Soil?

Hiphophippo

Hiphophippo

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If your looking to do something cheap you can pick up a large bag of jobs garden tone it has everything for veg cycle and some compost and perlite mix and water and wait a few weeks and she’ll be ready to use or you can get a little better with some extras like kelp meal and bone meal with the garden tone are you trying to build a living soil or just a good buffered soil. I say if you can’t spend the money on good soil it’s really not worth the time to make it because you’ll just be chasing problems. What kind of a budget you working with? What’s available to you?
 
VincenzioVonHook

VincenzioVonHook

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My go to is as follows

10L Coco fibre
10L peat moss
10L fresh vermicompost (not dry)
10L uxp pumice or perlite
2.5L zeolite
2.5L coarse propagation sand
3tbsp volcanic rock dust
3tbsp gypsum
3tbsp palagonite basalt dust

Creates a nice mineralised mix but doesn't have much feed. Has plenty of food for microbes.

You can add 1/4 cup each of neem, kelp, coconut and alfalfa meal to the mix for an organic blend, or feed an easy base salt from week three or four onwards.
 
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inth3shadowz

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Save yourself a headache and grab a bag or brick of coco or promix...organic requires time to "cook" and be available for your plant, and requires large containers for proper microbial activity blah blah blah. I actually love organic growing outdoors, I just don't find the need to be mixing all that shit for indoors unless you have tons of room for beds.
 
speedwell68

speedwell68

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The absolute easiest way to get a good reliable soil mix is to buy it, it doesn't have to be anything fancy like Fox Farms either. I go to the local garden centre and buy off the shelf stuff. If it suitable for homegrown tomatoes, then it will be just fine for weed. I don't know where you are so can't provide any specific brands, but I use either Westland Jack's Magic or Westland New Horizon Tomato. There will be similar where you are.
 
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Sharon Peters

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obijohn said:
Ocean Forest is the way to go IMO. Has everything you need rather than messing with making a mix, buying all the stuff you need for it etc.
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That is what I bought to start my indoor grow. What kind, if any of nutrients did you use later in the growing cycle?
 
Hiphophippo

Hiphophippo

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Sharon Peters said:
That is what I bought to start my indoor grow. What kind, if any of nutrients did you use later in the growing cycle?
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I use dry amendments now and build my soil up when I was running only fox farm I would use the advance nutrient line for flower. That’s when I was running liquid nutes. Now I use the Gaia green 4-4-4 with some extra kelp meal and worm castings I also add in dolomite lime and a few other things and use the Gaia green 2-8-4 and compost when I top dress for flower power
 
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inth3shadowz

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Boatguy said:
So full of misinformation... "cooking" is in no way required for organic growing.
Small containers are fine as long as you're not attempting a water only or no till living soil.
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Think about this...if you're growing in organic soil, the soil needs to stay moist to keep the matter active. In a smaller pot, it dries out quicker as they get bigger which means you'll be watering more, top dressing more etc just to keep up with it. Why not do a large pot and keep them happy? I keep my pots in Coco about 2.5-3.5 gal for finish because it's synthetic and they don't have the same food web as soil. But hey you're the expert right?
 
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Sharon Peters

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Hiphophippo said:
I use dry amendments now and build my soil up when I was running only fox farm I would use the advance nutrient line for flower. That’s when I was running liquid nutes. Now I use the Gaia green 4-4-4 with some extra kelp meal and worm castings I also add in dolomite lime and a few other things and use the Gaia green 2-8-4 and compost when I top dress for flower power
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Thank you!
 
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bubba73

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If you get into the practice of slurries , so from the start you know what type of soil your dealing with , how hot the soil is and the PH …. The only reason why I reuse and amend soil is 1. Save a few $$$ and not wasting soil …
 
Boatguy

Boatguy

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inth3shadowz said:
Think about this...if you're growing in organic soil, the soil needs to stay moist to keep the matter active. In a smaller pot, it dries out quicker as they get bigger which means you'll be watering more, top dressing more etc just to keep up with it. Why not do a large pot and keep them happy? I keep my pots in Coco about 2.5-3.5 gal for finish because it's synthetic and they don't have the same food web as soil. But hey you're the expert right?
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I am in no way an expert. I have grown plenty of plants organically in a small as 2 gallon pots.
It isnt really that complicated, or require any hocus pocus. Just take some promix or similar potting soil, add the recommended dose of your favorite dry organic fertilizer and you are good to go. When they get hungry you can either topdress with more, or feed with an organic liquid nute as needed.

Not sure why you seem angry.
Check out the dte website. They actually recommend against cooking their products and make that clear. It is good to go right out of the box.
 
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