To cut or not to cut?

Kerowacked

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Jacob, i pulled plants from buckets many times before i switched to bags and never broke a stem. Sorry for your loss but tell me how the soil felt, like a soggy rag?
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Grow Monster

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Great advice thanks. I’ll start watering with 6.5 and that makes sense why my pH has been fucked every which way. With all it needs it’ll be important to keep an eye out on burning, be conservative with the doses ya know?
Also its important to figure out the watering schedule so its not being overwatered. Needs to be semi dry periods for air. When im usually fixing an issue I water less so u can water more often. Example- if it takes 1 gallon of water and 4 days to dry out. Give it only 1 liter everyday. That way u can monitor the things your doing while adding what u need. Where as if u give the gallon u cant do anything but wait the 4 days before u can do anything else. By now in bloom of flower u should know how much water/nutes she consumes in a day or week. If u watch your leaves they'll let u know with a slight droop when its thirsty again.
 

Grow Monster

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Jacob, i pulled plants from buckets many times before i switched to bags and never broke a stem. Sorry for your loss but tell me how the soil felt, like a soggy rag?
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This well rooted big stalk is no comparison to his lil plant. U don't need a pot. Thats basically an air pot without the bucket with holes. Breaking the stem was on him tho. And to be frank even with broken stem I think he either gave up on it or didn't know. U can just tape it back together and it will mend itself. I broke so many stalks early on with lst or scrog net pulling. Or by cloning her out he could've made 10+ plants to get experience from and try different methods of growing. Not to mention yield from 10+ plants. Even with small yields they add up.
 

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VincenzioVonHook

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He says it's only $3 slow release and it works.
Going well so far for 30 days.
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Buds looking good on the other plant for 33 days as well considering how off brand and cheap the shit is, I'll just use a bit less next time round as there's a bit of burn. 3 tbsp was a bit over the top lol.
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I put 2tbsp per pot this time for the younger ones, and bigger pots at that so hopefully the burn stays away this time.
 

VincenzioVonHook

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On another note I've taken plants out of pots and left them a few times outdoors. As long as you shade the roots it's fine.

I had a few that got waterlogged in rain, and one that got root rot.

They all bounced back fine with the pots removed and peroxide applied.
 

Grow Monster

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Going well so far for 30 days.
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Buds looking good on the other plant for 33 days as well considering how off brand and cheap the shit is, I'll just use a bit less next time round as there's a bit of burn. 3 tbsp was a bit over the top lol.
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I put 2tbsp per pot this time for the younger ones, and bigger pots at that so hopefully the burn stays away this time.
Cant wait to see end result. Bud looking nice. What strain is she? Are the rust spots from needing calcium? It would scare me using regular outside dirt/soil. Could be issues already in there before u begin but it would save a bunch of coins. I reuse my medium now.
 

Grow Monster

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On another note I've taken plants out of pots and left them a few times outdoors. As long as you shade the roots it's fine.

I had a few that got waterlogged in rain, and one that got root rot.

They all bounced back fine with the pots removed and peroxide applied.
Yeah well established roots on a healthy plant are resilient. Some cut roots just to make room for new growth or stop root bound.
 

Grow Monster

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Going well so far for 30 days.
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Buds looking good on the other plant for 33 days as well considering how off brand and cheap the shit is, I'll just use a bit less next time round as there's a bit of burn. 3 tbsp was a bit over the top lol.
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I put 2tbsp per pot this time for the younger ones, and bigger pots at that so hopefully the burn stays away this time.
What other nutes are u using with Brunning during veg?
What bloom nutes do u switch to for flowering?
 

VincenzioVonHook

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Cant wait to see end result. Bud looking nice. What strain is she? Are the rust spots from needing calcium? It would scare me using regular outside dirt/soil. Could be issues already in there before u begin but it would save a bunch of coins. I reuse my medium now.
It's a purple Passion Auto from synergy automatic genetics...yep, it's calcium issues (you will notice it on new, top leaves as it's immobile)and it's cause by my medium being a bit hot this time round and locking out.

The 3tbsp was wishful thinking.

On another note I'm a straight savage when it comes to trying random shit, especially possibly diseased soil lol. I've got like a pound or so aside so these are all in the name of fun. No loss here. Sometimes I just like to handicap shit on purpose to help me read the issues it causes.
 

