2022 Massachusetts Outdoor Growers

[PioneerValleyOG]

With a heater lol

Didn't you harvest in October last year Michi?

 

[Warfox]

…and just-like-that the first plant is cut and hanging .

One of my Blueberry Muffin Tops, I’ve been spot-treating tiny areas of bud-rot for a week or so now. It was quite humid yesterday and overnight and when I checked on her this AM there were even more spots.

She is technically ripe with brown shriveled hairs and cloudy trich’s (though I prefer lots of amber, and buds aren’t as swollen as I’d like). And you know how it goes: the longer ya wait in this situation, the more the rot spreads until there isn’t much left.

large portions of my other BlueberryMuffins are done as well so I’ll mull it over today and go from there.

 

[Poco56]

keep us posted how they fare... allegedly mold bulletproof right? but that's in a tropical environment so... could be different in the cold

@LunarMOG Hey sorry for not getting back to you sooner, as of today the Puna Diesel are holding up really well. No PM or mold to date. That’s the good news but they’re about 1-2 weeks behind my other ladies though they’re stacking up nicely. I just hope the weather holds out. The 10 day outlook seems like it’ll be relatively dry through October 6th here in N. Central MA with temps workable as well.

 

[MICHI-CAN]

Didn't you harvest in October last year Michi?

11/10/2020 standing. And 12/08/2021. LOL. Took more than oil radiator.

 

[PioneerValleyOG]

11/10/2020 standing. And 12/08/2021. LOL. Took more than oil radiator. View attachment 5204124View attachment 5204126

I've no doubt it took a lot more than a heater. Gotta have some very special skills to get that far... December, holy crap! Just amazing to me. Question, are there some things one needs to look out for that length of time, ? I've heard in ripe old age they may herm, or self seed, or foxtail. Have you ever seen any of these or had them happen to you?
Always impressed with your work, be it a heater, a tuba, or a tube of toothpaste, you continue to be the encyclopedia I can turn to for cannabis cultivation knowledge.

 

[MICHI-CAN]

I've no doubt it took a lot more than a heater. Gotta have some very special skills to get that far... December, holy crap! Just amazing to me. Question, are there some things one needs to look out for that length of time, ? I've heard in ripe old age they may herm, or self seed, or foxtail. Have you ever seen any of these or had them happen to you?
Always impressed with your work, be it a heater, a tuba, or a tube of toothpaste, you continue to be the encyclopedia I can turn to for cannabis cultivation knowledge.

Thank you. But you know you are talking to Alfred E. Newman of Mad's "Green thumb Guide".

Seriously I have humidity, pm, dm and a mad rush of animals and insects as we approach that first hard freeze. I left my voles alive. Work wonders on the black cricket hordes I get for a minute.

 

[PioneerValleyOG]

Just sprayed fungicide to try and keep the rot down at least. Last time I sprayed I used the 3 in 1, wanted to get ahead of spider mites after they destroyed a good plant. The 3 in 1 turned my trikes brown, but they quickly kicked out new ones. I didn't wanna burn the plants any further, even though the fungicide alone didn't do that.
So instead of 90ml for two gallons, I used like 86 or maybe 86.5 Soaked em good until there was runoff like it said. I really focused on spraying the bottoms of the leaves and branches and all the way around the colas. If you miss a spot, it's gonna get in there, rot. It was a little windy when I sprayed, so I believe that dried the fungicide before the evening dampness sets in.
The big question that I'm sure is on all our minds, is whether or not to harvest before the Big Storm, where we will probably be getting 3-4 days of non-stop rain. Or, tough it out and deal with the carnage afterward?
For me, I think the answer is a mixed one. That is I may take the most advanced tops and branches, and ones I think may snap, and leave the lower, still large ones.
Ultimately, I'm torn. Usually, weather's always worse on TV than in real life, but with storms like Ian, you just never know.
And it ain't even October. Fml.
This one just keeps getting bigger.

 

[PioneerValleyOG]

@p59teitel you grow a lot of the Ganni and Kush strains, so here's my question. I got this seed, from, ah, a friend, and I believe it's some kind of hash plant? Possibly a Waziri or something I've not grown before?

