documents, prosecutors said Straka headed to the U.S. Capitol after receiving texts that the building had already been breached," noted the report. "Once there, videos show him encouraging other members of the mob and discussing his desire to enter the building. Afterward, he posted messages encouraging rioters to 'hold the line' and comparing January 6 to 1776."

All of this would have merited him a harsher sentence than what he originally received — 90 days home confinement — except for the information he provided as part of the deal, given to WUSA9 by Stuart Dornan, the attorney for Straka.

"In the memo, Dornan said Straka provided 'significant information' to federal investigators over three interviews with the FBI following his arrest," reported Jordan Fischer. "In one interview on March 5, 2021, Straka, according to Dornan, provided information about 'individuals who were inside of Nancy Pelosi's office; individuals who were inciters at the Capitol; and organizers of the Stop the Steal movement.' He also listed the names of individuals Straka spoke to the FBI about. Those names include rally organizers Amy and Kylie Kremer, Cindy Chafian and Ali Alexander — who Dornan described as the 'preeminent leader of the Stop the Steal movement.'"

"The majority of people on Dornan's list have not been accused of any crimes related to Jan. 6, but several, including the Kremers, Chafian and Alexander, have been named in the ongoing January 6th Committee investigation into the attack on the Capitol," said the report. "The Kremers – the mother-daughter duo who founded Women for Trump and Women for America First – helped organize the Jan. 6 'Stop the Steal' rally and their names appear on the National Parks Service permit for the day."

Additionally, said the report, "Dornan wrote Straka also provided FBI investigators with information about a fellow Nebraska resident who had not previously been identified," and Straka's evidence is enough to charge this person with crimes — although so far they have not been.

So far, almost 900 people have been charged in connection with the attack on the Capitol, with charges ranging from trespass and unlawful picketing to assault of police officers and seditious conspiracy.
None of this makes Joe Biden a good president,, none. Its also just another witch hunt. Not one good republican even on the panel! Joe cant even run his own family right. Who films themselves smoking crack? The man is truly disturbed.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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Dreamers are one thing, protecting our borders is another. Biden invited these people over, now we are paying the price.
He did no such thing, America must obey its own laws and it's international obligations to international law, that's the difference between liberal democracies and the likes of Putin, or Trump if he had his way. The power of the state can be turned on you too and soon might be, so be careful about you wish for and respect the constitution, it might soon be your only protection from those who want payback. Wars have unintended consequences, just as Putin found out, if you are going to wage one, you'd better have a fucking good reason and not be mentally jerking off, or it might just come back to bite you on the ass.
 
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