CaliRootz88
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Tissue culture cloning is the future. If done once annually to your collective the benefits are there. It can clean up viroids, pathogens, diseases etc.
Can i clone a clone?
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xtsho
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At the expense of genetic diversity. Closer and closer towards Monsanto methods and GMO corn we go.
PJ Diaz
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Depends on the type of tissue culture. Nodal tissue culture won't "clean up" plants, it needs to be apical meristem tissue culture, because the cell division is happening so quickly at that point, that it's typically not yet infected by a viroid which has infected the plant at large..
PJ Diaz
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How is it any different than cloning in terms of loss of genetic diversity?
xtsho
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My post didn't really capture my thoughts on the subject. The post I was replying to had "clean up viroids, pathogens, diseases etc. " It's not a stretch to go from there to a little bit more and then a little bit more. Eventually those little bits add up and all of a sudden it's a big bit.
Over the years I've seen a trend in how certain things are perceived. Ten years ago if you were to mention tissue culture to cannabis growers you would most likely receive an onslaught of posts from people that were totally against it for any reason. Now nobody pays attention to it and in fact there are threads where people talk about it as something great or it's the future and nada. No outrage at all.
Cannabis is just another agricultural product and methods used on other agricultural products to increase yield, prevent disease, etc... will and are being used. It's inevitable that all tools available will eventually be used to make a Super Cannabis Plant. It may be just meristem culture to eliminate a pathogen. Tomorrow it might be to "Let's just fix this" and "It won't hurt to add that". It's already being done.
My post wasn't pertinent to the actual topic of the thread which the answer to is yes you can clone a clone. It was more in response to the concept of tissue culture, cannabis, and the future which is a topic that deserves it's own thread.
PJ Diaz
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I hear what you're saying, but I think that tissue culture is quite different than things like crispr and genetic modification. All it is is micro-propagation. You've gotta have a real good eye and steady hand for tissue culture however, like a surgeon.
BongerChonger
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Leaf variegation can be the result of pests/disease somewhere way back in the genepool too.
Thrip damage and Thrip related disease for instance.
Some variegation looks a lot like the pattern of thrip damage, just blown up to a larger scale.
It's testing my own Hort. knowledge, but I believe you'll find it to be mostly true.
BongerChonger
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Absolutely, yes.
Preferably off a mature plant. Few months old.
Whenever. Doesn't have to be off a mature plant at all. Totally up to you.
PJ Diaz
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Apical meristem tissue culture would clear leaf variegation caused by disease (such as tobacco mosiac virus) right up, however it wouldn't clear up any leaf variegations related to leaf tissue genetic mutations. Interestingly enough however, propagations from root cuttings would not pass on the same genetic mutation related to such variegation, as the mutation is local to the leaf tissue itself.
I'm about two weeks away from harvesting a clone's clone's clone's clone's bag seed herm growout. 3rd clone out from bag seed actually did a monster. Really like the cultivar/strain but have no idea what it is. Previous iterations all yielded over 8 oz dry. They were all in 5 gal pots. This one is in a 3 gal so may be a little less but not by much. Short answer is yes. Probably a good idea to take 2 or more clones and keep the hardier one(s).