The bottom branches are putting out this goey larf-ish buds, and as you can see, it looks like it wants to keep going. The tops are, I dunno, I can't see em up close, I could barely spray them without hopping up and down. Second question, if its a hash plant, prob take a couple months to dry, where can u get a set of screens, reasonably priced, to make said hash? If I do decide to get into the hash thing, I don't wanna do the bubble thing, the ice thing, I just wanna make pure original style hash, maybe with no screens, just straight hash off the hands into a ya-ya bowl. I remember when hash was a special treat that came through occasionally, (but usually in keys) And usually blond German hash, even more infrequent, the black hash, which sometimes had the white streaks if opium infused in it.
Sigh.
The good old days.
Back to it, you recognize this? Should I let it go to like snow on the ground? Hang it next to my deer?

 

[Warfox]

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@p59teitel you grow a lot of the Ganni and Kush strains, so here's my question. I got this seed, from, ah, a friend, and I believe it's some kind of hash plant? Possibly a Waziri or something I've not grown before?View attachment 5204202

The bottom branches are putting out this goey larf-ish buds, and as you can see, it looks like it wants to keep going. The tops are, I dunno, I can't see em up close, I could barely spray them without hopping up and down. Second question, if its a hash plant, prob take a couple months to dry, where can u get a set of screens, reasonably priced, to make said hash? If I do decide to get into the hash thing, I don't wanna do the bubble thing, the ice thing, I just wanna make pure original style hash, maybe with no screens, just straight hash off the hands into a ya-ya bowl. I remember when hash was a special treat that came through occasionally, (but usually in keys) And usually blond German hash, even more infrequent, the black hash, which sometimes had the white streaks if opium infused in it.
Sigh.
The good old days.
Back to it, you recognize this? Should I let it go to like snow on the ground? Hang it next to my deer?

“And usually blond German hash, even more infrequent, the black hash, which sometimes had the white streaks if opium infused in it.”

On a tangential note:

I grow poppies in spring and sometimes the fall->early winter as well; they are beautiful and quite durable; a wonderful addition to anyones garden.

These are my latest: I direct sow’d on top of freshly worked garden soil and simply watered lightly for the first week. They were from a jar of bread seed poppy seeds that I purchasedfrom the grocery store, as I enjoy the surprise of varieties I get from them. I also grow standard varieties as well such as Danish flag, Lauren’s Grape, Black Swan, etc.



I also enjoy growing oriental, Spanish, California, etc., poppies.

 

[Kerowacked]

 

[Kerowacked]

My last 2, the other 3 are cooking under led’s

 

[p59teitel]

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@p59teitel you grow a lot of the Ganni and Kush strains, so here's my question. I got this seed, from, ah, a friend, and I believe it's some kind of hash plant? Possibly a Waziri or something I've not grown before?View attachment 5204202

The bottom branches are putting out this goey larf-ish buds, and as you can see, it looks like it wants to keep going. The tops are, I dunno, I can't see em up close, I could barely spray them without hopping up and down. Second question, if its a hash plant, prob take a couple months to dry, where can u get a set of screens, reasonably priced, to make said hash? If I do decide to get into the hash thing, I don't wanna do the bubble thing, the ice thing, I just wanna make pure original style hash, maybe with no screens, just straight hash off the hands into a ya-ya bowl. I remember when hash was a special treat that came through occasionally, (but usually in keys) And usually blond German hash, even more infrequent, the black hash, which sometimes had the white streaks if opium infused in it.
Sigh.
The good old days.
Back to it, you recognize this? Should I let it go to like snow on the ground? Hang it next to my deer?

Could be Waziri, it has the typically thinner colas and more airy branching. Here’s a couple pics of mine for comparison, the first one is the tallest and has stayed at 8 1/2 feet for the last month and the second one right at 8 feet for three weeks -



Here are comparison pics of a Waziri nightstick cola and a much fatter baseball bat Balkh one -

 

[p59teitel]

Re: hash, yeah if we were looking to make hash in a super dry fall climate in Central Asia we’d leave them up or at least leave sheaves of cut plants out until they got snowed upon, and wait to process them until mid-winter. But since we get way too much rain here, they would just turn to rotted mush.

