Because it was asked? Lets play it..that's what we're here for.
Sinema Leaves Democratic Party
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Rob Roy
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Nice creative use of the word "febrile", even if you included it in a post which maligns the source and doesn't address the idea.
Respect for your word creativity.
hanimmal
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You just making this up? Or parroting what you 'heard'?
Because I have not seen any actual Democrats up in arms about this. Schumer even said she gets to keep her committees.
This is a purely political play on her part, it might work out it might not, but it is not a big deal at all at the end of the day since she is still going to caucus with the Democrats. For now at least, who knows this could be just another way to own the news cycle a little longer and she will go full Tulsi Gabbard at some point she wants to own the news cycle down the road.
You are wrong.
xtsho
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Time for the Democrat and Republican parties to go the way of MySpace. They're not needed and they're both corrupt. They have become gatekeepers to the kingdom controlled and are controlled by a few powerful people. We need more politicians like Sinema to break away from the centralized corrupt political entities. Sinema leaving the Democratic party is good for our Democracy. It's just a crack in the wall for now but hopefully it will lead to the wall falling down.
xtsho
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Yes I just made this up. My thoughts and nobody else's. I woke up with it on my mind.
I like how now you say it's no big deal. Yesterday you wanted to tar and feather the woman now you're repeating the same things I said yesterday about it not being a big deal and how she's going to caucus with the Democrats. Maybe she will and maybe she won't. One thing is certain, the Democrats can't control her and they can't run a candidate and win.
Sinema just drove a stake through the heart of the Democrat machine in Arizona.
Rob Roy
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Your argument is rather incomplete. Care to offer any evidence of WHY I am wrong?
I'm not wrong, but your answer could be interesting.
xtsho
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The freedom Sinema must feel today. Free from the chains that bound her. Free from the Democratic party. Free to participate in the political process as herself and not following some script given to her by the masters of the Democratic party. If she wins in 2024 it will be because of the people not the power and money of a corrupt political party.
I don't owe you anything
Why don't you get out of my life.
Through it all the memories cling
And I can't sleep at night.
I don't owe you anything
Why don't you get out of my life.
Through it all the memories cling
And I can't sleep at night.
xtsho
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The sooner the better.
As much as people like to 'go green'..Green Party isn't part of a two party system and in close race you will have wasted your vote and more than likely help change the course of history by not making it count.If Democrats manage to hold on to the House and Senate, it will be in spite of the party brand, not because of it, according to a pre-election national poll. Despite a roster of GOP candidates who are extreme by any standard, voters see Democrats as just as extreme, as well as far less concerned about the issues that most worry them. A potential saving grace for Democrats is the strength of candidates who have established themselves as more moderate than the party brand as a whole, which when paired with the weakness of their Republican opponents may pull some across the finish line. But if this brand problem persists, Democrats will face an uphill climb in 2024 and beyond.
Third Way
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xtsho
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I hope he does.
www.newsweek.com
www.motherjones.com
Calls build for Manchin to follow Sinema in leaving Democratic Party
Many social media users posted about the West Virginia senator after news broke that Arizona Senator Kyrsten Sinema is registering as an independent.
www.newsweek.com
SCOOP: Manchin tells associates he's considering leaving the Democratic Party and has an exit plan
He could pull the trigger if he doesn't get his way on the Build Back Better bill.
www.motherjones.com
So, she doesn't know where her desk is going to be..won't go to Dem breakfast meetings, but will get on Committee (wonder what she will do with that info?) says she'll Caucus with Dems but she doesn't know which side her desk will be on.
Sinema is welcome for Same Sex Marriage Codification*.
*Still doesn't know where her desk will be.
xtsho
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She can do whatever she wants. She was elected by the people not the Democratic party. It will be the people that decide her fate and not a few powerful people that control the Democratic party. If she wants to hang out with Mitch McConnell, Susan Collins, Bernie Sanders, Maggie Hassan that's her choice.
