We don't have a Parliament that allows for it..we are the Great American Experiment and like it or not it's two parties- we have faction within each of the two which is almost like proportional rule.
Sinema Leaves Democratic Party
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Rob Roy
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It's actually a female Sasquatch and no, you don't know why it's my avatar, but it certainly isn't racist or racist motivated from my intentions.The irony of a guy rocking an ape avatar claiming others are racist
The rest of your post is political babble about your beliefs of how you switched from one plantation to another plantation.
I literally burped in Rant Pauls face once a long time ago. I respect his dad and if I were political I would respect some of Rant Paul's ideas, but not all of them.
So, you and Trump both switched parties, is he your hero and that's why you switched?
Rob Roy
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If you must vote, that's probably the lesser evil. Thanks for considering a lesser evil.
Rob Roy
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That's like turning up the music so he won't have to hear the crackling fire of his own ideas going up in flames as he pours gasoline on them with his holding two opposing beliefs at once.
Thank you for the info though.
Rob Roy
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That makes a lot of sense.
The MOST (and best) local control is when the peaceful individual self determines.
xtsho
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I have the same grievances with the Democratic party that I do with the Republican party. They're both corrupt entities acting as gatekeepers. They choose who the people get to vote for. If you don't follow their rules and kiss their asses then they primary you and put someone in your place. Screw them. They have too much power over the process. That power needs to be taken away and given back to the people.
It goes back years. When Barack Obama started his Presidential run the Democratic party was 100% behind Hillary Clinton. It did everything it could to make her the Presidential nominee. They stayed with Clinton until they couldn't because the people had chosen Obama. It wasn't Clintons turn it was the people's choice not the Democratic Party's decision. People like the Clintons should never have the control they had over a political party. Donna Brazile and all the others running the Democratic party were in full collusion to push Clinton on the voters again and they did in 2016. It's Clinton's turn so they used their apparatus to squash everyone else like they were stepping on cockroaches. It was sickening to watch and we know the outcome of that. They pushed an unwinnable candidate with connections on the voters and lost the election. Idiots all of them.
We also need Rank Choice voting nationwide. Both parties are against it because it takes away their power and gives it to the people. It makes it possible for the little guy/gal to run and actually have a chance against the big money that buys elections.
I fail to see how anyone can say anything bad about a politician that leaves either of the two parties. It a win for our Democracy to have people claim their independence from either of the parties. I hope to see many more from both sides giving the current political machine that's in control the middle finger.
xtsho
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We can have as many parties as we want. Unfortunately two have taken over the process and both are corrupt. If people leave those two parties then they will cease to exist or at least lose some of the power that they shouldn't have anyway. Our Democracy will will survive and it will only be better.
We should have more choices and not just be stuck with the choices that two political parties give us. Just look at 2016. Two terrible candidates who we were given because they had connections and money. That's not a Democracy. That's a travesty. Time for it to end.
PopAndSonGrows
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You're a reformed former Republican, Suds??? So's my dad. I applaud him for not blindly following his Party, as he did all thru the 80s and 90s. He simply cannot tolerate this cultist attitude their Party has adopted.The irony of a guy rocking an ape avatar claiming others are racist
Since I walked away from the Republican Party and joined the evil democrats
Does that mean the beliefs I had forty years ago are the ones I still have today ?
Because that seems to be the basis of your argument
Granted I’m not black but I know racist when I see them and Rant Paul and the GOP of today has gone full blown racist
I have no respect for a party going backwards toward civil war
I guess it’s the American in me
I knew I liked you
As far as Synema goes; she's pandering for future votes, nothing more. A straight-up "fair weather" politician, she's putting on her Independent jersey and rooting for the "winning" team in her state.
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Roger A. Shrubber
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i would welcome a third and even a fourth party, if they were well organized and had even a remote chance of winning and making a difference. until i see a well organized independent party, i don't even have the time to pay attention to independents, unless they REALLY have something to say.
i'd vote for an independent for president, or any other position, IF they have a good, workable agenda to present, but so far...
Roger A. Shrubber
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democrats will run whoever they want to, and they might lose, but sinema is guaranteed to lose...all she has done is make it a gamble in the future whether her district will remain blue, or turn red, because it'll never turn independent
HGCC
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The democrats don't run a candidate. Normally it's just the republican, I prefer the no laws folks to the conservative laws folks.
Roger A. Shrubber
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yeah, we need more self centered narcissists who leave the party when they don't get everything they want...
how about trying to fix what we have instead of trying to destroy everything and start from scratch?...
now tell me how it HAS to be destroyed, to save it....i'm waiting....
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Roger A. Shrubber
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IF she wins in 24...that is a fucking monstrously HUGE IF
because the democrats will run a strong, well funded, literate opponent against her, and the republicans will smell blood in the water, and run someone who will appeal to all the people the democratic candidate will not appeal to...they'll both be better funded than sinema can possibly be, they'll bury her in ad time, in press releases, in door to door canvassing...they'll bury her alive, and never send flowers.
Roger A. Shrubber
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that would be awesome, two traitors to the party ousted ...it would make us go back to tie breaking with the VP, but i can live with that to get them both out of politics...which is what will happen to both of them, especially manchin, who spent the last two years alienating his own voter base....I hope he does.
Calls build for Manchin to follow Sinema in leaving Democratic Party
Many social media users posted about the West Virginia senator after news broke that Arizona Senator Kyrsten Sinema is registering as an independent.www.newsweek.com
SCOOP: Manchin tells associates he's considering leaving the Democratic Party and has an exit plan
He could pull the trigger if he doesn't get his way on the Build Back Better bill.www.motherjones.com
Roger A. Shrubber
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it is her choice, and people pay attention to those choices. she's fucking doomed...this will be her last term as a senator, she'll get some speaking engagements after this, and then slowly fade into the obscurity she deserves...she'll probably run a moderately successful company of some kind, but she's done as a politician.
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