Last year was the first year I really got into making hash. I let the branches dry out in the garage until the end of February, when I bucked the flowers off the branches, crumbed up the flowers by hand (you will get nice finger hash doing this), then silk-screened them into dry sift. This was done in the middle of the night out in the garage with temps in the single digits, as cold weather is needed to really make the trichomes separate from the vegetative material.

For screens, I use a 110 Lines per inch screen that lets particles smaller than around 130 microns through. I then usually will re-sift the first run through a 156 lines per inch screen to refine it a little further - the trichome heads we want to capture are generally around 70-90 microns.

I did try to screen out tiny broken vegetative material using a third 305 lines per inch screen that lets through particles around 40 microns to be discarded, but to be honest I’m not skilled enough yet to do the initial screening without breaking too much of the good stuff up into small pieces. But someone with skills could certainly do it - there are videos online showing Afghans putting the sift into cloth pouches and lightly shaking out the tiny bits of vegetative material to produce a superior product that is closer to full melt.

Once done, I store the dry sift in the freezer - not the fridge as any residual moisture will cause it to mold. Aging it in the freezer for several months seems to make for better hash than processing it immediately.

To convert the dry sift into hash, I’ve experimented with three methods: using a pollen press, hand-rolling it into balls, and making heel hash. The heel hash method seems to work best for me: what I do is take 7 grams of dry sift, put it onto Saran Wrap and use a dropper to add 2 grams of water, wrap it into a small square or rectangle, then put it into a small ziplock sandwich bag (to keep the water from leaking out into my sneaker). I put it in my sneaker and walk around on it for the day, turning the package over about once per hour so both sides are impacted. The combination of body heat and weight pressure will convert the blonde trichomes into a semi-firm dark brown chunk.

Once done doing that, I leave the hash pieces out to dry for a few days, so that they don’t get moldy. You can store long-term in the freezer, as again the fridge can allow mold to form.

Here is some that I made earlier this month, starting out with an ounce of dry sift. As you can see from the scale reading the water has evaporated and has left firm dark hash chunks ready to smoke -

 

[Poco56]

Re: hash, yeah if we were looking to make hash in a super dry fall climate in Central Asia we’d leave them up or at least leave sheaves of cut plants out until they got snowed upon, and wait to process them until mid-winter. But since we get way too much rain here, they would just turn to rotted mush.

Last year was the first year I really got into making hash. I let the branches dry out in the garage until the end of February, when I bucked the flowers off the branches, crumbed up the flowers by hand (you will get nice finger hash doing this), then silk-screened them into dry sift. This was done in the middle of the night out in the garage with temps in the single digits, as cold weather is needed to really make the trichomes separate from the vegetative material.

For screens, I use a 110 Lines per inch screen that lets particles smaller than around 130 microns through. I then usually will re-sift the first run through a 156 lines per inch screen to refine it a little further - the trichome heads we want to capture are generally around 70-90 microns.

I did try to screen out tiny broken vegetative material using a third 305 lines per inch screen that lets through particles around 40 microns to be discarded, but to be honest I’m not skilled enough yet to do the initial screening without breaking too much of the good stuff up into small pieces. But someone with skills could certainly do it - there are videos online showing Afghans putting the sift into cloth pouches and lightly shaking out the tiny bits of vegetative material to produce a superior product that is closer to full melt.

Once done, I store the dry sift in the freezer - not the fridge as any residual moisture will cause it to mold. Aging it in the freezer for several months seems to make for better hash than processing it immediately.

To convert the dry sift into hash, I’ve experimented with three methods: using a pollen press, hand-rolling it into balls, and making heel hash. The heel hash method seems to work best for me: what I do is take 7 grams of dry sift, put it onto Saran Wrap and use a dropper to add 2 grams of water, wrap it into a small square or rectangle, then put it into a small ziplock sandwich bag (to keep the water from leaking out into my sneaker). I put it in my sneaker and walk around on it for the day, turning the package over about once per hour so both sides are impacted. The combination of body heat and weight pressure will convert the blonde trichomes into a semi-firm dark brown chunk.

Once done doing that, I leave the hash pieces out to dry for a few days, so that they don’t get moldy. You can store long-term in the freezer, as again the fridge can allow mold to form.

Here is some that I made earlier this month, starting out with an ounce of dry sift. As you can see from the scale reading the water has evaporated and has left firm dark hash chunks ready to smoke -

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@p59teitel Wow… that’s about a good a break down in layman’s terms anyone could ask for! Thank you sharing.

