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DIY-HP-LED

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This thread is about Hunter Biden remember? Have a look and think of the fools who fell for his hoax, same ones who said "hang her" at Trump rallies, but are silent on the top-secret documents. Same fucking idiots who stormed the capitol and fucked themselves for a NFT hustler and believed the big lie because they wanted to. They are racists or idiots, probably both though and many are just fucking nuts, all are deeply flawed people.

Dupes and suckers is what they really are, those who allowed their hate and fear to cause a fool like Trump to own them, they saw what they wanted in him and ignored the bad, or reveled in it, like teenage girls in a love crush. When they didn't like the election results they first switched from foxnews to some who would continue to lie to them and then by desperate means tried to change the results or not make them count at all, Trump was not alone in his crimes. The law like covid treats them all the same, whether they were victims of lies or victimizers, or a bit of both.


Let's talk about House Republicans wanting referrals
 

DIY-HP-LED

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This is before Elon took over and fucked it up, Elon is lying, again.


Twitter's algorithm favours right-leaning politics, research finds

Twitter amplifies tweets from right-leaning political parties and news outlets more than from the left, its own research suggests.

The social-media giant said it made the discovery while exploring how its algorithm recommends political content to users.

But it admitted it did not know why, saying that was a "more difficult question to answer".

Twitter has previously faced claims of anti-conservative bias on its platform.

Twitter's study examined tweets from political parties and users sharing content from news outlets in seven countries around the world: Canada, France, Germany, Japan, Spain, the UK, and the US.

It analysed millions of tweets sent between 1 April and 15 August 2020.

Researchers then used the data to see which tweets were being amplified more on an algorithmically ordered feed compared with a reverse-chronological feed, both of which users have an option of using.

They found that mainstream parties and outlets on the political right enjoyed higher levels of "algorithmic amplification" compared with their counterparts on the left.

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Rumman Chowdhury, director of Twitter's Meta (machine-learning, ethics, transparency, and accountability) team, said the company's next step was to find out the reason behind the phenomenon.

"In six out of seven countries, tweets posted by political-right elected officials are algorithmically amplified more than the political left. Right-leaning news outlets... see greater amplification compared to left-leaning," she said.

"Establishing why these observed patterns occur is a significantly more difficult question to answer and something Meta will examine."

Researchers noted that the difference in amplification could be due to the "differing strategies" used by political parties to reach audiences on the platform.

They also said the findings did not suggest that its algorithms pushed "extreme ideologies more than mainstream political voices" - another common concern expressed by Twitter's critics.

This is not the first time Twitter has highlighted apparent bias in its algorithm.

In April, the platform revealed that it was conducting a study to determine whether its algorithms contributed to "unintentional harms".

In May, the company revealed that its automatic cropping of images had underlying issues that favoured white individuals over black people, and women over men.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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was waiting on this, i'll sign up asap just to fuck muck
https://techcrunch.com/2022/12/16/spill-twitter-alternative/
There are a few popping up now or getting noticed because people are looking, especially journalists, who now have a serious hard on for Elon, reinstated or not. The lesson of Putin and dependency on fascist assholes has not been lost on them, or the Europeans. They cannot allow someone like Elon to have any power over them whatsoever and the hunt for alternatives is on, mastodon is too complicated for most, keep it simple and accessible. They might change the architecture of Mastodon however to met demand and complaints or a couple of smart young people will get noticed and lucky. The news will gradually migrate from Twitter to other social media platforms and the celebs, athletes and eyeballs will follow.

Elon displayed moral failings and people forgive mistakes much more readily than a moral failure. You don't easily forgive those who steal from you, or at least it is difficult to trust them again. Elon destroyed his image and that of Twitter, it is so bad it has damaged his Tesla stock value and lowered his net worth, but stupidity always costs money and can sometimes cost your life.
 

Hotrod2

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let me sum it up and see if i'm right: twitter is a private company. and they can censor any posts or members they want to. and your bell cow, matt taibbi, is a conservative like you who whines like you about what twitter censored.

and the laptop was the crux of the first issue/version of the twitter files.
The whole issue, as I see it; is how the government was involved in directing Twitter as to what was appropriate or not appropriate. Regardless of the FBI or any alphabet police is reasoning the government should never be involved in suppressing free speech.
 

