cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Sanctity stinks of the toxics.
Is a reversal of Roe v Wade decision next?
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Fogdog
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Setting emotional arguments such as "killing babies" aside, the states most likeley to ban abortion, some of whom discuss banning a pregnant woman from taking her uterus across state borders, are apparently oblivious to the death and misery spiral of their policies.
www.nytimes.com
How Women and Children Fare
States hostile to abortion fare worse on a variety of health and well-being outcomes, while states supportive of abortion rights tend to have a more generous social safety net.
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look at that last one. 10% higher rates of mothers dying during delivery. Compared to pro choice states, a woman giving birth in an anti abortion state is 67% more likely to die during delivery.
Then note the 2% higher rate of infant mortality. Again, compared to pro-choice states, infant mortality is 34% more likely in an anti abortion state.
My guess is a big driver of this carnage is found in the much higher teen births that occur in anti abortion states.
@TankHankerous, in this thread, talked about the sanctity of life. I mention that poster as an example, not to call them out. Theirs is a subjective, neo-Christian, morality-laden argument but I'll leave the imposition of their belief on others alone for the moment. I'll just point out that banning abortion is going to cause death and misery to spiral upward and these sanctimonious Christians aren't prepared for it. So I call BS on their concern for human life.
States With Abortion Bans Are Among Least Supportive for Mothers and Children (Published 2022)
They tend to have the weakest social services and the worst results in several categories of health and well-being.
How Women and Children Fare
States hostile to abortion fare worse on a variety of health and well-being outcomes, while states supportive of abortion rights tend to have a more generous social safety net.
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| WHERE ABORTION IS ... | ||
|---|---|---|
| OUTCOME | BANNED OR LIKELY TO BE (24 STATES) | UNLIKELY TO BE BANNED (20 STATES) |
| Children in poverty Pct. below poverty line | 18.5% | 14.8% |
| Uninsured women Pct. of women of reproductive age without health insurance | 15.7% | 9.0% |
| Uninsured children Pct. of children without health insurance | 7.2% | 3.6% |
| Low-birthweight babies Pct. of babies born weighing less than 2.5 kg (5.5 lbs.) | 8.8% | 7.7% |
| Teen births Births per 1,000 females age 15 to 19 | 21.2 | 12.1 |
| Infant mortality Deaths per 1,000 live births | 6.3 | 4.7 |
| Maternal mortality Deaths per 100,000 live births | 25.2 | 15.0 |
Then note the 2% higher rate of infant mortality. Again, compared to pro-choice states, infant mortality is 34% more likely in an anti abortion state.
My guess is a big driver of this carnage is found in the much higher teen births that occur in anti abortion states.
@TankHankerous, in this thread, talked about the sanctity of life. I mention that poster as an example, not to call them out. Theirs is a subjective, neo-Christian, morality-laden argument but I'll leave the imposition of their belief on others alone for the moment. I'll just point out that banning abortion is going to cause death and misery to spiral upward and these sanctimonious Christians aren't prepared for it. So I call BS on their concern for human life.
TankHankerous
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For the record I think women should have the right to vote, but it's not something we should encourage
xtsho
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It should be encouraged. And the good thing is that women do vote and that's who voted to keep abortion legal in Kansas.
TankHankerous
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Let's agree to disagree, friend!
Fogdog
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"not someting we should encourage" Could you explain your reasons for this opinion? One can take your comment as anti democratic or misogynistic but maybe you have a less obnoxious reason.
TankHankerous
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It's supposed to be an absurd comment
Fogdog
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lulz. we need a sarcasm font.
xtsho
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I'm not agreeing to anything.
TankHankerous
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We'll mend this bridge one day, my brother. Let's not let one little disagreement lead us astray.
xtsho
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TankHankerous
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"And Gods look down in anger,
On this poor child
Why so unforgiving and why so cold
Been a long time crossing Bridge of Sighs"
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
because troll.
Fogdog
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He sounds a lot like Bugeye did before he was banned. Especially the sanctimonious reference to "friend" when there is no hope of ever being a friend to somebody who says what he does.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I am using these cats to practice not investing emotion in the premise. The benefits extend into the nonvirtual world, I am finding.
TankHankerous
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I used sanctity, a similar word to sanctimonious in earlier in this very thread. Shame on you for your lack of self awareness at being subliminally influenced by me and your current use of the word. The irony is rich!
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
TankHankerous
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What are you on about?
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
the fundamentally corrupt nature of what calls itself Christianity. What faith meant to the authors of the writ bears no resemblance to the brave new world of indoctrination of and by the toxics.