VincenzioVonHook

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What other nutes are u using with Brunning during veg?
What bloom nutes do u switch to for flowering?
Just tap water so far. There's a bit of basalt and lime in there but no actual nutrients bar the brunnings. I won't be adding anything over the more recent planys runs if all works out okay with the one in flower. Edit, there's some castings in there as well.

The yard dirt is cooked in a black plastic bin in the sun for a bit, so some shit probably died, including the food web and hopefully anything dangerous lol. Sounds funny using yard dirt for the microbes, and then cooking it in a bin to kill shit haha. Me not so fast in the head.
 
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Jacob_

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Jacob, i pulled plants from buckets many times before i switched to bags and never broke a stem. Sorry for your loss but tell me how the soil felt, like a soggy rag?
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nice. Your plant looks far more root bound, the size of my plant didn’t allow for that type of pulling, at any skill level. Soil wise, was warm and moist. The stem did break, but only 1/2 way up, so who knows, it’s in weed icu right now. Worse case is, I lose it. My Mac 1 is healing nicely thanks to help from Growmonster, much appreciated. Injured Half dead blueberry muffin, followed by Mac 1
 

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Kerowacked

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Heres one i just pulled a bag off. Dry, except the bottom. From seed started in january but i got clones in bags started in april i could do the same. Think about all the greenhouses selling flats and small pots to transplant. Yours looks like you dropped it on the driveway. Too bad, your grow, my advice was right.8E36F813-D119-4B7A-8A5D-220CFF2EFF46.jpeg
 

Jacob_

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Heres one i just pulled a bag off. Dry, except the bottom. From seed started in january but i got clones in bags started in april i could do the same. Think about all the greenhouses selling flats and small pots to transplant. Yours looks like you dropped it on the driveway. Too bad, your grow, my advice was right.View attachment 5192025
Again, you have a rootbound plant, which can easily be removed; Mine was weeks from being rootbound. Everyone has their own philosophy and way of growing, to each their own and if it works for you, have at it. If soil isn’t held together by the root system, the loose soil will obviously fall to gravity. I’m only 4 years into growing, but my philosophy is, that uprooting a plant (if you’re not transplanting) the risks outweigh the benefits. Which is why we’re all here. To learn from each other. It didn’t work out for me, I appreciate your idea, it just didn’t work out on my end. I say smoke up, no worries!
 
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Kerowacked

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Not rootbound but a good root structure and a lot of peat hold together. The roots in bags stop growing when they get to the bag, its called air trimming. When roots get to the wall of a bucket they keep growing longer around the wall of the bucket til they get rootbound in a big ball. You’ll like growing in some 7 gallon light color bags next time.
 

Jacob_

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Not rootbound but a good root structure and a lot of peat hold together. The roots in bags stop growing when they get to the bag, its called air trimming. When roots get to the wall of a bucket they keep growing longer around the wall of the bucket til they get rootbound in a big ball. You’ll like growing in some 7 gallon light color bags next time.
That’s actually exactly what I wanted to use this time for this exact reason, but we were pretty broke and these were all I had. I drilled some holes around the bucket but it obviously isn’t as good as a bag. It’s a shitty season for most of us in NorCal. 115 today.
 

Grow Monster

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I see u opted to try and save her. Clones would've been way easier.
While it was out the soil u had opportunity to transplant to a pot that actually fit plant size. That should be first thing. Then remove all dead stuff. Even stems and branches with nothing on em. Keep anything green. That will direct all the energy to what's salvageable. Small new growth is what you're looking for. Those will be your bud sites. They will be small.
Its a photo so while outside u cant reveg. U would get more yield if u could let it green back up and gain size before continuing to bud. For yield cloning several small plants and monster cropping (which is reveging)would've gave u the most.
Alot would say u should just take the L and move on. But why not learn more. You don't become a gd gardener if u dont go thru the turmoil and different issues with a plant. If u see the same thing next run u'll already be on top of it.
Maybe a 1-3 gallon pot will do. Or better yet when learning to water properly the Chinese soup container is best. U can actually see what u've watered, when it dries out, root growth etc.
 

Grow Monster

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Front and center is the Chinese food soup container. It was 4 of em in this photo. Plants got almost 2ft while in there. U can even see the roots in the photo.
2nd photo i wanted to monitor the clone cus of the coloring but its mother and siblings all had it and they grew fine.
 

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Jacob_

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Yeah, my lack of experience at cloning at this point (and my lack of time) was more than I wanted to get into, but thanks for letting me know in the future. Yeah I’ll see how she does, our winters are so mild lately I don’t see it dying off ‍♂
 
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