Is Biden really that bad?

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DIY-HP-LED

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I agree with you, and I am concerned about it. I still think Trump was a good president, and dont think there was any takeover. But I would still rather a different republican run. Too many people hate him, whether justified or not.
He was the worse president in American history and a horrible human being and that was painfully obvious to many people, why not you? The GOP filled itself with fools and all the brains with hearts attached walked out the door when Trump walked in, it has been poisoned to death.
 

NYCBambu

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He was the worse president in American history and a horrible human being and that was painfully obvious to many people, why not you? The GOP filled itself with fools and all the brains with hearts attached walked out the door when Trump walked in, it has been poisoned to death.
You say that, your heart says it. But the raw data says otherwise. Only way to skew it would be to factor in covid. If you want to blame covid on trump, then yeah he was the worst ever. I dont rate presidents by media hype, I use graphs and charts. Numbers.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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You say that, your heart says it. But the raw data says otherwise. Only way to skew it would be to factor in covid. If you want to blame covid on trump, then yeah he was the worst ever.
Back when covid started it was much less infectious, we had no vaccines or effective treatments, masks and isolation worked to slow it down. Subsequently covid has evolved into more contagious strains and is now one of the most infectious diseases known, masks and isolation no longer are as effective. However during the Trump presidency masks and isolation did work well and America, the richest country on earth with 4% of the global population had 25% of the covid deaths. This was caused by Trump alone with malicious mismanagement and propaganda that ended up killing more of his base than anybody else after vaccines came out. If he didn't catch covid a few weeks before the election, he'd still be president and America and you would be fucked. Be careful of what you wish for, you may get it.
 
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NYCBambu

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Back when covid started it was much less infectious, we had no vaccines or effective treatments, masks and isolation worked to slow it down. Subsequently covid has evolved into more contagious strains and is now one of the most infectious diseases known, masks and isolation no longer are as effective. However during the Trump presidency masks and isolation did work well and America, the richest country on earth with 4% of the global population had 25% of the covid deaths. This was caused by Trump alone with malicious mismanagement and propaganda that ended up killing more of his base than anybody else after vaccines came out. If he didn't catch covid a few weeks before the election, he's still be president and America and you would be fucked. Be careful of what you wish for, you may get it.
Wasnt Fauci the go to flip flopper on covid? Wasnt he the expert that guided us? (Changing his mind every week.) What propaganda killed his base? Bleach drinking? I dont remember trump giving any covid guidance, but he did want to keep the economy open. How long were businesses and schools shut down while the Biden border remained wide open with no covid protocol? Still no testing at the border, only if my kid wants to go to college. Then he needs to be on the shot program. I dont think the vaccines did anything for anybody but Phizer and moderna. They change their narrative to suit them as time goes on. Fucked would be having to pay double for everything, I am living it every day. Good thing I dont have to pay for weed or my ass would be broke.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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I was thinking the same when they were starting to give out weed licenses. Buts not as if a drivers license would not suffice, any legal ID would be fine.
After 9/11 drivers licenses have enhanced security, even in Canada and can be used as official photo ID and the government can issue other official documents to those who don't have a license. They can also automatically register you to vote with a checkbox on your income tax form, that will come with HR1 and the voting reform act, if the democrats win a useful majority.
 

NYCBambu

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After 9/11 drivers licenses have enhanced security, even in Canada and can be used as official photo ID and the government can issue other official documents to those who don't have a license. They can also automatically register you to vote with a checkbox on your income tax form, that will come with HR1 and the voting reform act, if the democrats win a useful majority.

All that would be great, aside from the no voter ID required part. Do you agree that would be a free for all?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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All that would be great, aside from the no voter ID required part. Do you agree that would be a free for all?
I'm just saying that wars have unintended consequences, even civil wars against minorities. Sometimes things can come back to bite you on the ass real hard, just ask Vlad about the unintended consequences of his war.
 

Fogdog

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IRS agents coming for us,
IRS agents coming for you, maybe. Do you know how to avoid that? Pay your taxes.

I remember DHS agents in Portland.

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Or were they FBI? Or were they KKK? Who knows? Their faces weren't visible and they wore nothing that could identify them. Why did they do that? What I do know is Trump sent agents to brutally attack the good people of Portland just because they objected to police brutality.

Do you know how to avoid that? Vote for Democrats.
 

schuylaar

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dont know what that is. If its some gay shit, no.
It's Twitter for Righties and you can say whatever you want.


You're welcome!
 

schuylaar

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They call the act whatever they like. They called spying on us the patriot act. Meanwhile its just another piece of the failed build back better plan. IRS agents coming for us, tax breaks for rich tesla drivers, and tax increases. IMHO, spending more money is only throwing more gas on the fire.

If you are a climate change proponent and dont mind paying double for everything, yeah Biden is the president for you. I prefer to think we can adapt to a 2 degree change before a complete transition.

Thats exactly the radical kind of view that will get us nowhere. Do you want no ID voting too, a free for all? If it suits them, democrats want to re-define laws and definitions that have worked fine in this country for ages. Do you know how many times democrats filibustered last year?

I do give Biden credit for sending Ukraine weapons, thats alot more than chicken shit Obama did. I will also add, that your response although I do not agree, is on point. By leaps and bounds it is the best answer I have heard around here.
I would worry more about Trump taking your SS check than the IRS.

But you didn't mind the 2017 Billionaire Tax Cut and Everyone Else a Tax Increase? Which tax bracket are you in? Billionaire Class or the Everyone Else Class?

Trump is like Vekna..Alive and well..lcan't wait until Season 5.
 
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NYCBambu

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I'm just saying that wars have unintended consequences, even civil wars against minorities. Sometimes things can come back to bite you on the ass real hard, just ask Vlad about the unintended consequences of his war.
So you do think voter ID is racist. Thats just crazy to me.
 
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