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2022 Massachusetts Outdoor Growers
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MICHI-CAN
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If spraying any fungicide at night? You must double the dose to negate or kill the new growth you fed.
People following manufacturer's labels. Meant to control. Not eliminate fungus. Why buy more if it works??
And @Warfox...... I've seen OK pizza guys plants after your help. Really??
PioneerValleyOG
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I don't know if it was Michi, P59, or Warfox that taught me the h2o2 trick. Also learned the milk trick, and learned that with PM anyway, you need to change the chemical make-up one way or another.
I have learned so much on these pages, especially in this thread. This is where my homies, my Growmies, are. Some very knowledgeable, experienced, capable and humble teachers and students here. And im grateful for all of them.
Passing along something else I learned, is that the Grey splotches are covered with bazillions of spores. When I cut the big leaves that are too infested to save, I carefully put them in a used black pot, never use the scissors on another plant, and at least rinse/wash my hands off before moving to next plant. I then remove the leaves from the area over in the poison ivy compost that never gets recycled into anything.
Wife says bed.
MICHI-CAN
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Bag and send diseased or infected plants to the refuse center. Always wet plants before pruning. Spores cannot travel wet. And never burn PM affected material. Alcohol to clean shears. And you bathe before touching clean plants. A start to hygiene.
Your plants look very happy. I’d say you’re looking at another month or so before chop. Warfox has given you great advice about the need to make war on caterpillars. Drizzled most of yesterday and several downpours today, so I’ll be whacking my plants first thing in the morning with B.t.
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Warfox
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I don’t know what you’re saying, but this is what I do and it has worked very well for me.
Are you trolling this thread?
PioneerValleyOG
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Soooo, after deluge and midnight doctoring, I expected the worst as this was perfect recipe for the worst mold. Butt naked in flip-flops, i bra ed myself for inspection. Sure enough, gross rot on the first branch I saw. I mixed up some h2o2 and went to spray infected areas.
Lo and behold, the only mold was on that branch! So far! Growers Ally worked amazing! Wind is blowing 14 mph, sun is partial, but should be clearing up. I should spray again for mold if it's gonna be this cloudy, as it worked like a charm last time.
I'm just floored at the results of this citric based product. Years ago I'd have began literally cutting losses, and counting down days before it'd all have to go. Or poking my finger into a baseball bat sized cola, and watching it bury up to the knuckle in a sploosh that had rotted from the inside. Will keep posted.
Warfox and Michi, don't know why you guys are arguing. You have both Contributed great things here, both helped people out, me included, and have both been incredibly helpful in your own ways.
The lion and the crocodile both rule their zones, and they both eat the wildebeast.
Anddd, I'd like to see us all getting along here, however, I'll mind my own business.
Lo and behold, the only mold was on that branch! So far! Growers Ally worked amazing! Wind is blowing 14 mph, sun is partial, but should be clearing up. I should spray again for mold if it's gonna be this cloudy, as it worked like a charm last time.
I'm just floored at the results of this citric based product. Years ago I'd have began literally cutting losses, and counting down days before it'd all have to go. Or poking my finger into a baseball bat sized cola, and watching it bury up to the knuckle in a sploosh that had rotted from the inside. Will keep posted.
Warfox and Michi, don't know why you guys are arguing. You have both Contributed great things here, both helped people out, me included, and have both been incredibly helpful in your own ways.
The lion and the crocodile both rule their zones, and they both eat the wildebeast.
Anddd, I'd like to see us all getting along here, however, I'll mind my own business.
PioneerValleyOG
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Would that be the one in Hatfield?
Just lifted branches on the plants with the most dense vegetation to look for rot, so far nothing.
Glad to have the Red Baron helping to protect the plants -
Anyone know what these little flying bugs are? They look like small flying ants or something and every year I find dead ones on the plants -
Waziri Repro bracts are starting to plump up -
Glad to have the Red Baron helping to protect the plants -
Anyone know what these little flying bugs are? They look like small flying ants or something and every year I find dead ones on the plants -Waziri Repro bracts are starting to plump up -
Gettin overloaded with new acronyms and terms. PM, the milk and h202trick, this BT stuff that i should spray on my plant, my heads spinning guys.
I attempted to form a amazon order last night but after medicating you were all spellin greek, is BT a product name? I gotta keep it cheap, not working for money right now just working on myself.
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Kerowacked
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Gets better, there is bti for gnats and btk for cats.
7CardBud
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Bud worms are out in force this year.
What do you guys think about adding Spinosad every 10 days on top of the twice a week BT?