Coffee/screen.
xtsho
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Voted 93% with the Biden agenda. More than Bernie Sanders. Democrats should be ashamed at the way they're treating her. They talk about hate on the right yet here they are doing the same to Sinema.
www.newsweek.com
And here's that hack AOC lighting up twitter with her attacks. What has AOC ever done besides make the next headline? Shouldn't she be out shopping for what's she's going to wear to the next VIP event she attends?
Kyrsten Sinema has voted with Joe Biden more often than Bernie Sanders
Within the Democratic Caucus, Sinema votes more in line with Biden than five of her non-Republican colleagues.
www.newsweek.com
And here's that hack AOC lighting up twitter with her attacks. What has AOC ever done besides make the next headline? Shouldn't she be out shopping for what's she's going to wear to the next VIP event she attends?
xtsho
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I'm probably not far behind.
Correct. Also about the pic with Baldwin, Collins..was a media faux paus (mainstream not cable) when they used that footage while they did voice over regarding her announcement. Mainstream fact checkers aren't quick enough to stop the basic newscaster from putting their foots in their mouths..they make political and historical mistakes all the time. I have to take cable in small pieces and watch Deadline Whitehouse with Nichole Wallace..good guests, thoughtful interaction..no jumping up and down in your chair and it's two hours, so she covers it all. MSNBC triggers my PTSD..I need calm in my reporting and Nichole is.
Herb & Suds
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The irony of a guy rocking an ape avatar claiming others are racist
Since I walked away from the Republican Party and joined the evil democrats
Does that mean the beliefs I had forty years ago are the ones I still have today ?
Because that seems to be the basis of your argument
Granted I’m not black but I know racist when I see them and Rant Paul and the GOP of today has gone full blown racist
I have no respect for a party going backwards toward civil war
I guess it’s the American in me
xtsho
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I notice that you don't seem to be carrying a pitchfork like others are. Sinema did nothing wrong. The Democrats were going to borrow a page from the Republican playbook and primary her because they couldn't control her 100%. Anyone that cares about Democracy should see Sinema declaring as Independent as a good thing. It's the people that should decide not some political party that chooses who gets to run. I hope that many others follow her from both parties.
HGCC
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I am good with the ideas of more parties and not having blind allegiances. Politics should be more local anyway, the democrat of Iowa is a republican in the northeast. Also, I like that a party has to earn your vote.
Still don't have the slightest clue what xtshos grievances are with the dems as a party, but that's cool. Only thing I ever figured out was he was mad about blm riots messing up his city, but eh, who knows. I'm mad that the homeless have messed up ours, we are dem run so they are responsible for the situation...more so than they were for riots, but still, I see two options and it's D or R. Feel free to go with a different one, but keep in mind what the other guy is doing and if you split to stay fully pure with your views then you may wind up with the least desired option.
It's a catch 22 situation, I'm really jealous of those other countries with like 10 parties and proportional rule that allows the 2% of total voters that vote for the green party or whatever to have a say. That isn't how it works here. Your minority 3rd party vote means nothing. We can't get to something better as if one side or the other sheds voters to a 3rd party, then the other monolith crushes them both.
Still don't have the slightest clue what xtshos grievances are with the dems as a party, but that's cool. Only thing I ever figured out was he was mad about blm riots messing up his city, but eh, who knows. I'm mad that the homeless have messed up ours, we are dem run so they are responsible for the situation...more so than they were for riots, but still, I see two options and it's D or R. Feel free to go with a different one, but keep in mind what the other guy is doing and if you split to stay fully pure with your views then you may wind up with the least desired option.
It's a catch 22 situation, I'm really jealous of those other countries with like 10 parties and proportional rule that allows the 2% of total voters that vote for the green party or whatever to have a say. That isn't how it works here. Your minority 3rd party vote means nothing. We can't get to something better as if one side or the other sheds voters to a 3rd party, then the other monolith crushes them both.
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