Hotrod2

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This thread is about Hunter Biden remember? Have a look and think of the fools who fell for his hoax, same ones who said "hang her" at Trump rallies, but are silent on the top-secret documents. Same fucking idiots who stormed the capitol and fucked themselves for a NFT hustler and believed the big lie because they wanted to. They are racists or idiots, probably both though and many are just fucking nuts, all are deeply flawed people.

Dupes and suckers is what they really are, those who allowed their hate and fear to cause a fool like Trump to own them, they saw what they wanted in him and ignored the bad, or reveled in it, like teenage girls in a love crush. When they didn't like the election results they first switched from foxnews to some who would continue to lie to them and then by desperate means tried to change the results or not make them count at all, Trump was not alone in his crimes. The law like covid treats them all the same, whether they were victims of lies or victimizers, or a bit of both.


Let's talk about House Republicans wanting referrals
This threat is not about 100 Biden. Whether he was using an example of the FBI suppressing free speech. There have since been more examples made and more links between the FBI and Twitter and the influence FBI had upon Twitter. Do you really think the federal government should play any role in suppressing free speech?
 

Hotrod2

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This threat is not about 100 Biden. Whether he was using an example of the FBI suppressing free speech. There have since been more examples made and more links between the FBI and Twitter and the influence FBI had upon Twitter. Do you really think the federal government should play any role in suppressing free speech?
Hunter not 100 sorry using talk to text
 

DIY-HP-LED

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This threat is not about 100 Biden. Whether he was using an example of the FBI suppressing free speech. There have since been more examples made and more links between the FBI and Twitter and the influence FBI had upon Twitter. Do you really think the federal government should play any role in suppressing free speech?
What do you mean by "free speech", hate speech is not free speech, free speech is about ideas and facts, not lies and disinformation. All social media companies want to operate internationally, some might start in America, but they all end up global. Increasingly they are being subjected to international regulations by other countries, the EU and the UN, the 1st amendment is the least of their worries. Things have moved on in the realm of free speech since 1785, other countries have it too and the concept has evolved in other liberal democracies that are not constitutionally frozen in time and politically unable to adapt. So when we speak of free speech, we have to do it outside of a purely American context and the limitations imposed by the 1st amendment as Elon recently found out by banning journalists.

Aside from that there is the market place and places like the parlor have no ad revenue and twitter is headed that way. It already had a rightwing bias before Elon took over according to a recent study I posted to this thread and it is attracting assholes who will drive ad revenue away. It will end up like the republican party, Trump drove out the remaining decent people and before that Obama filled it with racists, now only scum is left.
 

Hotrod2

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What do you mean by "free speech", hate speech is not free speech, free speech is about ideas and facts, not lies and disinformation. All social media companies want to operate internationally, some might start in America, but they all end up global. Increasingly they are being subjected to international regulations by other countries, the EU and the UN, the 1st amendment is the least of their worries. Things have moved on in the realm of free speech since 1785, other countries have it too and the concept has evolved in other liberal democracies that are not constitutionally frozen in time and politically unable to adapt. So when we speak of free speech, we have to do it outside of a purely American context and the limitations imposed by the 1st amendment as Elon recently found out by banning journalists.