 

[PioneerValleyOG]

Re: hash, yeah if we were looking to make hash in a super dry fall climate in Central Asia we’d leave them up or at least leave sheaves of cut plants out until they got snowed upon, and wait to process them until mid-winter. But since we get way too much rain here, they would just turn to rotted mush.

Last year was the first year I really got into making hash. I let the branches dry out in the garage until the end of February, when I bucked the flowers off the branches, crumbed up the flowers by hand (you will get nice finger hash doing this), then silk-screened them into dry sift. This was done in the middle of the night out in the garage with temps in the single digits, as cold weather is needed to really make the trichomes separate from the vegetative material.

For screens, I use a 110 Lines per inch screen that lets particles smaller than around 130 microns through. I then usually will re-sift the first run through a 156 lines per inch screen to refine it a little further - the trichome heads we want to capture are generally around 70-90 microns.

I did try to screen out tiny broken vegetative material using a third 305 lines per inch screen that lets through particles around 40 microns to be discarded, but to be honest I’m not skilled enough yet to do the initial screening without breaking too much of the good stuff up into small pieces. But someone with skills could certainly do it - there are videos online showing Afghans putting the sift into cloth pouches and lightly shaking out the tiny bits of vegetative material to produce a superior product that is closer to full melt.

Once done, I store the dry sift in the freezer - not the fridge as any residual moisture will cause it to mold. Aging it in the freezer for several months seems to make for better hash than processing it immediately.

To convert the dry sift into hash, I’ve experimented with three methods: using a pollen press, hand-rolling it into balls, and making heel hash. The heel hash method seems to work best for me: what I do is take 7 grams of dry sift, put it onto Saran Wrap and use a dropper to add 2 grams of water, wrap it into a small square or rectangle, then put it into a small ziplock sandwich bag (to keep the water from leaking out into my sneaker). I put it in my sneaker and walk around on it for the day, turning the package over about once per hour so both sides are impacted. The combination of body heat and weight pressure will convert the blonde trichomes into a semi-firm dark brown chunk.

Once done doing that, I leave the hash pieces out to dry for a few days, so that they don’t get moldy. You can store long-term in the freezer, as again the fridge can allow mold to form.

Here is some that I made earlier this month, starting out with an ounce of dry sift. As you can see from the scale reading the water has evaporated and has left firm dark hash chunks ready to smoke -

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As usual, p59, your skill set is far above mine. When you mentioned the sneaker method, I was confused, as it was never mentioned that you walked on said sneaker, only that you put the hash in the sneaker, and I was thinking, why would one do that? LMAO.
Thanks for the info, it sounded dreadfully more complicated the first time I read it, and the second, but by the third time I processed a visual map and that's kind of how my brain works. I don't think you wear Nikes ....
Waziri is the hit, I'm sure of it, I went out a little intoxicated one evening and rearranged my pots for better sunlight distribution, didn't redo my map... but I'm certain it's the waziri, very, very, sticky, and gassy, almost with a pepper back end. A plant like that has to be more susceptible to rot, sprayed her last night, the few white spots I saw are gone, but, as you can see, I've got some fairly decent colas I don't want to lose, they are pretty cloudy, a few milky, but I don't want to lose this or any plant to rot. The plant I took apart today sits far away from my patch, riddled with mold, I was able to save a few ozs from her. Like a dumb ass, as I tore the mold away from the buds I saved, my hands got sticky, I then, the dumbest part, checked the trikes with a loup, which requires a lot of hands on. Realizing what I did, I gave them a quick h2o2 spray and counted my blessings I'd just sprayed fungicide last night.
Should be ok.
So October is here upon us, and I'm tortured to at least do a partial harvest. The colas are plumped up nice, colors are coming in, there are plants that clearly need and will go longer. I'm just at that junk-twisting stage of what to do. Popping seeds April 16th this year also gave me a head start, I dont want them to go too long, ahhh, shit. I'm just repeating myself.
Thanks for the info. Love the poppies, ever consider processing them for addition to hash or consumption for pain?

 

[PioneerValleyOG]

“And usually blond German hash, even more infrequent, the black hash, which sometimes had the white streaks if opium infused in it.”

