dstroy
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Keep bumping the thread with your totally balanced replies, this is good stuff. A libertarian admits they would stand up a government.
Libertarianism makes you stupid
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Hollatchaboy
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A cheaper, and perhaps better option, would be for women to stop putting out until abortion is legalized again. It would be fast tracked into legalization. Just my opinion.
dstroy
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And all the cases of rape should do what, genius?
Rob Roy
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Not admitting anything, just recounting how a "small government" always seems to grow into a monstrosity...and here we are.
I'm not opposed to people banding together to do what is right, meaning that which each of them has a right to do, defend themseselves and their justly acquired property. I am opposed to the band remaining in place to force their preferences, which are not rights, on others. Can you say the same ? I think not.
To govern somebody is not what I am for. To band together with others to repel those who want to be masters doesn't mean the alliance has to then grow into ANOTHER government, does it ?
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dstroy
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libertarians are for big government, when it suits them. hahahhahahahahhahahhahaha
Rob Roy
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The unintended consequence might be more rape. Clearly the better option is for people to use more love dolls. Then they could use up all that useless hand sanitizer they fear purchased too.
Rob Roy
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That's inaccurate. You see a person claiming to be a libertarian that was for a big government wouldn't actually be a libertarian.
Sort of like how man boobs don't make you a woman.
Herb & Suds
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Over one hundred thousand fewer cases of the flu during the peak speaks differently
Pass that shit around to your family and friends
We will thank you
Rob Roy
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So I should stop banging my realistic bigfoot love doll!!??? You cruel cruel man!!
Herb & Suds
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You know big foots not real ?So I should stop banging my realistic bigfoot love doll!!??? You cruel cruel man!!
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HGCC
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As did the nation of Tonga.
Republic of Minerva - Wikipedia
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I think Rob made an important distinction a while back, he said he is a small l libertarian not a big L libertarian. My assumption is that is some sort of distinction trying to say he isn't part of their weird political party...maybe? It's kinda hard to work with in terms of discussion, it's like defining your own terms.
I dont think the expectations of people are realistic. If they were, we wouldn't really need any government at all, or we could have some kinda altruistic star trek type stuff. As is, the small l libertarian doesn't seem to offer workable solutions to the modern world.
Edit: I'm always gonna mock Libertarians, the big L party and what passes as their more mainstream beliefs. They do silly stuff.
Rob Roy
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Neither is "coercion based government" it's just bad and / or ignorant people pretending to have rights that nobody else has....and you believe in it.
Rob Roy
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Thank you.
Herb & Suds
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Rob Roy
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Free market works in the micro, and hasn't been allowed to be tried in the macro.
The things that threaten government are prohibited by it. Coincidence?
HGCC
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It's hard to have a discussion though man.
"I'm a nazi" "so you hate jews?" "Wtf man, that's Nazis...I'm a nazi, meat is murder dairy is rape. nazi means we are vegans." "...wtf???"
Rob Roy
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That's why I prefer to self describe as a "Voluntaryist" sometimes spelled voluntarist.
Funny thing the website started by a deceased friend Carl Watner on Voluntaryism is NOW difficult to get to thru many search engines....I'm sure that's just a coincidence.
HGCC
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The economic side of the ideology is where a big chunk of the problems are, and the major spot that highlights the "what do you do about bad actors" question.
Not doing business with them might work on a small scale...but well...corporations set rivers on fire when left to their own devices. Their self interest is profit. They operate on size and scale, good luck getting all those consumers to stop buying their stuff. The river is in Cleveland, why do I care, they aren't hurting me directly here in CA...its my economic free will to buy the mega corps more affordable product. Megacorp can then hire a private army to fend of the locals, selling their products far and wide to fund it. Maybe they use all their resources and need more, they have an army....your beliefs rest on them not doing what they have always done and taking more by force.
Did you see how things worked in the 1700s/1800s/early 1900s.
Rob Roy
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No, I want to normalize the idea that power ( unethical control) over others whether in the micro or the macro is not a foregone conclusion. It doesn't have to be one or the other, it could be, dispersed to individual liberty, the aggregate of that individual liberty being the mechanism which then keeps it that way.
As an aside I find it hard to describe solutions to some people who default to a false dichotomy rather than examining things as they actually are .or possibly could be
Not to mention people who falsely think the ills of government regulated markets are the ills of a free market. They aren't.
Rob Roy
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Except corporations in the present are a government created and protected creature. Without that protection and without customer support how long could they set rivers on fire?
I would buy from a service provider that didn't do that, if one were allowed to exist.