Aside from that there is the market place and places like the parlor have no ad revenue and twitter is headed that way. It already had a rightwing bias before Elon took over according to a recent study I posted to this thread and it is attracting assholes who will drive ad revenue away. It will end up like the republican party, Trump drove out the remaining decent people and before that Obama filled it with racists, now only scum is left.
Hate speech is Free Speech. The FBI did not try to censor hate speech. They most notably tried to suggest that Hunter Biden's laptop was hacked material. And of course of doing so the New York Post reporting on the subject matter was pretty much silenced in the realm of Twitter. I'm not interested in a government or a country that tells me what I can and cannot say. If I wanted a country like that to live in and I would move to North Korea,Iran, Afghanistan or any other country where the government has taken people's freedoms of speech away because they didn't like what was being said.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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The whole issue, as I see it; is how the government was involved in directing Twitter as to what was appropriate or not appropriate. Regardless of the FBI or any alphabet police is reasoning the government should never be involved in suppressing free speech.
you see it that way...i see it as this wasn't the government, it was the Biden campaign, and they didn't suppress anything, they asked twitter to enforce their already existing policies.
this is another nothing burger republican masturbation fantasy, are we still really talking about it? republicans really have NOTHING else? :(
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Hate speech is Free Speech. The FBI did not try to censor hate speech. They most notably tried to suggest that Hunter Biden's laptop was hacked material. And of course of doing so the New York Post reporting on the subject matter was pretty much silenced in the realm of Twitter. I'm not interested in a government or a country that tells me what I can and cannot say. If I wanted a country like that to live in and I would move to North Korea,Iran, Afghanistan or any other country where the government has taken people's freedoms of speech away because they didn't like what was being said.
it doesn't matter whether or not the laptop was hacked, the chain of possession was broken, badly. there is no way to confirm what has been added, deleted, or altered during the time it was unaccounted for. no criminal investigation would be able to use such an item, it would be useless to establish anything at that point.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Hate speech is Free Speech. The FBI did not try to censor hate speech. They most notably tried to suggest that Hunter Biden's laptop was hacked material. And of course of doing so the New York Post reporting on the subject matter was pretty much silenced in the realm of Twitter. I'm not interested in a government or a country that tells me what I can and cannot say. If I wanted a country like that to live in and I would move to North Korea,Iran, Afghanistan or any other country where the government has taken people's freedoms of speech away because they didn't like what was being said.
So you are upset you can't use the N word in public. Racism is dangerous these days, there are video cameras and people can lose their jobs or business, governments have nothing to do with it, technology and liberal democracy does though. What existed in the American south and still does was not freedom, it was terrorism and America was not a true democracy until the 1960s, what about their rights, like the right to vote or be free of fear? I can understand how the new reality has cramped some people's style.
What ideas do you feel are being constrained, or is it just name calling you are concerned about?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Hunter not 100 sorry using talk to text
The laptop in question is currently in the custody of the DOJ and it remains his property. When does the DOJ release the contents of such things? Never, so someone who claimed it was from Hunter's laptop is leaking it to the press. They are in legal trouble , that was stolen information. What if it was Trump's laptop? He sued to get top secret government documents back FFS. So if it were Donald's notebook, he would have it back by now and so perhaps should Hunter, if indeed it is his laptop. It is still evidence of nothing and the DOJ will not give it to the republican congress to fish through. The fact that they haven't returned it and can't use it for evidence, raises the question of was it his in the first place. Russians could have hacked his actual computer and planted it on the one the FBI has, who knows and all the contents are suspect and contaminated by the wingnuts who turned it over to the FBI and allegedly copied the information from it. He is a private citizen, they have nothing, but want to waste time and money on this political show. It would be no more reliable than Russia turning over Hillary's emails, like the traitor Trump publicly asked them to do, but some people just ignored that and a lot of other treason and blatant lawlessness too. They had other priorities and motivations, patriotism wasn't one of them, but hate was.
 

Hotrod2

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The laptop in question is currently in the custody of the DOJ and it remains his property. When does the DOJ release the contents of such things? Never, so someone who claimed it was from Hunter's laptop is leaking it to the press. They are in legal trouble , that was stolen information. What if it was Trump's laptop? He sued to get top secret government documents back FFS. So if it were Donald's notebook, he would have it back by now and so perhaps should Hunter, if indeed it is his laptop. It is still evidence of nothing and the DOJ will not give it to the republican congress to fish through. The fact that they haven't returned it and can't use it for evidence, raises the question of was it his in the first place. Russians could have hacked his actual computer and planted it on the one the FBI has, who knows and all the contents are suspect and contaminated by the wingnuts who turned it over to the FBI and allegedly copied the information from it. He is a private citizen, they have nothing, but want to waste time and money on this political show. It would be no more reliable than Russia turning over Hillary's emails, like the traitor Trump publicly asked them to do, but some people just ignored that and a lot of other treason and blatant lawlessness too. They had other priorities and motivations, patriotism wasn't one of them, but hate was.
Hunter Biden abandoned his laptop. I wonder what country you are even from. You appear to be just fine with government intervention into free speech.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Hunter Biden abandoned his laptop. I wonder what country you are even from. You appear to be just fine with government intervention into free speech.
I'm from Canada and we are according to international ratings the second most free country in the world, 1st place being tied by 3 Scandinavian countries. Social media companies who count are international operations and must comply across multiple jurisdictions where some folks are more civilized than others and where liberal democracy operates better with actual majority rule.
 
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