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Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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So a couple weekends ago, I am in a sorta medium sized city seeing a music show. The venue is right spang in the middle of a college nightlife section of town and I wanted to grab a hundred dollars of cash before the show. We parked and paid the kiosk with our card and proceeded to walk down the main strip. Hundreds of college students, bars, dispensaries, clouds of weed, tattoo places, etc.. We start looking for an ATM. Nothing. I finally see one in a tattoo shop - its a (totally fucking useless thing called) a bitcoin ATM. So I go in. Its unplugged. Of course it is. So we continue, pass another dozen bars... nothing. So there is a Kroger and a Walgreens down at the end - we head there. Nothing at the Walgreens. We can see three ATM looking things at the Kroger so we head there. Two of them are who the fuck knows what... I forget but they were obviously not ATMs once we got within 50 yards. No fear, one of them is, or so it appears. We get up to the thing, and it took a while to figure it out, but the goddamn thing is a machine to sell your old cell phone. You punch in what your phone is and put it in the hole and you get Earth-monies for it. Obviously not cash because they are going to need to confirm that it is what you said it was I suppose.

Anyway... cash is dead. We didn't get any. We didn't need any. It has been two weeks since then. I still have the same, lone 1$ bill in my wallet.
 
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orangejesus

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conservative said:
Yeah, any opinions on the 3.5l eco vs the v8 in terms of reliability? 3.5 can tow more but the v8 has been around a long time. although, the parts have probably been modified like they use aluminum caps now I think for example.
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any turbo engine simply has more parts that can break - and the 3.5 has two of them.
I opted for the 5.0 as - at the time - I was considering having the dealer add a supercharger; my state has strict emissions guidelines, so some of the straight-forward mods to the 3.5 aren't CARB approved.
 
DoubleAtotheRON

DoubleAtotheRON

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I have the 3.5 Ecoboost. It's been around a while with millions of miles testing, but before my purchase, I went back to talk to the Service Manager to ask if they had ever replaced a turbo on a 3.5... negative. So that gave me some confidence.
 
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conservative

conservative

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DoubleAtotheRON said:
I have the 3.5 Ecoboost. It's been around a while with millions of miles testing, but before my purchase, and went back to talk to the Service Manager to ask if they had ever replaced a turbo on a 3.5... negative. So that gave me some confidence.
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Thanks for that. I heard you can get carbon build up due to the turbo. But I drive like a granny and do all my oil changes.
 
conservative

conservative

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orangejesus said:
any turbo engine simply has more parts that can break - and the 3.5 has two of them.
I opted for the 5.0 as - at the time - I was considering having the dealer add a supercharger; my state has strict emissions guidelines, so some of the straight-forward mods to the 3.5 aren't CARB approved.
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Yep this I learned after purchase, a friend mentioned he wished I had talked to him first. The reality is though that the v8 has changed parts quite a bit an ain't the same engine it was in the 70's or 90's even. Still a great engine and very reliable. I have the 3.5 because I wanted the 11k towing capacity with the regular/factory tow package. I am thinking I maybe should have done the v8 but DoubleAtotheRon has reassured me somewhat.
 
Drop That Sound

Drop That Sound

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orangejesus said:
If I had a nickel for every time I've read one of these 'I can do it cheaper with old shit 'cause I'm cheap' I would have been able to pay for my $60k F150 in cash, instead of only financing 2/3rds of it (legitimately no need of GAP). Also, body is aluminum - not plastic - so your opinion is misinformed. Props to you for having enough room for four junked cars so you can make repairs; I decided living in a junkyard isn't for me, so it made sense to buy new and opt for the vehicle service contract (purchased at dealer cost).

WTF do most people need a 1 ton dually with a big block for? There's a reason Ford no longer makes passenger vehicles (with the exception of the Mustang) and why the Lightening and all EV trucks have long waiting lists. Not to mention any new vehicle is much, much, MUCH safer than anything from the 70s ( not to mention handles better, more power, less maintenance)
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That's a lot of nickels!

I did say tin can though, lol. I meant plasticy as in the interior.. NM all the additional the body parts, safety equipment, although functional for sure... It's all about the chassis that your driving around IMO. Everything else really is cheaply made as possible...


60k for this:

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When these are dang near free ( I got 4-5 of them alone..), by the dozens:
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conservative

conservative

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Drop That Sound said:
That's a lot of nickels!

I did say tin can though, lol. I meant plasticy as in the interior.. NM all the additional the body parts, safety equipment, although functional for sure... It's all about the chassis that your driving around IMO. Everything else really is cheaply made as possible...


60k for this:

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When these are dang near free ( I got 4-5 of them alone..), by the dozens:
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You have a good point..... :-) Are those 4x4?
 
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orangejesus

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Drop That Sound said:
That's a lot of nickels!

I did say tin can though, lol. I meant plasticy as in the interior.. NM all the additional the body parts, safety equipment, although functional for sure... It's all about the chassis that your driving around IMO. Everything else really is cheaply made as possible...


60k for this:

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When these are dang near free ( I got 4-5 of them alone..), by the dozens:
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you're comparing a truck from 50 years ago to one from today based solely on the chassis? that's... odd. there's a reason they drop classic bodies on new frames, and not the other way around.
I think you need to get behind the wheel of something built within the last ten years.

biggest difference between cars from yesteryear and today? the tech - and that is driving much of the cost.
somewhat dated, but - in 2006 the cost of a main wiring harness for an Audi A8 was $26k... just the main harness, no sensors, control modules, etc.
nothing has become cheaper - and EVERY car has become more complicated.
your average 70s car? a very simple harness, maybe a sensor or two, certainly no control modules.
headlights - worse
radio - worse
suspension - worse
seating - worse (what's lumbar support?)
safety - way worse (note the non-collapsing steering column in your example above)
mileage - worse (though my 69 396 Malibu got the same mileage as my truck does with a 5.0)
 
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orangejesus

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conservative said:
Thanks for that. I heard you can get carbon build up due to the turbo. But I drive like a granny and do all my oil changes.
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let the car idle so the turbos can cool down before shutting off the ignition; yes - the oil lines can get coked up (not that kind) due to the excessive heat
and don't drive like granny - hopefully yours has the multi drive modes... put it in Sport, top-off with 91 (remember when it was 92?), and make that bitch walk and talk.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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orangejesus said:
you're comparing a truck from 50 years ago to one from today based solely on the chassis? that's... odd. there's a reason they drop classic bodies on new frames, and not the other way around.
I think you need to get behind the wheel of something built within the last ten years.

biggest difference between cars from yesteryear and today? the tech - and that is driving much of the cost.
somewhat dated, but - in 2006 the cost of a main wiring harness for an Audi A8 was $26k... just the main harness, no sensors, control modules, etc.
nothing has become cheaper - and EVERY car has become more complicated.
your average 70s car? a very simple harness, maybe a sensor or two, certainly no control modules.
headlights - worse
radio - worse
suspension - worse
seating - worse (what's lumbar support?)
safety - way worse (note the non-collapsing steering column in your example above)
mileage - worse (though my 69 396 Malibu got the same mileage as my truck does with a 5.0)
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either the Malibu had a long final drive ratio, or the truck had a very short one, I’m guessing.
 
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