I kinda agree that spraying at night just adds more moisture to a cool environment that PM likes. I have always done
my spraying with a hot coffee in hand at sunrise, so never really thought about it much.
What do you guys think about adding Spinosad every 10 days on top of the twice a week BT?
I kinda agree that spraying at night just adds more moisture to a cool environment that PM likes. I have always done
my spraying with a hot coffee in hand at sunrise, so never really thought about it much.
Fungus gnat, they are harmless to strong mature plants.
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PioneerValleyOG
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PM= powdery mildew, can be controlled with a milk/water spray, the h2o2 basically does the same, 1part hydrogen peroxide, 3 parts water. BT is for caterpillars, which burrow into your best buds, lay eggs and webs and also lead to rot. You can apply the milk or h2o2 mixtures with a small spray bottle, the BT should be sprayed with a pump sprayer (Hudson makes a good one) as you can mix 1 gallon or 5, however many you need. Plants should be sprayed top to bottom. BT also controls and eradicates borer worms, which can wreck a harvest in 48 hours. It's a great preventative, where as the other two sprays, are a treatment to stop PM as it occurs. PM, or powdery mildew is visible as a light grey, or gray spots and splotches. It spreads quickly and is quite destructive.
Botrytis is the Grey mold. The nasty, white fuzzy mold, also called white powdery mildew, or white mold, is Sclerotinia sclerotiorum, and that shits nasty.
Now I could be wrong about some of these types and their effects, but not too wrong. The first thing you'll usually see is the Grey PM. You won't see the nastier stuff til it's deep in your bud, once it surfaces, look carefully and often.
Immediately cut out any infections, place them in a sealed bag and get them far away from your garden. Never throw leaves and cuttings on the ground.
And although you can't see it, there's billions of spores on those little grey splotches, and they can and will burst into the air, and spread. So cut the infected branch right into a bag qnd get it the hell outta there.
Lastly, we come to spider mites. They cause a mold in their own fucked up way, causing major damage.
This year, I haven't but should have, used a mite-cide. Growers Ally again, puts one out. They actually have a 3 in one called Crop Defender that I'm definitely using next season. Spider mites can also move in and spread very quickly, and fuck your whole cha-cha up.
Hope this helps, just a little intel. I've grown outside for a while with no sprays, no chemicals of any kind. With the organic boom, plant based sprays have come a long way. Like citric based fungicides.
Growing in Massachusetts is a humbling experience, one that has many ups qnd downs.
And that's all I got for now.
I hope this absolves you of many headaches that I've gone through.
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PioneerValleyOG
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I found a big white winged bug ant like thing on the tip of a cut branch, I believe the assassin bugs left it there after sucking its guts out.
Kerowacked
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Not an ants legs but the queens do have wings. I’d guess a gnat or midge.
And we’re off -
Spoke too soon, the annual botrytis plague has arrived pretty much on schedule. Found it on both Sholgar and Balkhi, no shock as those are the furthest along and have the most dense flowers and vegetation. Already sprayed them all with B.t. this morning, will let it do its work overnight then hit everything with a dilute 1% peroxide spray tomorrow morning.
Cut the bad crap out of three spots taking small margins of unaffected flower on either side, then sprayed the affected branch area with 3% peroxide. Beyond that whatcha gonna do…
Spoke too soon, the annual botrytis plague has arrived pretty much on schedule. Found it on both Sholgar and Balkhi, no shock as those are the furthest along and have the most dense flowers and vegetation. Already sprayed them all with B.t. this morning, will let it do its work overnight then hit everything with a dilute 1% peroxide spray tomorrow morning.
Cut the bad crap out of three spots taking small margins of unaffected flower on either side, then sprayed the affected branch area with 3% peroxide. Beyond that whatcha gonna do…
PioneerValleyOG
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I'm telling ya, p59, Growers Ally fungicide has made a huge difference. Not only is this the time for rot, this last storm, rain, heat was the perfect mix to create what should have been the beginning of the end of Alpha patch. I sprayed the plants, and am amazed at the results.
Are you spraying BT for botrytis? Just curious.
PioneerValleyOG
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I actually just found out a lot of bad shit about BT, and won't be using it in the future.
cannabislifenetwork.com
I am just like wow. Monsanto? Says it's safe.... worth a read my friends.
Cannabis Sprays Explored: Are BT Toxins Safe for Human Consumption?
BT toxins - Growers can use bacterial pesticides like BT Toxins onto cannabis. This is a crude method to pit pests against microorganisms.
cannabislifenetwork.com
I am just like wow. Monsanto? Says it's safe.... worth a read my friends.