On a tangential note:

I grow poppies in spring and sometimes the fall->early winter as well; they are beautiful and quite durable; a wonderful addition to anyones garden.

These are my latest: I direct sow’d on top of freshly worked garden soil and simply watered lightly for the first week. They were from a jar of bread seed poppy seeds that I purchasedfrom the grocery store, as I enjoy the surprise of varieties I get from them. I also grow standard varieties as well such as Danish flag, Lauren’s Grape, Black Swan, etc.



I also enjoy growing oriental, Spanish, California, etc., poppies.



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Gotta love the Danish flag!!!

 

[Warfox]

As usual, p59, your skill set is far above mine. When you mentioned the sneaker method, I was confused, as it was never mentioned that you walked on said sneaker, only that you put the hash in the sneaker, and I was thinking, why would one do that? LMAO.
Thanks for the info, it sounded dreadfully more complicated the first time I read it, and the second, but by the third time I processed a visual map and that's kind of how my brain works. I don't think you wear Nikes ....
Waziri is the hit, I'm sure of it, I went out a little intoxicated one evening and rearranged my pots for better sunlight distribution, didn't redo my map... but I'm certain it's the waziri, very, very, sticky, and gassy, almost with a pepper back end. A plant like that has to be more susceptible to rot, sprayed her last night, the few white spots I saw are gone, but, as you can see, I've got some fairly decent colas I don't want to lose, they are pretty cloudy, a few milky, but I don't want to lose this or any plant to rot. The plant I took apart today sits far away from my patch, riddled with mold, I was able to save a few ozs from her. Like a dumb ass, as I tore the mold away from the buds I saved, my hands got sticky, I then, the dumbest part, checked the trikes with a loup, which requires a lot of hands on. Realizing what I did, I gave them a quick h2o2 spray and counted my blessings I'd just sprayed fungicide last night.
Should be ok.
So October is here upon us, and I'm tortured to at least do a partial harvest. The colas are plumped up nice, colors are coming in, there are plants that clearly need and will go longer. I'm just at that junk-twisting stage of what to do. Popping seeds April 16th this year also gave me a head start, I dont want them to go too long, ahhh, shit. I'm just repeating myself.
Thanks for the info. Love the poppies, ever consider processing them for addition to hash or consumption for pain?

Nah, I just grow them for their natural beauty alongside a plethora of my other annuals and perennials. The only way i’d consider that is if civilization broke down and such things became necessary for medicine or trade/sale.

 

[Warfox]

Blueberry Muffin Top’s - SUPER impressed with just how quick this strain flowers. I’m thinking about perhaps harvesting this coming weekend(the ones with 90% red shriveled hairs, anyway): what are your opinions on this? Or I may just see it through to second week or October and give ‘em the time they probably truly deserve. It’s just that rain is coming this weekend.


Blue Bubble - obviously weeks behind the Blueberry Muffin Tops.

 

[PioneerValleyOG]

Blueberry Muffin Top’s - SUPER impressed with just how quick this strain flowers. I’m thinking about perhaps harvesting this coming weekend(the ones with 90% red shriveled hairs, anyway): what are your opinions on this? Or I may just see it through to second week or October and give ‘em the time they probably truly deserve. It’s just that rain is coming this weekend.

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Blue Bubble - obviously weeks behind the Blueberry Muffin Tops.
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Pretty pretty pictures.

 

[p59teitel]

Blueberry Muffin Top’s - SUPER impressed with just how quick this strain flowers. I’m thinking about perhaps harvesting this coming weekend(the ones with 90% red shriveled hairs, anyway): what are your opinions on this? Or I may just see it through to second week or October and give ‘em the time they probably truly deserve. It’s just that rain is coming this weekend.


Blue Bubble - obviously weeks behind the Blueberry Muffin Tops.

Muffin Tops look right about where my fastest Sholgar is, all cloudy trichs but no amber yet. I’m holding out; so far the rot has been manageable and today was the first day since it first showed up two weeks ago that I didn’t find any new spots. I did find a caterpillar who seemed in distress, hopefully from the B.t. I whacked them with yesterday.

And yeah, your Blue Bubble is a Halloween plant. Probably still two weeks ahead of this one though lol -